Sorry to the guyswho are job on here but..

[Capn]

If we all bought a white bike, helmet and yellow jacket, would this solve the problem or would the world simply run out of doughnuts?

man8um

 

[BlackIce]

People don`t like change, everything is changing for the worst because we remember how it was. young people don`t don`t see the difference as they have no previous reference, so all new police work differently to the old school police.

unfortunately, police rules are made with today and tomorrow in mind.

in order to go "PC" the police have to have silly euro minds, euro rules, euro targets etc etc


c7u8 me now

 

[hellraiser]

well said jaws, but watch it you might end up on a police hit list.lol
don't trust them. lots of coppers on hear aint there?

 

[Sulley]

People, people, people.....


If any of you think you can do a better job follow these simple steps.

Apply for the job,

Go through the selection process

Spend six months training, 18 months on probation,

Fill out I don't know how much paperwork, everytime you stop and speak to someone.

Now you'll all sit there and go, blah blah blah, stop whingineg, but hey that's what some here do.

The targets you all have a go at us for are NOT set by US, if I could I'd click my fingers, get officers out on the streets, get rid of PCSOs (replaceing them with more sworn officers) stop target orientated policing, try and reduce crime...


...But then I'm a PC, I know fcuk all, I have targets set by the HOME OFFICE (a bunch of office wallahs, who wouldn't know what life was like)


I can assure you that in your jobs, office workers, builders, truck drivers, pillow stuffers or whatever, you too will have targets, muppets working with you etc, but you aren't constantly in the public eye and not open for criticism for buying a sandwich whilst at work!

 

[morphgarth]

well said jaws, but watch it you might end up on a police hit list.lol
don't trust them. lots of coppers on hear aint there?

Yeah that's true and we're building files on all of you of course! We're silently and carefully infiltrating this network of criminal masterminds to ensure that the use of small number plates is eradicated for ever. c7u8

D&D, a well put and eloquent argument. The analogy around speed limits and health care is weak though as high cholestrol invariably kills the risk taker rather than their parents, kids or complete strangers.

Personally I do think that some speed limits have become so low that people fail to see the reason behind them and ignore them completely. They then ride/drive even faster than they would have if the speed limit had been more reasonable.

ps> I only do simplistic arguments at 6am!!

 

[chuffmeister]

People, people, people.....


If any of you think you can do a better job follow these simple steps.

Apply for the job,

Go through the selection process

Spend six months training, 18 months on probation,

Fill out I don't know how much paperwork, everytime you stop and speak to someone.

Now you'll all sit there and go, blah blah blah, stop whingineg, but hey that's what some here do.

The targets you all have a go at us for are NOT set by US, if I could I'd click my fingers, get officers out on the streets, get rid of PCSOs (replaceing them with more sworn officers) stop target orientated policing, try and reduce crime...


...But then I'm a PC, I know fcuk all, I have targets set by the HOME OFFICE (a bunch of office wallahs, who wouldn't know what life was like)


I can assure you that in your jobs, office workers, builders, truck drivers, pillow stuffers or whatever, you too will have targets, muppets working with you etc, but you aren't constantly in the public eye and not open for criticism for buying a sandwich whilst at work!

does that count as a bite ????d34l




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p0pc0rn41

 

[Sulley]

Nah.

I'm challenging people!!

In all honesty I don't give two hoots if people don't like what I do for a living. There's certain professions I couldn't do or can't stand.

I know that I do my job to the best of my abilities and I'm pretty sure the other coppers on here and the ones I know all do too.




Oh and I prefer being called PoPo, or 5-0!! It's much more plastic gansta blud! :-0)

 

[morphgarth]

It probably does but if you were in a job where you were attacked as an individual all the time you would probably bite from time to time.

I've been doing it long enough now to understand that (I think I've said it before) you can't please all of the people all of the time and you can't do right for doing wrong!! I'm happy to debate the why's and wherefores as long as it's (relatively) mature as this thread is.

I'm trying for serenity nowadays to keep my blood pressure down, all those donuts you see.:lick:

 

[chuffmeister]

Oh I understand - try being HM forces and having to get changed out of uniform everytime you leave unit. ( not that I love it or owt- but popping into town at lunch becomes a chore ) for fear of some immigrant or similar having a pop at ya b0x1b0x2g0nn3:shooter:

Now that does get a BITE. w;;v

 

[morphgarth]

Tried to PM you Sulley but you don't seem to accept them

 

[chuffmeister]

cos he's not a sponsor - gota be red/black to give or recieve d34l

 

[mick the knife]

for fear of some immigrant or similar having a pop at ya

Isn't there some law or other that they could be clubbed to death for treason or abusing the Queens uniform. After all this is England.s04pb0x6

 

[chuffmeister]

dont get me started mick - give me a load of ammo and a shooter and i could sort out some overcrowding issues for the government :bang:

 

[Demonbane]

Gary Garland, IPCC commissioner for the North East, said: "It is unclear at this stage whether the car's emergency warning equipment was activated. Ms Adamson was crossing the road with friends when the collision occurred. Following the collision there was an incident involving a member of the public at the scene which culminated in a police officer discharging a Taser stun gun. A 23-year-old man has been arrested."




"The driver got out and said 'It's my fault' because he was going to get lynched. Not one of the police helped her - not one of them checked her pulse. They just held people back and said keep calm. Everyone was shouting at the police to lock up the policeman who knocked Hayley down."

the 23 yr old who was tasered and arrested was the crash victims boyfriend

i can imagine how distraught and angry the man would be at his loved one getting mown down
its nice to know that the police in there infinite wisdom arrested him and not the murderer, who just so happened to be "one of them"

maybe im wrong here, but if that had been a "civilian car and driver" doing 100mph and driving at 100mph, and hit someone so hard to cause instant death and throw them 50ft across a road,

would THEY not have been arrested?

 

[morphgarth]

Demonbane,

A young girl has lost her life in tragic circumstances. None of us know the facts. This thread has been a light hearted one so far. I for one have no intention of debating a human tragedy of these proportions on this thread.

Not because I'm avoiding it, it just strikes me as bad taste and disrespectful. I'm not having a pop at you, it's just my view. I've dealt with these sort of incidents and I don't think it does any credit to anyone to use them as points scoring exercises.

 

[derek kelly]

but you aren't constantly in the public eye and not open for criticism for buying a sandwich whilst at work!

We are often criticised by the press & general public, we had a one day strike last year [the first one I have known in 28 years service] because every promise made to us by the Government since 1986 has been broken, we have not had a pay rise equivalent or above inflation for over 20 years, yet we are the ones criminalised for breaking a no strike agreement, we are pilloried for wearing our national flag tie pins, & we are lucky if we can buy a sandwich at work as our canteen is only open briefly during the morning & not at weekends or bank holidays. oh and if we dare go on strike again who will be called upon to man the landings? 'You' the Police will but will you stop & think "hang on a minute, these Prison Officers need our support just like we will need theirs when we are negotiating our next below inflation pay rise" ? no, you will all report for duty & think only of the extra money you are earning in overtime, & that my friend is why the elected governments shit on each & every one of us, because we are all too self absorbed to say "f*ck you we will do your bidding when you reward us properly"

 

[morphgarth]

Actually Derek I think you'll find that this dilemna is exercising a few minds in the Police. The issue is that we all swore allegiance to the Crown and we're a disciplined service. A bit like the fact that many in the armed forces probably don't agree with a number of the postings they get but they do it because that's what they're paid for.

I had to work in the fire dispute and took no pleasure from it at all. I also worked in the 1991 (I think?) prison officers dispute.

If the Police ever went on strike (I hope it never happens and don't think it would) then no doubt if the Army are told to maintain order they will just get on with it.

Interestingly the Armed forces were used in the fire strike and in previous prison disputes from memory. No-one seems to criticise them but they have the same obligations to the crown and the same criminal liability for refusal.

 

[morphgarth]

Anyway, off to watch Champions League now.

 

[R2B2]

A young girl has lost her life in tragic circumstances. None of us know the facts. This thread has been a light hearted one so far. I for one have no intention of debating a human tragedy of these proportions on this thread.

Not because I'm avoiding it, it just strikes me as bad taste and disrespectful.

You really are a dreamer aren't you? You sound just like the chief constable who was interviewed on the radio today effectively saying that as it's one of ours then we'll just deflect all questions and buy a bit of time while the dust settles. Fortunately, some local witnesses were a little more forthcoming and there is already a fairly clear picture in the public domain even allowing for the heat of the moment emotions.

I'm not saying it wasn't an accident BUT there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that this police driver is being treated differently than if he'd been a member of the public. We all know that if it had been a young teen driving that car then he would have been charged at the scene, or very soon afterwards, with one of the more serious charges.

Anytime you want to join us back on this planet we're all here waiting for you.

 

[plastic orange]

Actually Derek I think you'll find that this dilemna is exercising a few minds in the Police. The issue is that we all swore allegiance to the Crown and we're a disciplined service. A bit like the fact that many in the armed forces probably don't agree with a number of the postings they get but they do it because that's what they're paid for.

I had to work in the fire dispute and took no pleasure from it at all. I also worked in the 1991 (I think?) prison officers dispute.

If the Police ever went on strike (I hope it never happens and don't think it would) then no doubt if the Army are told to maintain order they will just get on with it.

Interestingly the Armed forces were used in the fire strike and in previous prison disputes from memory. No-one seems to criticise them but they have the same obligations to the crown and the same criminal liability for refusal.

I have been on strike twice in my 30 years in the Fire Service (retired 3 years ago), and both times have been shafted big style by the government. Rest assured if the Police decide on this course of action, the Army will step in, and when you return to work will find your job will have changed for the worse.
However, it may well be a case of getting your own medicine, as the Police did us no favours back then (plenty overtime).

Pete