• Welcome to the new B.I.R.D. Forum. Please be sure to read the "New Member / New Registered ? Please Read" thread in the Coffee Shop. This contains some important information. To become a full member ( £5.90 a year ) simply click on your user name near the top on the right I hope you enjoy the new site ................ Jaws ( John )

Stop and search

  • Thread starter malepmt
  • Start date

Jono

Super Sponsor
Read Only
The facts in the first post is the story according to plod they said they searched them because one of the boys tried to hide his bag from them the bag had his sandwhiches in so not much reason to hide it also they where stopped and searched in the boys own street he had only left the house ten minutes before the phone had never been reported stolen the boy was in cuffs thrown in a van then a cell because it was not registerd to him it took them over an hour to find out it had ever been stolen by contacting the last registerd keeper of the phone it had been taken from her bag in a club and she had never reported it stolen

Question is what grounds do they need to stop and search ? is it normal to cuff a 15 year old i have to say that looks and is about the size of your avrage 12 year old ? as it was never reported stolen by the owner how would cash converters or my friend ever know it was stolen so what crime was commited ?

And police wonder why teenagers get and attitude.... REALLY

They can be stopped and searched in any street.
The grounds for the stop & search will be recorded and a copy supplied if required d34l.
Cuffs....already covered, own protection as well as their's.
Thrown in the van?....or placed / seated. I know thrown sounds more dramatic.
Cuffs kept on in custody, again the reason will be recorded d34l.
The phone was stolen! That would be a good detection then, especially if it had been your phone that was recovered :rolleyes:.

And teenagers wonder why Police get an attitude.....REALLY.:-0)
 
M

morphgarth

Guest
You misread me Morph, I wasn't joking. Remember some of my friends are police officers and I have heard the stories. Contrary to what you may believe, I am not anti police. I just can't stand arsholes in uniform who get power crazy. Now, gizza kiss.

I didn't say you were joking Baz, only that you sounded funny!!!:-0)


Oh, here you go:k
 
M

malepmt

Guest
So bottom line a sandwhich is a bag is good enough reason to stop and search ?

What a fucked up country we live in
 
E

Elwood

Guest
Your certainly living up to your username man8um
 

rovinghawk

Registered User
I've had 15 year olds cause me more grief (i.e. voilent)
Are you from the West Country?

people get handcuffed for their own safety
I've always loved 'for your safety' as an excuse for something restrictive............

from the circumstances given IMHO the grounds for search were there
"He looked a bit shifty, guv!" Sounds reasonable to me; after all, honest people have nothing to fear so anyone objecting is automatically guilty.

Some cops can be arseholes
My point entirely.

RH
 
E

Elwood

Guest
Are you from the West Country?

I've always loved 'for your safety' as an excuse for something restrictive............

"He looked a bit shifty, guv!" Sounds reasonable to me; after all, honest people have nothing to fear so anyone objecting is automatically guilty.

My point entirely.

RH

I apologies, you obviously know far more about police work than I
 
Last edited by a moderator:
M

morphgarth

Guest
My nipper found my Downhill Mountain Bike that was stolen some time ago, locked up by Gosport Ferry. I couldn't get there so suggested he phoned the Police. They did actually come out but said there was nothing they could or would do even though we can prove it is my bike. They said even if they had cctv footage of a person taking it, without positive ID they still couldn't do anything. Proof that the bike was mine isn't good enough apparently.

So it seems one extreme to the other. My bike is stolen property, although the current owner may have bought it legitiamately from the thief, but it seems that this guy is okay when he unlocks MY bike and rides it home.

Lumpy, they have told you a load of rubbish mate. If it was stolen from you then it remains your property (unless the insurance paid out and it then becomes theirs). In short you cannot obtain good title to stolen property. In areas of dispute there provision under the Police Property Act for the goods to be seized and retained whilst ownership is established.

They are right to say that even with CCTV footage it is extremely difficult to convict for the original offence or handling. This does not, however, prevent the seizure and reinstatement of the property.

The bike was, is and will remain yours until you give up your rights to it!!! The first hour of advice is free..............................................:-0):-0)
 

Jono

Super Sponsor
Read Only
Lumpy,
Just a thought but it may have been a civilian operator who you spoke to. :rolleyes:
 

Jono

Super Sponsor
Read Only
You just can't get the staff nowadays! :bang:

Which is why I'm leaving.
 
S

stevetyler

Guest
Blimey, you blokes don't half spend some time talking about Police work !
 

Murt

Letch
Blimey, you blokes don't half spend some time talking about Police work !

That's because 'most' on here haven't ridden a Motorcycle / bike / anything for Months!!





.







p0pc0rn41


And it's usually a no win argument!!

Murt.
 
M

morphgarth

Guest
That's because 'most' on here haven't ridden a Motorcycle / bike / anything for Months!!


p0pc0rn41


And it's usually a no win argument!!

Murt.


.............and everyone's an expert!!!!:-0)
 

gypsy

MAN on the PAN
Feckin Policemen what sort of person would want to that job for a living anyway :-0)
 
Top