AVON'S crap or not

[Wolfie]

Pete 8.5mm spacer???

does the nut use all it thread or is the bolt 3/4 of the nut??

have you dropped the forks as well???

 

[Supabird1100]

have you dropped the forks as well???

I think Pete has Andy.....in the river, and fitted SP1 forks instead !!!! :} :}

 

[Wolfie]

bolox forgot that!!!

feck feck feck


before the transplant pete did you drop the forks as well.

 

[Punchy]

Hmmm interesting thread...
so do I fit Avon SM Mk11's, Roadrunners or TT100's on my Norton Atlas?

Roy

 

[D.S.]

Blame the trees Andy.....blame the trees !!!!! :}

Go for a poll Skip.......let the Gentleman decide !!!!! :bow:

Don't blame the tree, blame those fekin Early Learning Centre wooden brakes on his superblackbarge :}

 

[D.S.]

Hmmm interesting thread...
so do I fit Avon SM Mk11's, Roadrunners or TT100's on my Norton Atlas?

Roy

what a selection :} Can't ya get slicks then? :}

 

[Punchy]

what a selection :} Can't ya get slicks then? :}

Dont think they do slicks in 19" WM3 sizes....

Thing is from a street cred viewpoint I can get to the tread edge on the SM Mk11 just wheeling it out of the garage whereas the TT100's I've actually got to ride the fecker.

 

[skippy]

Hmmm interesting thread...
so do I fit Avon SM Mk11's, Roadrunners or TT100's on my Norton Atlas?

Roy

Gotta be Roadrunners m8 .............oh how I miss the rectangular profile after only 1500 miles and the resultant knife edge transition from upright to engine cases after the desperate herculean wrestle with the handlebars at full opposite lock ....................memories :h

 

[Punchy]

Gotta be Roadrunners m8 .............oh how I miss the rectangular profile after only 1500 miles and the resultant knife edge transition from upright to engine cases after the desperate herculean wrestle with the handlebars at full opposite lock ....................memories :h

Did you ever try the Avon SM Mk 11's? The front wasnt too bad but the rear... still have one in the garage... I will try and post a pic in the next couple of days.. you would swear it was off a sidecar unit.

Spoilt for choice the lads nowadays....
Roy

 

[skippy]

Did you ever try the Avon SM Mk 11's? The front wasnt too bad but the rear... still have one in the garage... I will try and post a pic in the next couple of days.. you would swear it was off a sidecar unit.

Spoilt for choice the lads nowadays....
Roy

Had a pair on my thunderbird m8 and these peeps complain about the odd slide in the wet

 

[Punchy]

Had a pair on my thunderbird m8 and these peeps complain about the odd slide in the wet

As in Meriden Thunderbird?

Must admit the Skid Master Mk11's were very predictable they slid in the wet... come to think of it they let go in the fookin dry as well. Many a time I've had to kick the bike upright after an Avon moment.

Roy

 

[skippy]

As in Meriden Thunderbird?

Must admit the Skid Master Mk11's were very predictable they slid in the wet... come to think of it they let go in the fookin dry as well. Many a time I've had to kick the bike upright after an Avon moment.

Roy

It was around 1950 ish model had been chopped leaked oil like a seive handled like a pig and vibrated the fillings out of my teeth right nasty peice of work ...........oh and crap tyres :}

 

[davet]

Hmmm interesting thread...
so do I fit Avon SM Mk11's, Roadrunners or TT100's on my Norton Atlas?

Roy

Avon road runners now theres a top tyre :bow:

 

[reefer]

what more proof do you need?

i myself have gone the avon route and have clocked up some 600 odd miles during my strict training for the next seasons ride outs :bow:

i can only speak for myself about the avons..surfice to say i have been transformed from a shit rider into a almost higher than god like rider now due to the avons
i welcome the thought of heavy rain downpours on every long distance ride out challenge i undertake now, knowing that full bore in first gear at about 7k revs the rubber can handle anything..lean angles further than 45 degrees are well withing my scope and i now laugh in the face of shiny man hole covers knowing the tyre will not budge at these lean angles/weather condictions
avon even add litle knobly bits on the tyres at the edges..well past any human possible lean angles that seem to warn you that another fraction over and your taking the bend on the rims
so when the other bikers point and say "hes still got his knobbles" i can have a little chuckle to myself as inside i know how foolish they are not knowing i have the new "avon" impossible to wear out knobbles on the edges of the tyres
i think of it as a reject rubic cube, i myself knowing it is inpossible to remove them no matter how much you may try!
and in my book..any tyre that can transport a chinky takeaway from deepest christchurch to london via just a standard unmodified tank bag, arriving with the said grub NOT EVEN needing a quick blast of the nuker before consumption has gotta be worth is weight in errrr....house special mixed meat in yellow bean sauce :blush:
case closed :bow:
1 day until the new pussy magnet pick up %$fan :bow: :bow:

 

[blumeeni]

pete,as mentioned in my first post of this thread,i did have a couple of minor twitches but could have been through road conditions etc.as blumeeni mentioned,these were at very moderate lean angles with very restrictive throttle use coming out of them[bends].on one particular hairpin where i experienced one,a mate of mine and pete's on an hayabusa suffered an even bigger slide and he's running BT56's,which apparently are the standard fitments out of the factory,now does that mean that both sets of tyres are crap :dunno: or that myself and our mate are crap.....well possibly,or that on that particular bend the road surface was shite....probably.i will personally reserve judgement until i have been out on them in wet weather a few more times,as to be honest,with my limited experience riding,will leave it to those
with far more experience to sort it out.


stan

I met up with Gary busa yesterday (pissing down again) he'd not had any problems with the 56's in the wet until his slid on that hairpin.
It's a twat of a bend and so slippery even in the summer on a dry warm day.
I think you can rule that particular bend out as I think it was more a case of him not reading the road and conditions.
He had no problems on the other wet surface's although I did on the avon's I could feel them moving about and new any more lean would produce a slide.

Stan you've had a few different sets of tyres on your bird,and been out on them in the wet I bet you've never been so scared of leaning the bike over in the wet as you are with the Avon's.
You say you only had minor twitches.Thing is these then made you back right off and very nervous in a bend so then you never had any really bad moments.
I wonder if it's possible to do a pole on here as some other sites do we may then get a better perspective of the problem.
How can so many peeps rate the wet weather ability yet others find the opposite.
It seems the only logical explanation is there's a rouge batch out there I hope this is the case as I really rate these tyres for everything except wet weather.
So admin how about that pole then.

 

[blumeeni]

It will have to be a feckin super strong magnet m8.

I thought the Avons were good until last night.

Read about it

http://www.bikersoracle.com/blackbird/forum/showthread.php?t=15319 :blush: :cry:

Lumpy you've lost it m8 in more than one way you need :h

 

[RHINO]

I met up with Gary busa yesterday (pissing down again) he'd not had any problems with the 56's in the wet until his slid on that hairpin.
It's a twat of a bend and so slippery even in the summer on a dry warm day.
I think you can rule that particular bend out as I think it was more a case of him not reading the road and conditions.
He had no problems on the other wet surface's although I did on the avon's I could feel them moving about and new any more lean would produce a slide.

Stan you've had a few different sets of tyres on your bird,and been out on them in the wet I bet you've never been so scared of leaning the bike over in the wet as you are with the Avon's.
You say you only had minor twitches.Thing is these then made you back right off and very nervous in a bend so then you never had any really bad moments.
I wonder if it's possible to do a pole on here as some other sites do we may then get a better perspective of the problem.
How can so many peeps rate the wet weather ability yet others find the opposite.
It seems the only logical explanation is there's a rouge batch out there I hope this is the case as I really rate these tyres for everything except wet weather.
So admin how about that pole then.

BLU, i've given up on this crowd.
The people fighting in their favour are either business men who sell them (NO LOYALTIES ) or Fat Bert who's never ridden on them and spends more time off the road and in fields than 2004 motoX champion.
Bert keeps jabbering on about me messing with my rear shock :dunno: The bike was set up correct and handled fine before the AVONS,, it was set up ok during and up until the morning after Bert BBQ when 'I' tinkered with it!!!!
Then i had it set up again 'by an expert' and its STILL SHIT!!!!!!!!!
BERT :f you know nothing about my set up or riding on AVONs.

BLU, just chuck them in the bin and go back to what you know,, let the salesmen flog a dead horse to the unsuspecting or the fair weather riders.

 

[RHINO]

BLU

Its guys like Lumpy & Fudge Boy who bring mockery upon a serious thread,, fook em,, i shall continue to slag the AVONs until i'm exhausted.
There is a pecking order and a servere amount of brown nosing goes on,, some people are too scared to voice their opinions in fear of being alienated by the "popular gods".

I think actually i shall send the tyres to one of the rags and see if one of their testers wants to give a verdict in black & white..

Why the fook are they so cheap???????????????????????
Come on,, a superb dry/wet tyre that lasts over 7k on a bike as powerfull and torquey as a BIRD for &140 per pair..........................get real.

 

[RHINO]

Please bare a few other things in mind, fuel detergent build op on the road, diesel on the road from weeks before (not visible), over banding, white lines, polished aggregate, horse shit, road kill, gravel etc, etc, all of which are harder to spot in the wet.

Forgive me for being a thick Northern twat Pete but are these things not on all roads,,,its called day to day road conditions NOT RACE TRACK.
We are saying about overall conditions.. I didn't do 200 miles last week riding on dead rabbits, cow shit and diesel.!

 

[birdinflight]

I'm sorry if I have missed something here

but did Pete not offer to have these tyres picked up and have them sent to Avon????? If you don't want Pete to test them, then tell him so.

If noone takes up this offer, how the hell are AVon supposed to find out if there is a problem with their tyres :dunno:

If it were our tyres, Derek would have them off the bike in a flash and off to the relevant person.............why???.............because he cares about his safety, my safety, other folks safety and his bike.

Its all very well whinging away here on this thread but it will do nothing to solve the problem.

So what, if some folk don't believe you??? If you believe in yourself and your judgement then do something about it.

Derek has had no problem with his tyres whatsoever in the wet, but he believes if you are having a problem with yours then you should do something about it. Not rant and rave about it to folk who have no idea or experience.

You were right to bring this to the attention of other members but its gone too far, folk are starting to doubt their tyres, should I buy Avons, should I not. It will do nothing to help Avon users confidence, and lack of confidence effects folks riding which inturn can cause accidents.

So with no actual testing or official word you have condemned these Avons models as crap.

Get off your soapbox and do something about it.