Nobby, sorry if I didn't explain my thoughts on this clearly but if the local councils have thought it necessary to post a 60 or any other speed limit for that matter, I would assume that there is a considered danger over and above that on a National speed limit. So, having been warned of this by the posted limit, I consider that more care should be taken. In my area, a once pleasure to ride dual carriageway with a national speed limit of 70mph has been posted with a 50. Bloody annoying to me but I know there have been many accidents on this road because of its long sweeping bends. Yes I still do well over 50 on this road when its quiet but if I get caught whos fault is it?The Signs are big enough to see :dunno: On the IOM their national speed limit is as fast as you think is safe but, when the TT is on they post speed limits to try to keep visitors from killing themselves.