Knee down.....

[Wolfie]

dont be stupid gippo!!!! when have you know bert to pay????

 

[BrisbaneBlackbird]

Knee down on public roads

Well I don't worry about road deformations as I rarely knee down on the road as it's too risky given the shitty road surfaces here in the UK and be there's little point TBH. QUOTE]

Sure - but he was talking about trying to do it on his local roundabout.

PS -

My BB has 700km's on it now and i'm starting to push it a little harder on the cornering, - checked the rear tyre yesterday and its still no further scrubbed than after the 1st 100kms, (was new from the showroom floor) still has about 1/2inch (for you poms) to go on the outside.

Thanks to comments in this thread i'm a little more comfy with pushing it a bit harder in the corners now.

was wondering why i wasn't going round corners faster on bike than in my car!

Ken

 

[abbeytec]

Yes, Yes, YES!!!!

Well Cruser, your information was absolutely spot on...:yo:

Thanks to your good self, I have worn my right hand hero blob down to sod all, and now also need a new knee slider !!!:neenaw:


Ken, assuming you have decent tyres, and they are nicely warmed, you can, as Cruser says, lean the Bird over further than you ever thought possible. 3 days ago my knee was 4 to 6 inches off the deck, now it's never off it....


Only problem is my left hand slider is still new... Perhaps a trip to France is in order before I book that track day???:} :} :}

 

[bub1664]

anybody know where there are some good left hand roundabouts or where i can get hold of a cheap disc grinder

 

[BrisbaneBlackbird]

sliding knees

Ken, assuming you have decent tyres, and they are nicely warmed, you can, as Cruser says, lean the Bird over further than you ever thought possible. 3 days ago my knee was 4 to 6 inches off the deck, now it's never off it....


Only problem is my left hand slider is still new... Perhaps a trip to France is in order before I book that track day???:} :} :}

Yes i am realising that - just still building up the confidence to lean 'er over - of course don't want to go too far cause i don't have knee sliders! so may well like to keep my knees 6inches off the black stuff

Ken

 

[Centaur]

Damn right Gyppo

all this getting your knee down malarky is stupid and pointles and is only practised by show offs and wannabee track day gods
and before you ask no i cant get my feckin knee down :f

nobody ever saw Mike the Bike get his knee down or his arse off teh seat. If it was good enough for him etc.......NO I can't do it on a Bbird either.

 

[Nige J]

Why oh why are people obssessed with getting their knee down on the road ?
There are loads of problems on your local roundabout, that can make it all go pear shape (eg. diesel, gravel, traffic), then you end up getting your knee down (and any other body/motorcycle parts that gravity decides to throw onto the tarmac).
I have a philosophy, that track days are there to get everything out of your system, that really shouldn't be done on the road. The byproduct of this, is that you don't feel any need to ride like a lunatic on the road.
But if you must, must, MUST get your knee down on the road, this is how I was told (by quite a well known ex-GP rider). Get the crack of your arse on the edge of the seat, put the ball of your foot (on the inside of the corner) on the footrest, press your opposite leg into the side of the tank, dip your shoulder (on the inside of the corner). Before you attempt any of this, warm up before you get on the bike. Squat down and force your knees apart with your elbows (while sitting on your haunches).
If you still can't do it - give up!

PS. Get a track bike as well as the 'bird - you don't worry so much about the shiny bits then.

 

[Cruser]

Why oh why are people obssessed with getting their knee down on the road ?
There are loads of problems on your local roundabout, that can make it all go pear shape (eg. diesel, gravel, traffic), then you end up getting your knee down (and any other body/motorcycle parts that gravity decides to throw onto the tarmac).
I have a philosophy, that track days are there to get everything out of your system, that really shouldn't be done on the road. The byproduct of this, is that you don't feel any need to ride like a lunatic on the road.

Bit retentive today aren't we Nije

Some people are obsessed by it because they think it looks cool. Some people aren't obsessed by it but see it as just another skill to learn. Some people, like me, do it almost everywhere we go just because we can, and because it's FUN :neenaw:

Someone doesn't have to be riding like a lunatic just because they have their knee down going round a roundabout. If done properly, then the same rules that apply on the track can apply on the road, i.e. that the bike can be leant over LESS due to the rider 'hanging off'. So you worrying about stuff on the roundabout, isn't going to have any more detrimental effect whether the rider has their knee-down or not is it? What difference does it make?

I've just got back from a trackday at Mallory where I finished off a set of sliders - anyone who can't get their knee down wanna buy 'em? Nije? :m

 

[Cruser]

Well Cruser, your information was absolutely spot on...

Thanks to your good self, I have worn my right hand hero blob down to sod all, and now also need a new knee slider !!!


Ken, assuming you have decent tyres, and they are nicely warmed, you can, as Cruser says, lean the Bird over further than you ever thought possible. 3 days ago my knee was 4 to 6 inches off the deck, now it's never off it....


Only problem is my left hand slider is still new... Perhaps a trip to France is in order before I book that track day???

Well done Abbey k1ap , it's pretty easy really isn't it, once you get over over the mental block and work out the logic behind it.

As for the left knee, go and find some nice slip roads onto a dual carriageway or similar. You obviously can't go round and round like on a roundabout, but this is in someways good as you've now got to learn how to slide off the seat and then back up again pretty quickly as you would on a track, as opposed to just sitting there going round and round!!

Or you could cheat and just switch the sliders over But someone with a keen eye might spot that the scratches go the wrong way 8l1nd

But just remember now, it's not big nor clever, it does'nt make you any faster, you might fall off and you may look like a lunatic :k

 

[Wolfie]

and it costs you money

 

[Cruser]

and it costs you money

Bugger, forgot about that too :bang: Think I might have to take up sleeping, far safer, you can't see people looking at you calling you a looney and surely it's cheap enough?

On second thoughts, no. I'm sure I heard on the news that someone recently died in their sleep What am I to do now :dunno:

 

[Wolfie]

sleep with one eye open, that way you will see the bastids coming

 

[gypsy]

Bit retentive today aren't we Nije

Some people are obsessed by it because they think it looks cool. Some people aren't obsessed by it but see it as just another skill to learn. Some people, like me, do it almost everywhere we go just because we can, and because it's FUN :neenaw:

Someone doesn't have to be riding like a lunatic just because they have their knee down going round a roundabout. If done properly, then the same rules that apply on the track can apply on the road, i.e. that the bike can be leant over LESS due to the rider 'hanging off'. So you worrying about stuff on the roundabout, isn't going to have any more detrimental effect whether the rider has their knee-down or not is it? What difference does it make?

I've just got back from a trackday at Mallory where I finished off a set of sliders - anyone who can't get their knee down wanna buy 'em? Nije? :m

i'l have em cruser :bow:
not for my knees but for my helmet so people think i'm a riding god :yo:

 

[gypsy]

sleep with one eye open, that way you will see the bastids coming

cheers Woolfie some of us have a living to earn :bang:

 

[Cruser]

cheers Woolfie some of us have a living to earn :bang:

Blimey, Gippo works for Grim Reaper inc.

 

[gypsy]

Blimey, Gippo works for Grim Reaper inc.

Nah
sole trader but if youve got ya eyes open i could end up on crimewatch

 

[Nige J]

Bit retentive today aren't we Nije

Some people are obsessed by it because they think it looks cool. Some people aren't obsessed by it but see it as just another skill to learn. Some people, like me, do it almost everywhere we go just because we can, and because it's FUN :neenaw:

Someone doesn't have to be riding like a lunatic just because they have their knee down going round a roundabout. If done properly, then the same rules that apply on the track can apply on the road, i.e. that the bike can be leant over LESS due to the rider 'hanging off'. So you worrying about stuff on the roundabout, isn't going to have any more detrimental effect whether the rider has their knee-down or not is it? What difference does it make?

I've just got back from a trackday at Mallory where I finished off a set of sliders - anyone who can't get their knee down wanna buy 'em? Nije? :m

At least have the decency to spell my name right

I don't feel the need to "have fun" on roundabouts by getting my knee down, I'll just have my fun on the track, where there are no Police, no diesel spills, no blind old biddies pulling out on me and no chippings deposited by some witless council contractor.

While we're on the subject - you take a roundabout at a speed to enable you to get your knee down. I take the same roundabout at a speed where I feel it isn't necessary to do the same. Both of us come across one of the above possible hazards - tell you what, I'll visit you in hospital.

Just one more thing. Next time, I might be on a track the same time as you, and I'll wear your sliders out for you............. (Donington, 27th September ???)

 

[blumeeni]

Oh yeah so why didn't I get a visit then :}

 

[gus]

nobody ever saw Mike the Bike get his knee down or his arse off teh seat. If it was good enough for him etc.......NO I can't do it on a Bbird either.

.....sometime I take a look at a Kevin Schwantz dvd's...... :lick:

 

[Cruser]

At least have the decency to spell my name right

I don't feel the need to "have fun" on roundabouts by getting my knee down, I'll just have my fun on the track, where there are no Police, no diesel spills, no blind old biddies pulling out on me and no chippings deposited by some witless council contractor.

While we're on the subject - you take a roundabout at a speed to enable you to get your knee down. I take the same roundabout at a speed where I feel it isn't necessary to do the same. Both of us come across one of the above possible hazards - tell you what, I'll visit you in hospital.

Just one more thing. Next time, I might be on a track the same time as you, and I'll wear your sliders out for you............. (Donington, 27th September ???)

Ok, I'll take the bait Sorry for spelling your name wrong, Nige.

Totally agree with having fun on the track and that this is the place to push it. But whilst you don't like 'having fun' getting your knee down on the road, I do - each to their own and all that.

As for knee down = speeding/going too fast for the road conditions, well that's just a load of tosh. Two days ago I was at Mallory Park, getting my knee down at the Hairpin. This is a first gear corner, very slow, maybe 20mph? I don't know as I wasn't looking at the speedo but bloody slow either way. The point being that you don't need to carry excessive speed just to get your knee down.

Please don't insult my riding ability which you have never seen, by insinuating that I can't spot a potential hazard on the road. Getting my knee down - whether on the road or on track - is perfectly within my capabilities whilst at the same time making safe progress thanks :k

As for Donny, are you calling me outside? g0551p