Neglect or not?

[R2B2]

im convinced they would.

Fair comment. What do you think their motive or reasons could be Keith, to be so convinced?

You might have guessed that I have a deep distrust for anything the papers write!!

My thoughts on this case differ from most posters here, not because I'm looking to argue with or disagree with others for the sake of it, but because I have tried to look at all the things the papers are not pointing out or saying.

Subsequently, I just see another story in there, other possibilities, and some of those alternative possibilities seem to make more sense to me than most, if not all, of the shite the papers are pumping out.

I think there are a lot of things that suggest the McCanns have nothing to do with it, the main one being I can't imagine why on earth somebody in their obviously privileged position would want to be involved in anything so awful, but I accept that I could be completely wrong and the McCanns hatched a plot while over dinner one night with their friends!

I just don't see very much that supports them doing it :dunno: but am more than willing to be proved wrong. For Maddy's sake, I hope I'm not.

 

[uncle shrek]

I agree with you Rob. They were wrong, VERY wrong to leave them alone, and should be taken to task for that. I don't like them or the way they handle themselves in public with their other children, but that doesn't make them murderers. But I can't believe that they and their friends could hatch and cover up a murder. Too far fetched.


Maybe somewhere in between the speculation and what we KNOW lays the truth.

 

[R2B2]

Just after midnight and Gerry is made an arguido too.

 

[D.S.]

You might have guessed that I have a deep distrust for anything the papers write!!

I couldn't agree with you more, but then why read them?
I stopped years ago.

 

[R2B2]

Me too....!

 

[Gforceuk]

Somehow i think that if it was a portuguese couple who's child was missing in the Uk that you would all be baying for their blood at this particular moment.

its seems that some are blind to what they may have done just becuase they are british and have the jobs that they have....

or maybe if they were chavscum from some dump in the uk you would all be changing your tune...

 

[Gforceuk]

According to sources who spoke to a very reputable national paper , the equivalent of say the times in the uk.

That gerry mccann admitted to druging the children that night giving them a sedative ... probably so they didnt have to visit them constantly during their evening meal. And that the drugging may have gone wrong and gave the madeline too much.

so ... we will see.

 

[gypsy]

After re reading this thread and similar ones on other forums ,looking at the BBC Website and reading the reports on several newspapers and watching the reports on terrestrial and satellite television the only concrete conclusion i have come to is that her mum has got a nice arse.

 

[Centaur]

Me too Rob

Me too....!

Got fed up with reading unconfirmed bollocks so stopped buying!


























Question is; should I be reading all that goes on this site! p0pc0rn41

 

[R2B2]

Somehow i think that if it was a portuguese couple who's child was missing in the Uk that you would all be baying for their blood at this particular moment.

Based on what? On the information coming from the papers?

Lol, thank you Keith. That's precisely the point I've been making!!

 

[R2B2]

According to sources who spoke to a very reputable national paper....

That gerry mccann admitted to druging the children that night giving them a sedative ...

Sources? What sources?

The McCanns have stated they have never administered sedatives of any type to any their children, at any stage of their lives. So I wonder where the "reputable" paper got this from

 

[Gforceuk]

Sources? What sources?

The McCanns have stated they have never administered sedatives of any type to any their children, at any stage of their lives. So I wonder where the "reputable" paper got this from

the paper in question apparently has never reported anything that hasnt been from police sources ...

as i said.

we will see.

and as i said...

Somehow i think that if it was a portuguese couple who's child was missing in the Uk that you would all be baying for their blood at this particular moment.

 

[R2B2]

Sorry Keith, this is a ludicrous story!! Newspapers doing what they do best - in the lack of any real information, hype it up and attribute it to unnamed "sources"... and it's proved to be working too!!

Lets be honest here - if the police had any evidence that the McCanns drugged their kids, they would have been arrested ages ago!

 

[Gforceuk]

i also said we would have to wait and see.



i still think they are as guilty as hell..

 

[R2B2]

It's now emerged from family back home that the McCanns informed the PJ that they were poss going home in the near future. So it's looking like the PJ have been provoked into a knee-jerk reaction to prevent them leaving. I don't think this is doing much for the credibility of the PJ, which was already a bit Clouseau 'esque in the first place.

One fact that is also emerging from this fresh media attention is the overwhelming consistency from everybody who knows the McCanns, both here and in Portugal, regarding their devotion to Madeleine prior to this happening. It's just another little snippet that would appear to support the notion that they would not want to harm her.

Looking at the things that are publicly known to date makes this move by the PJ seem bizarre, to say the least.... unless they have some significant piece of evidence that they are hiding, (from their greatest alleged ally in all this - the press?) but if so they would have surely arrested them :dunno:

 

[Gforceuk]

It's now emerged from family back home that the McCanns informed the PJ that they were poss going home in the near future. So it's looking like the PJ have been provoked into a knee-jerk reaction to prevent them leaving. I don't think this is doing much for the credibility of the PJ, which was already a bit Clouseau 'esque in the first place.

One fact that is also emerging from this fresh media attention is the overwhelming consistency from everybody who knows the McCanns, both here and in Portugal, regarding their devotion to Madeleine prior to this happening. It's just another little snippet that would appear to support the notion that they would not want to harm her.

Looking at the things that are publicly known to date makes this move by the PJ seem bizarre, to say the least.... unless they have some significant piece of evidence that they are hiding, (from their greatest alleged ally in all this - the press?) but if so they would have surely arrested them :dunno:

Clearly they would not want to harm her if they are to be charged with 'accidental killing' ...

as for the mccann fanclub.. they are bound to say anything and paint them in the best light... as many others have done for other killers in the past.

we will have to sit it out... even if they are charged and convicted there are going to be the hardcore claiming its a travesty and injustice... despite the findings.

 

[Duck n Dive]

Hmmm......., perhaps it's time for a "sense check" here.....

1. Papers wish to sell - they do this by encouraging people to read!!!

2. Papers are not interested in provable facts - only selling..

3. Stories that run & run with twists & changes .... sell papers....

4. Papers "take a side" to keep the story going and to .... sell more papers!!



So now put yourself as a "paper seller" on this story ........ and remember you don't need a provable fact to print something that will start folks talking about it and want to know more.... the only "sort of rule" is that you don't make it up entirely .... that means someone else makes it up and tells you then you can report it !!!! ........ the other way is to take some facts & weave a story which could fit them and then "speculate"....


Wouldn't it "sell" well if kid(s) were involved, maybe the odd star or high profile person, foreigner's being incompetent is always a good one, the good 'ole UK Bobbys/experts having to help Johnny foreigner is even better, the good guys might be bad guys after all etc.... etc... etc.....


Do you actually believe that journalist/editors sit down on a Monday morning and say .. well now what's happening in the world that we've found out about ....... I'd suggest that the meeting weeks/months ago mapped out what they wanted to say/how they planned to get the story to run etc.. the journo's are then sent out to find the info that will let them print the story .....

OK on a "news" story like this there are "factual" events that can trigger something ... the initial missing girl, the naming or arrest of a suspect .... but apart from that what other "substance" is there in anything that's been printed???


If there's anyone out there who is/has been a journo or knows one I'm sure they'll corroborate that these stories are not just left to happenstace once they start................


Of course it's a "non breaking news story" then everything is carefully planned way, way, way in advance.....



So ......... facts in this case are:

1. Missing kid, no body.
2. One person questioned at an early stage but released.
3. Parents recently questioned further but released.


I desperately hope that the kid is eventually found alive and well. The rest of the specualtion can go hang itself as it does nothing to help her.

 

[Samster]

I've been looking into the results of the blood samples that came back from the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham. It looks like the police have got some pretty damning evidence against the McCanns. Have read this tonight:

The cops are adamant that they've got firm DNA evidence that the body of Madeleine was in the boot of the family's hire car five weeks after she disappeared.

They are saying that, "The evidence suggests very strongly that it was not that her DNA had been transferred from clothing or from a cuddly toy.

"The allegation is that the DNA shows a full match of 99%. According to police, it shows the presence of Madeleine's body in the boot of the family's hire car five weeks after she disappeared."

The samples of blood sent to the Forensic Science Service in Birmingham carried three matches of Madeleine's DNA.

Two were partial matches that came from the car and the windowsill of the family's holiday apartment.

The third was the full match from the boot of the car.

If all of the above is true, then what the hell went on? Did Kate kill Madeleine and shout, 'abduction'? In that case, Gerry's been covering for her and that's why his body language show's such strong signs that he's lying..................

 

[R2B2]

Been following this too Sam.

The one thing that sinks this theory is that the McCanns may not be the only ones to hire that same car during the five weeks... :dunno:

 

[ianrobbo1]

one thing that puts someone else in the frame as far as the body in the boot theory goes, is that the McCanns have been followed "almost" non stop since this kicked off!! I dont belive they had time to go and pick up the hidden body 5 weeks after, and how did they find somewhere to keep it during that time,?? this would lead me to think a "local" must be involved, on his/her own with or without the parents input!! :dunno: and "our" police insistance that it is "direct" sample dna,as opposed to trace, seems to confirm the theory that the little girl is dead!! :dunno: