Foxhunting-thanks Ritchie for the idea

[birdinflight]

Here where I live and work,

we regularily have the hunt literally passing through. I live in the sticks, and my boss, is more than happy to have them tramping over her land. After all she also joins them occasionally.

I have had the benefit of listening to her talking about it, and interestingly they rarely get a fox.

I don't condone it, I am, against fox hunting.

To go to another creature that is hunted, and also bred for the privelidge of being shot down. The pheasant. My bosses land has several breeding pens for pheasants, she also gets paid for the usage of her land for shooting.

What shocks me is that very little of the shot birds are taken for food. They are buried and left to rot. I am not talking about two or three, I am talking about possibly upwards of 100. Most of the shooters will take a brace and thats it.

Mind you my boss thinks she is a country person. Born and bred in London! She puts up fencing to stop the deer getting into a conservation area accross from me, wild orchids I believe. The South Downs conservation group gave a grant for it. So she puts up the fencing to stop the deer getting in amongst other animals too. Except its not deer fencing, its too low, so the deer can jump in and out. Except that its just high enough for the double barbed wire to catch their legs when they jump out. I had to go out one morning when a deer got caught. Thankfully it got itself free.

Anyway, i have digressed here!!!! Next time the hunt go by I might get my air rifle out and do a bit of target practice!!!!!!! :shooter:

 

[Wolfie]

However, be aware that faced with a person with your intention I will take what ever action I see fit to protect myself. Take it further and, as I have personnally witnessed by 'gentle, law-abiding' antis, slash at horse with knives, throw caltraps on the ground or threaten an 8 yr old girl on her pony ( she was not even involved in the hunt) by grabbing the ponys bridle and making to throw liquid he claimed to be acid over her and in the ponys eyes, then I WILL cause you an immense amount of pain.

ahh shit!!!!



as a protestor, i have been charged by wankers on horse, had my head kicked by wankers on horses, been hit with a feckin whip by wankers on horses, been arrested by the police who was a wanker on a horse, been threated with the hounds, been hit with the houndsmans club, all because i stood in a public wood, protesting.

does being on a horse and waiting to kill a fox make them people better than me???


does it FUCK!!! i would never treat people the way the people treated me, not even them. Has the above stopped me, no bollocks has it, but i am learning, stay away from the feckin horse when they come near you and take the fecker down from behind after he has swung at you.

Would you go horse hunting?? or Dog Hunting??? or Cat hunting???

 

[Jaws]

or Cat hunting???

What do you mean would I ?
There is a bounty on cats around here Wolfie.. they are NOT the most popular animal around !

But then, I admit I do hunt them with a feck off big water pistol..

Oh and horse hunting is just a non starter mate.. They go to earth and you can see their arses sticking up.. feckin useless they are.. way too easy.

 

[Wolfie]

but at least you could eat the feckin thing!!!

and not waste its life.

 

[derek kelly]

I make absolutely no excuses, I hunt because I enjoy it and object to anyone who tries to tell me how, what and where I take my enjoyment.


Even though your enjoyment is to the horror and disgust to the majority

Jaws put it more PC in terms of civil liberties but basically its my life and I will live it how I want.



even when it is against the law



Undoubtedly this will get all the tree huggers up in arms but as this is such a polarised subject, whatever I say will not change your minds, similarly what ever you say will not effect my opinions so I will not bother to read this thread anymore. If you want to bitch about me then go ahead, its your wasted breath.


spoken like a true fox hunter "I will do what I like, when I like" which endorses the view expressed that fox hunters feel that they are better than everyone else


Derek, you are quite welcome to take what ever action you see fit, that is the beauty of individual freedom and choice, the very thing you seem determined to deprive me of.


If you take enjoyment from the distress and torture of a defenceless animal then I will do everything possible to deprive you of that enjoyment


However, be aware that faced with a person with your intention I will take what ever action I see fit to protect myself. Take it further and, as I have personnally witnessed by 'gentle, law-abiding' antis, slash at horse with knives, throw caltraps on the ground or threaten an 8 yr old girl on her pony ( she was not even involved in the hunt) by grabbing the ponys bridle and making to throw liquid he claimed to be acid over her and in the ponys eyes, then I WILL cause you an immense amount of pain.



As a father and a human being I do not endorse violence against women or children, and as a horse owner and animal lover I will not condone any form of cruelty to animals


Just to throw more fuel on the fire, I am also:
Pro-hanging,

As a prison officer dealing with the dregs of humanity I am in agreement on this one


Pro-abortion,
Sorry Imho abortion is murder

anti-european federalisation (the original EEC ideal was a good thing),

I agree on this one


wouldn't piss on the French if they were on fire (as a race, not individually - I've met FCUK, a nice guy)


I on the other hand have met several French men/woman and have found them all to be polite courteous and a damn sight more respectful than some Brits abroad


and support the idea of restricted immigration.


Again I agree



I have lived in Canada, currently trying to emmigrate there, and have visited the US and Australia several times. They all have strick immigration policies and, in my OPINION, are better for it.

I shall now retire and imagine all the self-righteous, self-appointed guardians of our moral welfare choking on their blustering indignation.

I am not self righteous, I would have to be perfect for that, and like everybody I have my faults

 

[RHINO]

RAF SNCO, I don't think that makes me middle class.

I make absolutely no excuses, I hunt because I enjoy it and object to anyone who tries to tell me how, what and where I take my enjoyment. Jaws put it more PC in terms of civil liberties but basically its my life and I will live it how I want.

Derek, you are quite welcome to take what ever action you see fit, that is the beauty of individual freedom and choice, the very thing you seem determined to deprive me of. However, be aware that faced with a person with your intention I will take what ever action I see fit to protect myself.
I shall now retire and imagine all the self-righteous, self-appointed guardians of our moral welfare choking on their blustering indignation.

There's another list of miopic views.....
Where exactly do you get this 'ENJOYMENT' from?? Is it the "hunt" (i use the term loosly), is it a POWER thing, a kind of belittled harmless creature over powered by a C**T on a nag following a pack of thick hounds??

What about the fact that the Fox you've just hunted is the one that visits MY garden and the fact that I want to see it there, YOU don't have the right to take that creature for your own bloodlust fun!!

Are you the sort who would kick off if i got in your way during your sordid pastime, i'd like to see that :} :} :}
There's another off my xmas card list

 

[Aidey]

Methinks it could be a bit of a laugh at the BASH this year

 

[RHINO]

Methinks it could be a bit of a laugh at the BASH this year

Is anyone actually going this year :dunno:

 

[Jaws]

Happy to report the list of those wanting tickets is growing nicely !

 

[bitontheside]

Fox Hunting

There are quite a few sign's around here ( Cheshire Set, doncha know) that say " Fight the Ban, Fight Predjudice". Predjudice against who or what? The vast majority of the British people want this outdated way of live for life's morons to be banned. FACT. It will be if the idiot we have for Prime Minister does what he promises. He will probably be swayed by the ****ryside Alliance.
I have witnessed first hand how huntsmen behave whilst out on a hunt. I very nearly ran one over a few years back - he just stood right in front of me while I was driving a wagon - in hindsight I should have flattened the twat. I also used to be in the Hunt Saboteurs but never took part.
As for job losses - don't make me laugh. Did these very same people leap up and down when the mines closed or a steelworks shut down for good. Did they bollocks! Probably had another pink gin and said "f*** 'em"!
Scruffygit - yeah, you are right - you won't change peoples views - but you are allowed to vote to ban it or not.
Jaws - this has nothing to do with erosion of peoples right's - this is something that civilised people actually want. The sooner the better.

 

[Scalesy]

a kind of belittled harmless creature over powered by a C***T on a nag following a pack of thick hounds??

Thought about this and just can't decide

comet, court, count, chest?

No beats me, who or what is riding the nag? :bang:

 

[RHINO]

a kind of belittled harmless creature over powered by a C***T on a nag following a pack of thick hounds??

Thought about this and just can't decide

comet, court, count, chest?

No beats me, who or what is riding the nag? :bang:

I dunno what your on about mate Bastid :xm

 

[ianrobbo1]

so are we for or against huntin then??? I ask cos this fookin fence is "doin" me piles!!! :f

 

[derek kelly]

so are we for or against huntin then??? I ask cos this fookin fence is "doin" me piles!!! :f

Ian the whole idea of a forum is for people to express their own views, I for one am very much against fox hunting, but I cannot speak for others on here they have their own views, as you should also have your own ideas on the subject, if you want to be for it then be for it, likewise if you want to be against it be against it, some of the points raised on here may have altered your thoughts on the subject one way or the other, and you may now have a different opinion than when the thread was first opened, that is your choice and it is what debating is all about,
if you are against fox hunting then maybe we could attend one of the local hunts for a bit of saboutage.
if you are pro fox hunting

















I'll come and rip the roof off your garage when it's finished :f

 

[ianrobbo1]

so are we for or against huntin then??? I ask cos this fookin fence is "doin" me piles!!! :f

WELL!!!!

 

[derek kelly]

WELL!!!!

Are YOU for it or against it?

 

[Scalesy]

Are YOU for it or against it?

Dont rush him he's working out who to concur with!

 

[derek kelly]

Dont rush him he's working out who to concur with!

He used to be indescisive but now he's not so sure

 

[bitontheside]

There are quite a few sign's around here ( Cheshire Set, doncha know) that say " Fight the Ban, Fight Predjudice". Predjudice against who or what? The vast majority of the British people want this outdated way of live for life's morons to be banned. FACT. It will be if the idiot we have for Prime Minister does what he promises. He will probably be swayed by the ****ryside Alliance.


To whomever edited "Countryside" Alliance - thanks, I got a bit carried away there! :blush: Jaws/Bert?

 

[juicylucy]

if your not sure wether it should be banned then go to the rspca site and click on fox hunting then watch the footage from antihunt campaigners, im sure it will make your mind up.