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Civil Liberties. What would you scrap?

derek kelly

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fivetide

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Some shocking stuff in here.

Two things, public indecency is public indecency no matter what. Plenty of 'straight' people get done for flashing etc too.

A Gay Pride march isn't going to make me gay likewise today's celebration of the Scottish and Irish cancer that is protestant v catholic won't change me one bit either, as an individual i am capable of making my own mind up and not worryign about the influence those evil gays might have on me.

The guest house owner was wrong, its a guest house, quite simple, its not like they just rocked up at a random house and demanded to be let in. She couldn't do the same if they were black etc and it only showed her own bigoted feelings.

On the pikies this is being addressed actually. The issue at the moment is that trespass is a civil matter so it takes a while to get them moved as the police can do nothing. It should become a criminal matter so as soon as they rock up the police can wade in and move them on. About time too as well.

I'd also like to see laws we do have being enforced, teenage prenancies, especially these underage ones - minimum 5 years inside for the 'dad'. Under age sex is statuory rape and instead of being splashed all over the Daily Heil, sorry Mail, they should be locked up. Might make a few think a bit more about it then.

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karlos2000

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Not like you to be lost for words I have a mentally handicapped [retarded is not pc] brother, are you saying it is wrong to be handicapped?

no, I'm saying you are retarded .... it's self evident.
 

derek kelly

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no, I'm saying you are retarded .... it's self evident.
Karlos, that statement says far more about you than it does me.

Having never met me & based on the fact that I have a different opinion to yours you arrive at the conclusion that I am retarded, this from a man who thinks it's ok to follow a pack of hounds chasing a fox to it's death.
 

derek kelly

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The guest house owner was wrong, its a guest house, quite simple, its not like they just rocked up at a random house and demanded to be let in.
If she has strong feelings then she is perfectly entitled not to let them in, it's her guest house.
She couldn't do the same if they were black etc
If they were black gays then she probably would have turned them away but not because of the colour of their skin
and it only showed her own bigoted feelings.
What people do in their own homes is up to them, this guest house was also this lady's home if she doesn't want gays in it then she should be perfectly entitled to turn them away, should she be castigated for standing her ground & refusing something that goes against her principles? what about her feelings?
 

Tinytim

Registered User
what about her feelings?

"Sorry" Derek..but fook her feelings...She's running a business and just cannot discriminate. She knows the laws the stupid self righteous split arse.

As for the rest of ya comments e.g the 1982 incident...fook it, I'm off to look for my licence and standard seat.

BTW...got a pack of 8 Walls sausages today from Spar for a quid...:eek:..Yes, a quid. Now they DO caramelise proper.


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karlos2000

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Karlos, that statement says far more about you than it does me.
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no, it doesn't, I'm simply highlighting your provincial, narrow minded view of the world ..... your views are regressive, not progressive ..... my Daily Mail comment was bang on the money .....

you are special needs version of that Jack Smethurst character in my mind ... at best
 
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trigantle

Talking of which
Wadya mean!!

That God didn't make me?
Why me, that's against my equal opportunities that is.......

But I agree with the statement Derek.
If a male / Female couple were openly having oral sex in the corner of, lets say, a secluded railway station waiting room, and a complaint was made, they would get 'done' / arrested / dealt with in some way.(and have been).

Try that with a male / male (or female/female) couple in the same circs and all hell would break out with the gay rights lot, and has done on many occasions that I know of!

It should be exactly the same rules of engagement.

Consenting, in a PRIVATE place, that's how it should be.

Murt.

But what if they arn't engaged, just good friends w;;v
 

gypsy

MAN on the PAN
Yes... Thought I may get some 'propa' debate or ideas going but.......


Anyway.


I think that if someone is found in another persons enclosed and secure home, without good cause, during the hours of darkness, as a trespasser, they should lose all rights to defence, and protection of the law.

If the owner of the property defends themselves or a member of their family, the trespasser should have NO rights at all.


Murt
Is eating pizza "good cause" ?
 

Murt

Letch
Is eating pizza "good cause" ?

Depends if its deep pan or thin crust.

You can cause some nasty wounds with a thin crust pizza..... ;-0))

Of cause, any toppings would have to be Halal, Kosher, or none meat product or someone could get offended. That would obviously be in breach of their human rights.
 
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derek kelly

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"Sorry" Derek..but fook her feelings...She's running a business and just cannot discriminate. She knows the laws the stupid self righteous split arse.
she's running HER business & she has had the courage to put her own morals before money & the backlash that she no doubt knew would follow

As for the rest of ya comments e.g the 1982 incident...fook it, I'm off to look for my licence and standard seat.
Your license is in the kitchen drawer with your hammer & monkey wrench, your standard seat is probably underneath the lawn mower
BTW...got a pack of 8 Walls sausages today from Spar for a quid...:eek:..Yes, a quid. Now they DO caramelise proper.
Prefer Richmonds to walls but you can't beat Debbie & Andrews :lick:
 

Duck n Dive

Rebel without a clue ...
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On the pikies this is being addressed actually. The issue at the moment is that trespass is a civil matter so it takes a while to get them moved as the police can do nothing. It should become a criminal matter so as soon as they rock up the police can wade in and move them on. About time too as well.


So what on earth is criminal damage them .. then ? .. thought that was a "criminal" offence :eek:


If they've caused crop damage, fence damage etc isn't that "property" damage and so criminal

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Fact is the police can often find "good cause" for all sorts of reasons to sort out this sort of behaviour ..



how often do we discuss that subject on here :-0)



methinks there may be some sort of guidelines out there for them to use in dealing with pik...... sorry ... travellers ....


either than or they just don't fancy a run in with a bunch of caravanners in a field

h1d1ng2
 

andyBeaker

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Derek, just out of interest, do you have black gay ferrets up your way?

If so, any views?

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fivetide

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she's running HER business & she has had the courage to put her own morals before money & the backlash that she no doubt knew would follow

One would suggest she is in the wrong business then. For me its like a vegetarian opening a butcher's shop and moaning because someone came in for a nice length of sausage.

Stupid bigoted woman, nothing else. She is the vomiting WI woman from Little Britain.

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