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Will it be A Russian Christmas?
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I have also been wondering about whether this is part of Putin’s plan….
https://www.superblackbird.co.uk/index.php?threads/it’s-back.85246/
This morning's news has been telegraphed for some time now 
They say history is doomed to repeat itself.... well I'm beginning to get an idea of what our grandparents and parents went through in the 30s.
Once again we've got a tyrannical dictactor going walkabout with his army in Eastern Europe, using military action to "reclaim" land that he believes is his by right.
Meanwhile the rest of Europe is war weary and in the throws of economic uncertainty and it is militarily and politically weakened.
I don't know about you, but my arse is getting twitchy.
Once again we've got a tyrannical dictactor going walkabout with his army in Eastern Europe, using military action to "reclaim" land that he believes is his by right.
Meanwhile the rest of Europe is war weary and in the throws of economic uncertainty and it is militarily and politically weakened.
I don't know about you, but my arse is getting twitchy.
Let’s hope NATO have been tuned into this thread for strategic and military advice….This morning's news has been telegraphed for some time now
Thinking about the similarities with the Nazis I suppose the current situation can be traced back to The Berlin Wall coming down and the break up of USSR.
This would be such a lovely planet if it weren’t for the human race.
Sadly I also suspect this may be the start of a significant balance of power shift.
The response from the West will be sanctions only and as Beaker previously pointed out These are basically ineffective.
The only western country with significant military strength is the US and I don't think they have the home support to intervene - although the "hate commies" might motivate!
The UK lacks the ability in resource terms. While UK forces are able to punch well above their weight there just isn't the volume of equipment and manpower to make a significant difference.
It's not like the previous European wide wars where conscription and turning manufacturing over to the war effort could produce results.
We no longer have the manufacturing capacity.
We don't even have enough aircraft/tanks/Artillery etc to put each existing service person to work.
This flexing by Putin simply demolishes the myth that NATO or the West has any effective response to either Russia or China.
The body blow now would be any action by China in its neck of the woods.
The response from the West will be sanctions only and as Beaker previously pointed out These are basically ineffective.
The only western country with significant military strength is the US and I don't think they have the home support to intervene - although the "hate commies" might motivate!
The UK lacks the ability in resource terms. While UK forces are able to punch well above their weight there just isn't the volume of equipment and manpower to make a significant difference.
It's not like the previous European wide wars where conscription and turning manufacturing over to the war effort could produce results.
We no longer have the manufacturing capacity.
We don't even have enough aircraft/tanks/Artillery etc to put each existing service person to work.
This flexing by Putin simply demolishes the myth that NATO or the West has any effective response to either Russia or China.
The body blow now would be any action by China in its neck of the woods.
Yep. Couldn't agree more. After the various poorly managed War Against Terror actions, the West hasn't the stomach for military intervention.
As for our Armed Forces.... well if they're run down any further then those few who are left will be on first name terms.
And on the subject of the equipment.... years of inept procurement decisions made by starry eyed politicians, hypnotised by hi-tech bling and convinced that small quantities of technological do-it-alls will win against vast numbers of basic, but capable tanks, aircraft and ships are now about to come how to roost with a vengeance.
I'll be looking forward to an MOD letter arriving any minute asking if I'd like to help the war effort by making parts for Typhoon aircraft in my shed.
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If only....
The problem with sanctions is that nobody benefits in the long term…..it turns into tit for tat and Russia holds a trump card with their oil and gas supplies. Japan was subject to massive sanctions in the 1930s and look what happened….
Flight radar only shows the stuff with transponders switched on, it's not a primary radar feed.
The global hawks that we are/have been able to see are deliberately shown.
There's plenty moving around!
Having said that, it still seems low key and targeted, nothing like for example the gulf war shock and awe.
The global hawks that we are/have been able to see are deliberately shown.
There's plenty moving around!
Having said that, it still seems low key and targeted, nothing like for example the gulf war shock and awe.
