I aint going away shit face,
Morning hippy, I love the way you start with abuse. Classy dude, maaan.
If you come on here and denigrate a profession I've been involved with for 30 years you can expect me to object on the grounds that your experience is not very representative, substantiated or properly informed.
My experience may not be representative, I agree; I've stumbled across three, maybe four dozen teachers teachers over the years. In fairness, that probably isn't indicative of an entire profession but I can only piss with the dick I've got. Like I keep saying, I can only take as I find and I'm not tarring all with the same brush.
Listening to and reading the comments of some of your colleagues whingeing in the media does little to reverse my views though.
Anytime you want to show me how its done, go for it, always happy to learn. We work within the constraints of the law and the government (Ofsted), like to see you in front of 30 disaffected 16 year olds, please tell me how you are going to deal with the 'recalcitrant little shits' I'm all ears.
I'm hardly about to tell you how to teach. I could no more do that than you could show me better ways of doing my job in which, I would suggest, you would have no chance.
The problem element of these recalcitrant little shits is not an overnight phenomena, as you're probably only too well aware. This was going on in my day except then, there was only one twat and now there's probably 29, half of whom probably can't speak English.
This, in my view, stems from curtailing the rights of parents and teachers to deliver a well aimed slap when needed. Part of the solution may well be to bring back a clip around the ear or a stick across the arse. Physical violence? Hardly. Never did me or any of my mates any harm.
A further contributory, and more likely, factor is the non-existence of discipline at home and the breakdown (or further non-existence) of the family.
And before anyone fuckin' else starts, I'm NOT blaming marriage or relationship breakdown. What I am having a go at is something like 14 year old girls getting pregnant i.e. kids having kids. I'm referring to this "badge of honour" bullshit that seems prevalent in some sections of society, where it's deemed socially cool to father an illegitamate child then do a runner, thus leaving teenage girl to deal. I am NOT talking about the kid(s) of mum and dad who've separated after a marriage/relationship failure.
Ok, maybe the odd 14 year old girl might get unlucky after an (illegal) shag with a proper boyfriend but she may be very fortunate in that she has supportive parents - I'm not talking about these kids either.
'....they taught from experience' did they, what about the 'syllabii' your so fond of, you don't imagine we teach what we want do you, or even how we want.
Get real, hippy. Have I ever suggested that the curriculum isn't followed?
How did they teach about the first world war in your day?
You're being silly here, hippy. There were no WW I veterans teaching in my day!
from experience, what about Mendel's laws on inheritance, from experience,
The Austrian monk, Gregor Mendel was kicking around in the 19th century so I doubt he was teaching in my day either.
plate tectonics, from experience.
The theories of seafloor shifting were developed by the geoscientific community in the 50s and 60s, were they not, based on the older concepts of continental drift? I doubt those involved in those concepts would give that sort of profession up to be teachers. On that basis hippy, I would have to agree with you in that it's unlikely that this subject is taught on experience.
However, I didn't learn about that at school, so I'll have to leave that one with you maaan.
That said, my physics and chemistry teachers all had lab time prior to teaching so they taught from experience.
My language teachers had all spent at least one year working in the countries of their chosen languages. This was not just to speak the language but to learn it proper, with all the nuances and colloquialisms. Except my Welsh teachers of course. No need, English was their second language.
You might be suggesting that teachers should spend time in industry, fair comment, some do,
You not think that might be a good idea? Minimum age for a teacher set at, for example, 35? Said teacher would then have had to have had previous alternative employment, outside an educational environment. Probably not a bad thing.
but why would you leave a better paid profession to work in teaching,
Maybe it's a "calling" like the priesthood or something? I wouldn't quit what I do to teach so you tell me, hippy.
were everybody lays the blame for societies ills at you feet, where there is often little on no support from parents, where you regularly get abused verbally, where you can't even hold onto a child to prevent them leaving you classroom because you want a word,
Ok, that has to be tough. You have my sympathy on these points and these points alone.
Again, I think you have to lay the blame at successive governments and governing bodies for that one. Left wing, liberal hippies emasculating the rights of parents and teachers and giving rights to kids.
and where people even slag you off on bike forums.
No one has slagged you off as an individual. Unless, of course, you count me calling you hippy, maaan.
Where governments change what you have to teach at the drop of a hat, wasting millions of pounds.
Tell me what exactly is so unique about the teaching profession here, maaan? Have you not been paying attention to the decimation of our armed forces recently? NHS, anyone?
Please do tell what you do, must be something really worth while and very hard work.
I'm a marine consultant/surveyor following 17 years at sea, an ex-ship's captain to be precise. I've been in shipping 24 years, all my working life. Actually, it is hard work puntuated by sometimes ridiculously long hours and extended periods overseas (I'm abroad as I write, have been almost five weeks). You know what though, I don't care. Happy the man who is paid for his hobbies.
Go ahead hippy, sneer away. But before you do, take a look around your home, maaan, and stop to consider just how many of your possesions arrived in the UK by sea. Your tv, dvd player, playstation, furniture, microwave, fridge, computer, mobile phone, sunglasses, three quarters of your wardrobe? Presumably, like most hippies, you're a vegetarian so that'll be a chunk of your mung beans too. Most certainly your bike and your car, never mind the fuel that powers them. Quite possibly, even your dope stash too.
Has it not occurred to you that teachers' situation is not unique? You think yours is the only sector of the workforce that is having their pensions mullered and wages frozen or cut? Apart from bankers and a few fortunate others, this is happening across the board.
Tell me hippy, what do you think would happen if every single worker who has had their salary frozen, wages cut and/or pension plundered dropped their bat and went on strike? It's happening across the board, hence the lack of sympathy.
What do think will happen next year when the interest rates go up and mortgages subsequently follow? Belts will have to be pulled tighter; no more corduroy jackets with leather patches on the sleeves for you, young man! Again, don't expect sympathy or support when this situation is facing the vast majority of us.
Any way must go now, got some books to mark 60% of
That was happened at the school of my niece and nephew before they left one and three years ago, respectively. Why would they make stuff like that up?
.... Love and peace man.