Humberside plod launch airborne campaign against bikers

[scribbler]

Bearing in mind that Humberside is a crime blackspot and the police force has one of the worst detection/performance records in the country how can they justify pouring resources into an airborne campaign against bikers.

Operation Achilles involves cracking down on bikers - not motorists mind - with a helicopter..this is in addition to a fleet of unmarked bikes including Hayabusas plus souped up boy racer cars like Suburu Imprezas.

Just wish plod would put as much effort into catching real criminals.. meantime anyone know where I can buy a chopper detector!!h1d1ng2

 

[solorider]

Bearing in mind that Humberside is a crime blackspot and the police force has one of the worst detection/performance records in the country how can they justify pouring resources into an airborne campaign against bikers.

Operation Achilles involves cracking down on bikers - not motorists mind - with a helicopter..this is in addition to a fleet of unmarked bikes including Hayabusas plus souped up boy racer cars like Suburu Imprezas.

Just wish plod would put as much effort into catching real criminals.. meantime anyone know where I can buy a chopper detector!!h1d1ng2

borrow a missile launcher from the raf,should sort the problem out

 

[roXXo]

Just wish plod would put as much effort into catching real criminals.. meantime anyone know where I can buy a chopper detector!!h1d1ng2

They would if they didn't have to spend their time catching other real criminals.
Selfish Tossers on bikes who have no respect for other road users or the law.
They are criminals as well.
We quite rightly chastise bad car driving but we must also remember that there is bad motorcycle riding.
Not just inappropriate speeding.

Unfortunately the many good motorcycling roads in our area attract many bad motorcycle riders.

If we cannot behave ourselves then the consequences for the individual is bad enough but worryingly, it gives more ammunition to anti motorcycling faction to push for eliminating all powered two wheelers.

 

[karlos2000]

Just wish plod would put as much effort into catching real criminals..

riding like a ladyparts is not a real crime then? so, where do you draw the line? is mugging my granny OK, but mugging yours bang out of order? It's just interesting that some wankers seem to think they can pick and choose the laws they want to obey. If you don't break the law, you don't get hassled, if you do break the law and then get caught, simply grow some testicles and live with the consequences. It's quite a simple concept really, even the yanks understand it ......... people who ride like wankers just ruin biking for me, giving real bikers a bad name, I have no time for it :wank:

 

[Jaws]

Whilst your chastising sentiments are well made and well taken, you are missing the point folks.

Just exactly how many bikers riding like cnuts as Karlos put it, do we suppose there are within the cachement area under discussion ?
Compair that number to the number of others performing criminal acts and we see a HUGE dis-proportion of available funds being spent on operation Achilles.

Yes, a small minority of people riding bikes in that area might ( might ) deserve to be nicked, but expenditure of this magnitude to catch the few ( very few ) is beyond the ken..

It is also worth remembering that while someones riding may be perceived as dangerous, it could just as easily be exactly that.. a perception.
Follow the average dispatcher in London. ( I dare you ! LOL ! )
To those who have never done it, it seems that every single one of them doing the job has a death wish and is on a personal mission to kill as many people as possible.
yet the figures show a completely different story.
Accidents per mile done by London couriers are less than 15% the national average for non-job riders.

Take a look at the average police rider..
Very quick, very smooth yet for the untrained eye their riding could be seen as dangerous ( note.. the untrained eye, not by anyone who has the slightest riding knowledge ! )

I am of the belief the Humberside police ( at least those with scambled egg all over their uniforms ) have been shown a way to do something high profile, that will move the public gaze away from the abysmal crime levels they are currently suffering.
And you know what really takes the biscuit ?
Chances are the whole idea was put forward by a non serving person and presented to the upper echelons..
They in turn implement it and those on the ground are gonna have to implement it all and take the flack for it.



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This has been todays load of bollocks. Make of it what you will !!!!!

 

[deanorc51]

riding like a ladyparts is not a real crime then? so, where do you draw the line? is mugging my granny OK, but mugging yours bang out of order? It's just interesting that some wankers seem to think they can pick and choose the laws they want to obey. If you don't break the law, you don't get hassled, if you do break the law and then get caught, simply grow some testicles and live with the consequences. It's quite a simple concept really, even the yanks understand it ......... people who ride like wankers just ruin biking for me, giving real bikers a bad name, I have no time for it :wank:

talking of wankers . . . . :wank:

 

[roXXo]

I take your points Jaws.

Regarding numbers of traffic law criminals compared to others, well every weekend and increasingly midweek evening there really are hoards.
It has to be seen to be believed. The Yorkshire Wolds and Moors especially but also the biker haunts at Sherburn in Elmet and Willingham Woods attract hundreds of bikers with a large minority riding like idiots.

The number of motorcyclists out enjoying our roads has increased markedly in the last 10 years, unfortunately the number of twots has risen as well.
If I notice it as a rider then non riding car drivers will also and as you say their perception may be wrong.

There are obviously many skillful despatch riders but I am sure they will admit to breaking traffic laws every day. There are many lucky despatch riders as well.

I don't want to overstate the problem of bad riding / law breaking but it is an increasing problem in rural areas.


Rider training is out there but these numpties are the ones least likely to take up the offer.
Police helicopters may seem a massive expense and an undesireable use of police resources but the expense in insurance claims, injury and loss of life is not acceptable.


Reminds me of visiting Cadwell and Mallory as a 19 year old on my Triumph Daytona. Never been among so many bikers.
What a fantastic feeling.
Saw my first ever wheelie on the road near Mallory, a red H1 Kawasaki. Don't know if it was intentional though.

S'pose some things never change. We're all hooligans

Helicopters specifically targeting bikers may be a bit over the top though.

 

[wuz_uk]

I take your points Jaws.

Regarding numbers of traffic law criminals compared to others, well every weekend and increasingly midweek evening there really are hoards.
It has to be seen to be believed. The Yorkshire Wolds and Moors especially but also the biker haunts at Sherburn in Elmet and Willingham Woods attract hundreds of bikers with a large minority riding like idiots.

The number of motorcyclists out enjoying our roads has increased markedly in the last 10 years, unfortunately the number of twots has risen as well.
If I notice it as a rider then non riding car drivers will also and as you say their perception may be wrong.

There are obviously many skillful despatch riders but I am sure they will admit to breaking traffic laws every day. There are many lucky despatch riders as well.

I don't want to overstate the problem of bad riding / law breaking but it is an increasing problem in rural areas.


Rider training is out there but these numpties are the ones least likely to take up the offer.
Police helicopters may seem a massive expense and an undesireable use of police resources but the expense in insurance claims, injury and loss of life is not acceptable.


Reminds me of visiting Cadwell and Mallory as a 19 year old on my Triumph Daytona. Never been among so many bikers.
What a fantastic feeling.
Saw my first ever wheelie on the road near Mallory, a red H1 Kawasaki. Don't know if it was intentional though.

S'pose some things never change. We're all hooligans

Helicopters specifically targeting bikers may be a bit over the top though.

they better be or they have landed :-0)

 

[karlos2000]

:wank:

talking of wankers . . . .

indeed :wank: I take it you disagree then, but we all get a go don't we son ...... :-0)

Willingham Woods attract hundreds of bikers with a large minority riding like idiots.

I concur, it's a fooking embarassment to the point where I cheered when they pulled the stroker on the 'blade pulling ton up wheelies as he left the 40 zone in Rasen .... I went back to give him some serious in his face ....

 

[malepmt]

I think if your not a bit of a hooligan at heart and don't break the odd law and don't speed you wouldn't ride a bike g0nn3
There are some nutters about on bikes but there are also alot of muggers drug takers robbers and the list goes on are the public more concernd about nutters on bikes or drug users that are stabbing people for pocket change ??? I do agree something needs doing about nutters on bikes so set up some speed traps and ban them for dangerous driving/riding is there really a need to make a huge song and dance about it and commit a helicopter to the task

As john said high profile easy to clean up makes plod look good

 

[deanorc51]

:wank:

indeed :wank: I take it you disagree then, but we all get a go don't we son ...... :-0)
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I don't necessarily have to disagree with your point to find the tone of your original post disagreeable, though if you genuinely don't object to bikers being scrutinised more closely than the rest of society, then I do disagree with you . . . . son :wank:

 

[TANK0700]

can i join in :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: :wank: hay this is fun

 

[karlos2000]

most certainly ...

I don't necessarily have to disagree with your point to find the tone of your original post disagreeable, though if you genuinely don't object to bikers being scrutinised more closely than the rest of society, then I do disagree with you . . . . sonny Jimbo :wank:

cool ....... so long as you agree then ............ :-0) us real bikers wouldn't want to appear complete and utter strokers would we :dunno: so, a "tone", yeah, that was the general intention .... :-:

my wanker icon has worn out ......................

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

people who ride like wankers just ruin biking for me, giving real bikers a bad name, I have no time for it :wank:

Bwahahahahaha!

A 'REAL' biker afraid of having a bad name. Do me a favour...

All this 'riders like you, give us all a bad name' is f*cking bollox.
Rebellion is a young man's game. Anything after that is middle aged motorcyclists having a wine & moan.

I never started riding bikes because it was safe or socially acceptable. I rode bikes because it gave me a thrill to ride as fast as I possibly could, liked to be thought of as slightly anti social & a bit of a greebo.
Long hair, loud metal & bikes. Two fingers up at the law & weekends getting f*cked out of my scull on alcohol and substances.

I got older, realised I had to change in order to grow, & now I can look back on my youth & twenties with great fondness and a little cheeky glint in my eye that tells me I got away with a lot.

I've been a long time in the 'socially acceptable' catagory, just another number, another with a mortgage and mouths to feed, but I still ride bikes. I'll never be as sad as to point the finger at anyone who has a bit of a mad moment & shout out "It's blokes like you that are ruining it for the rest of us." I may be on the door of middle age, who now blends in with the average motorcyclist, but I'll not whinge like a sad c*nt.

And breathe......:-0)

 

[eksex]

You pay your money & you take your chance.

 

[Bodmin]

I've been a long time in the 'socially acceptable' catagory

When was that, then, Ben? :dunno::dunno:

 

[roXXo]

Bwahahahahaha!

A 'REAL' biker afraid of having a bad name. Do me a favour...

All this 'riders like you, give us all a bad name' is f*cking bollox.
Rebellion is a young man's game. Anything after that is middle aged motorcyclists having a wine & moan.

I never started riding bikes because it was safe or socially acceptable. I rode bikes because it gave me a thrill to ride as fast as I possibly could, liked to be thought of as slightly anti social & a bit of a greebo.
Long hair, loud metal & bikes. Two fingers up at the law & weekends getting f*cked out of my scull on alcohol and substances.

I got older, realised I had to change in order to grow, & now I can look back on my youth & twenties with great fondness and a little cheeky glint in my eye that tells me I got away with a lot.

I've been a long time in the 'socially acceptable' catagory, just another number, another with a mortgage and mouths to feed, but I still ride bikes. I'll never be as sad as to point the finger at anyone who has a bit of a mad moment & shout out "It's blokes like you that are ruining it for the rest of us." I may be on the door of middle age, who now blends in with the average motorcyclist, but I'll not whinge like a sad c*nt.

And breathe......:-0)

Of course we all start out like that, well us that have never been without a bike since 17 but these selfish tossers seem to be 30 + year old "children".

I can forgive youth on peds but grown men acting like twots. Nah.

My god, we have some guys at work in their late 30s and early 40s who play with X boxes etc.
I tell them, they're men not boys.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

 

[osprey03]

with a large minority riding like idiots.
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If you had a large minority, wouldn't that make it the majority ?

I think if people ride like a twat, then don't moan if you get treated like a twat.

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

When was that, then, Ben? :dunno::dunno:

I forget now...Old age & that. You know how it is.

Of course we all start out like that, well us that have never been without a bike since 17 but these selfish tossers seem to be 30 + year old "children".

I can forgive youth on peds but grown men acting like twots. Nah.

My god, we have some guys at work in their late 30s and early 40s who play with X boxes etc.
I tell them, they're men not boys.

When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

Oh, I can agree with you in some respects on that. Middle aged crisis has a lot to answer for.
If you don't want to be nicked, stay within the legal posted speed limits & don't take any risks.
I'm not saying it's particularly clever to be a hooligan at a 'mature', I just think it's ironic to claim to be a 'real' biker and then bleet about the behaviour of others.

'The wild one' would never have been the same if Marlon Brando responded to the question "What are you rebelling against, johnny?" with
"Bad weather & people that speed."

I only have a playstation 2 -(

 

[gypsy]

I got older, realised I had to change in order to grow)and still feckin growing !, & now I can look back on my youth & twenties with great fondness and a little cheeky glint in my eye that tells me I got away with a lot.( even if you had to leave the country):-0)

Ah bless ............