I'm not getting arsey, it was a polite invitation to come see for yourself as I couldn't be arsed getting into a pissing contest.
Obviously C.T's explanation wasn't clear enough either.
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I'm not getting arsey, it was a polite invitation to come see for yourself as I couldn't be arsed getting into a pissing contest.
Obviously C.T's explanation wasn't clear enough either.
I was going to let it be. Y'know, agree to disagree and all that. But your comment on CT's addition to the conversation just got my goat. :bang:
I wasn't aware that CT was the font of knowledge on all things theological.
But then again C.T.'s "explanation" has been lifted verbatim from a number of websites....The internet is one big rentaquote, if it suits your purpose. Doesn't mean it's the truth.
Ive got family who are Buddhists and consider it their religion, you've got friends, etc. who don't. End of.
If ever their was proof that religion is more trouble than it's worth then this thread is it.
Crazy Train
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Come on, give him back his Goat.
Or you may be accused of kidnap, if it's a young Goat.gr0n:
Or you may be accused of kidnap, if it's a young Goat.gr0n:
So now who's getting arsey, eh?
La la la, I'm not listening, Roooooxxxxxx-annnnnnnnnnnnne........
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Bodmin
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Taken from BuddhaNet (an "official" Buddhist website).
Is it a religion?
It is neither a religion in the sense in which that word is commonly understood, for it is not "a system of faith and worship owing any allegiance to a supernatural being."
Buddhism does not demand blind faith from its adherents. Here mere belief is dethroned and is substituted by confidence based on knowledge, which, in Pali, is known as saddha. The confidence placed by a follower on the Buddha is like that of a sick person in a noted physician, or a student in his teacher. A Buddhist seeks refuge in the Buddha because it was he who discovered the path of deliverance.
A Buddhist does not seek refuge in the Buddha with the hope that he will be saved by his (i.e. the Buddha's own) personal purification. The Buddha gives no such guarantee. It is not within the power of a Buddha to wash away the impurities of others. One could neither purify nor defile another. The Buddha, as teacher, instructs us, but we ourselves are directly responsible for our purification. Although a Buddhist seeks refuge in the Buddha, he does not make any self-surrender. Nor does a Buddhist sacrifice his freedom of thought by becoming a follower of the Buddha. He can exercise his own free will and develop his knowledge even to the extent of becoming a Buddha himself.
p0pc0rn41
Is it a religion?
It is neither a religion in the sense in which that word is commonly understood, for it is not "a system of faith and worship owing any allegiance to a supernatural being."
Buddhism does not demand blind faith from its adherents. Here mere belief is dethroned and is substituted by confidence based on knowledge, which, in Pali, is known as saddha. The confidence placed by a follower on the Buddha is like that of a sick person in a noted physician, or a student in his teacher. A Buddhist seeks refuge in the Buddha because it was he who discovered the path of deliverance.
A Buddhist does not seek refuge in the Buddha with the hope that he will be saved by his (i.e. the Buddha's own) personal purification. The Buddha gives no such guarantee. It is not within the power of a Buddha to wash away the impurities of others. One could neither purify nor defile another. The Buddha, as teacher, instructs us, but we ourselves are directly responsible for our purification. Although a Buddhist seeks refuge in the Buddha, he does not make any self-surrender. Nor does a Buddhist sacrifice his freedom of thought by becoming a follower of the Buddha. He can exercise his own free will and develop his knowledge even to the extent of becoming a Buddha himself.
p0pc0rn41
My Buddhists are bigger than yours....b0x1
noobie
Clueless in most things
It never was a religion as it has always been recognised as a teaching, more humanist than a faith. Then as it started to be adopted by some paricularly in the west, some declared it as a religion.
Should you argue wether it is a religion or a teaching? Thing is if your a true buddhist, you wouldn't be arguing with anyone :-0)
Should you argue wether it is a religion or a teaching? Thing is if your a true buddhist, you wouldn't be arguing with anyone :-0)
Maybe they are but they're not as hard as my chipmunks b0x1
ParticulY if you look at the first post. It was soon hijacked as a soapbox to spout off about Moslems.
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Have you been drinking, Andrew?
Crazy Train
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Which I suspect may have been your intention Mr Bee.
Damn, I'd forgotten about the chipmunks....fl4g71
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Not at all. Your comment is quite objectionable.
Just expressing a genuine sentiment. What I forgot is that not everyone is open minded, or perhaps more accurately, does not have the willingness to be open minded to consider the sentiment expressed about a particular aspect of the Moslem faith.
I wonder whose fault that is. As long as them savages continue to try and force their will upon the rest of the world with threats of beheading for us infidels, mindless terrorism and their intolerable hypocrisy, can you blame people for not being able or willing to accept anything 'positive' about that disease they call a religion?
Why is there a mistrust of Moslems?
Because mostly they are insular & will not integrate.
The ones that can speak English choose not to even when in the company of English people.
They will not report when someone is radicallising or being radicallised in their mosque.
The problem lies with them & only they can change people's views of them.
Yes there are exceptions & it must be so frustrating for them.
How would you feel if you were a Christian & you entered a multi faith room & found all depictions/icons of your faith etc covered up because they offend the Moslems?
Because mostly they are insular & will not integrate.
The ones that can speak English choose not to even when in the company of English people.
They will not report when someone is radicallising or being radicallised in their mosque.
The problem lies with them & only they can change people's views of them.
Yes there are exceptions & it must be so frustrating for them.
How would you feel if you were a Christian & you entered a multi faith room & found all depictions/icons of your faith etc covered up because they offend the Moslems?
Exactly what I meant above when I wrote "...intolerable hypocrisy...". Rules for them and rules for everyone else. I can't think of anything else that gets further up my nose than that.
I remember in basic training Sunday Church parade consisted of 2 options - C of E or Catholic.
If you opted out of Church Parade then you were bundled in a room with everyone else who declined.
That meant an hour or so with a padre for a discussion on the varous faiths represented by those in the room. As the only C of Scotland rep (non practicing) I found myself in the company of Jews, Moslems, Sikhs, etc.
I don't recall any issues other than the usual digs between the lads from NI.
That was 1980 so what the feck has changed...? :dunno: