Bloody Hitler!

[Wolfie]

Hearing the word company policy fly about...spoke to Morrisons and Tesco...neither have it as policy... although I have been told at our local Tesco...seems like some of those minimum wage fucknuts are on a power trip

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Dear Trevor

Thank you for your email.

I have contacted our Business Support Team to clarify the policy, as I believe it has not changed.

They confirm our policy is; while helmets can act as a disguise it is their use, however infrequently, in crime which means we ask that they be removed so as to avoid the potential for alarm. It may appear to be inconsistent that we do not ask someone wearing a veil to take it off, but we wish to show sensitivity to the faith and culture of the individual concerned. We recognise it can be an inconvenience to remove a crash helmet but believe it will not result in the distress which might arise for a lady obliged to remove her veil in public.

Therefore, we think our current approach is inclusive strikes the right balance between respect for a different tradition and other considerations. Where a customer has covered their face, except for religious or cultural reasons, they should be asked politely and respectfully to remove the covering.

I hope this now answers your question.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Kind regards

Claire Jenkins
Tesco Customer Service

 

[Pow-Lo]

copied from another forum

Dear Trevor

Thank you for your email.

I have contacted our Business Support Team to clarify the policy, as I believe it has not changed.

They confirm our policy is; while helmets can act as a disguise it is their use, however infrequently, in crime which means we ask that they be removed so as to avoid the potential for alarm. It may appear to be inconsistent that we do not ask someone wearing a veil to take it off, but we wish to show sensitivity to the faith and culture of the individual concerned. We recognise it can be an inconvenience to remove a crash helmet but believe it will not result in the distress which might arise for a lady obliged to remove her veil in public.

Therefore, we think our current approach is inclusive strikes the right balance between respect for a different tradition and other considerations. Where a customer has covered their face, except for religious or cultural reasons, they should be asked politely and respectfully to remove the covering.

I hope this now answers your question.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Kind regards

Claire Jenkins
Tesco Customer Service

Another crock of shit.

They are pandering to other religions cos, like most institutions, they're petrified of being branded as anti-Islam.

 

[Wolfie]

Another crock of shit.

They are pandering to other religions cos, like most institutions, they're petrified of being branded as anti-Islam.

following the laws of the land regarding islam and other reglions.

the crock of shit is twatty motorcyclists who think is big and clever to be rule to people who are just doing their job, you fucking rude twat

 

[Centaur]

C'mon Andy

following the laws of the land regarding islam and other reglions.

the crock of shit is twatty motorcyclists who think is big and clever to be rule to people who are just doing their job, you fucking rude twat

Stop fudging. Say what you think!b0x2

 

[Pow-Lo]

following the laws of the land regarding islam and other reglions.

the crock of shit is twatty motorcyclists who think is big and clever to be rule to people who are just doing their job, you fucking rude twat

I wasn't rude to anyone, I just put my point across as you have done.

Except I haven't been rude and abusive ain doing so, unlike you, you tree-hugging, hippy, lefty, cock-sucking poof.

 

[derek kelly]

I have never had a problem with this, In fact I think it is rude to keep a helmet on when conversing with someone - even if it is 'only' to buy fuel.

If petrol stations want bikers to remove their helmets then they should provide a safe & secure place to store them.

My favoured fuel station is Sainsbury by The O2 Arena. Reason? Simple - pump takes credit cards, don't even have to get off the bike. Oh, and it's always 5 or 6p cheaper per liter than everywhere else.

Try filling at a shell station & see how many more miles you get from a tank.
I believe some cars had problems after using Sainsbury's city diesel.

 

[derek kelly]

buy a flip up then.

I was wearing a Caberg justissimo flip up & was told to remove my helmet at a petrol station in Hull.

cant sit on the bike around here, they dont turn the pumps on until you are off the bike.

Not a fan of sitting on the bike to fill up, what's the point? you've got to get off to pay anyway.

Must be so nice to work in a garage having to enforce a policy that somebody else made and take the flak from people for it. Just smile at the cashier who is earning a few pence over min wage and take your anger out on the management at head office. or just accept that is their rules and if you want to fill up there they are the rules you have to play by.

The cashier was also a biker & she was sympathetic, calling the manager a wanker, if the cashier has the right attitude then I have the right attitude, if they are prepared to act the little hitler for their minimum wage then they should expect the flak, there are ways of enforcing rules & dealing with customers politely.

How hard is it really to remove lid? stick it on the bike seat? carry it in with you as you pay?

So you put it on the bike seat & some scrote nicks it from under your nose & drives off, you carry it with you how do you get your wallet out & remove the money then take your receipt, helmets have been dropped this way.

 

[derek kelly]

If plod pulls you over, he will immediately ask you to take your helmet off, in ALL weathers. Would anyone ask him if he'd ask a Muslim to take off his/her headwear? Because up till that point he may just be about to give you a warning. Personally, I think you'd all be "yes officer, no officer, three bags full officer". Who cares if someone asks you to take off your bloody helmet, be the bigger person, accept it may be company policy, and oblige. No big deal.

Oggy stands by to duck!!!!


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If it was a copper on a bike I would ask him to remove his helmet as well, if he didn't I wouldn't.

 

[Saffie]

Wolfie read your post again mate...They ask for it to be removed to avoid causing distress it is not policy that you cant have it on...I did phone these guys and did ask them exactly what the rules were

 

[Cyclops]

p0pc0rn41 p0pc0rn41

 

[derek kelly]

copied from another forum

Dear Trevor

Thank you for your email.

I have contacted our Business Support Team to clarify the policy, as I believe it has not changed.

They confirm our policy is; while helmets can act as a disguise it is their use, however infrequently, in crime which means we ask that they be removed so as to avoid the potential for alarm. It may appear to be inconsistent that we do not ask someone wearing a veil to take it off, but we wish to show sensitivity to the faith and culture of the individual concerned. We recognise it can be an inconvenience to remove a crash helmet but believe it will not result in the distress which might arise for a lady obliged to remove her veil in public.

Therefore, we think our current approach is inclusive strikes the right balance between respect for a different tradition and other considerations. Where a customer has covered their face, except for religious or cultural reasons, they should be asked politely and respectfully to remove the covering.

I hope this now answers your question.

I look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience.
Kind regards

Claire Jenkins
Tesco Customer Service

Dear Claire

I find your reply selective, biking is a religion to anybody who partakes & wearing a helmet forms an essential part of that religion, not only that it is law that anybody riding a two wheeled motorised vehicle on public roads wears a helmet.
I would be grateful if you could tell me where you provide a safe & secure storage place for my helmet, should the said helmet get damaged or stolen then I would be unable to continue my journey, under these circumstances would your policy take responsibility for me continuing my journey & replacing my very expensive helmet?

If a motorcycle pulls up at the pumps & the rider dismounts, removes the pump & places the nozzle in the petrol tank I think it safe to assume that he/she is not intending to rob or intimidate your staff, you will find that even though he/she is wearing a helmet they will still make good eye contact with your cashier & give them a cheery smile, most likely exchange some friendly words or banter whilst paying.
On the remote chance that they drive away without paying then you have their registration number just as you do with a car in the same situation,

Kind regards
Mr D Kelly

 

[Saffie]

Funnily enough Derek when I had the fight with the local stores I used the helmet getting damaged line and are you taking responsibility as I have nowhere to put it.....very quickly backed down. They tried using the (guys wearing crash helmets robbed us) I said oh when did this happen? Not very often its actually very rare...so when did this happen? no reply...so I simply asked have you been robbed by someone wearing a hoody before? Yes oh but you can keep a hoody on..bla bla...bunch of wankers personally I fill up where I do not need to remove my lid. It is out of principle and for you fair weather bikers try put a helmet on in the winter with all the gear you need to make yourself not freeze to death and get soaked to the bone and avoid visor being fogged up in 30 seconds it takes you to take off a lid.

I vaguely remembered morrisons actually saying that it was health and safety to remove lid cause of fumes going into the helmet causing bikers to pass out...then they changed to robbery once they got challenged to provide evidence.

 

[karlos2000]

Dont think I have small man syndrome, I'm 6'4

bet I could still have ya ..... ;-0))

 

[Saffie]

If plod pulls you over, he will immediately ask you to take your helmet off, in ALL weathers. Would anyone ask him if he'd ask a Muslim to take off his/her headwear? Because up till that point he may just be about to give you a warning. Personally, I think you'd all be "yes officer, no officer, three bags full officer". Who cares if someone asks you to take off your bloody helmet, be the bigger person, accept it may be company policy, and oblige. No big deal.

Oggy stands by to duck!!!!


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Been pulled a few times never asked to take off lid :-0)

 

[derek kelly]

Where can you safely put your crash helmet when filling up?
No room on the pump & if there was the vibration would make it fall.
On the bike seat? It could fall off.
On the handlebars? Did this once & it fell off.
On the floor Amongst all the spilt diesel? That would really make for a pleasant journey.

The only answer is to secure it to the helmet fastener on your bike making sure that it is securely locked in place, on some bikes this means removing the seat, so by the time you have pulled up at the pump, dismounted, unlocked your topbox & removed a suitable piece of plastic or a bin bag etc, placed it on the floor then unlocked & removed your seat & placed it on the plastic so as not to get diesel on it, then secured your helmet, then replaced the seat & put the plastic into a seperate bag & back into the top box then filled up & gone to pay, then come out & do it in reverse you should have a nice line of pissed off motorists waiting to refuel.

 

[derek kelly]

Funnily enough Derek when I had the fight with the local stores I used the helmet getting damaged line and are you taking responsibility as I have nowhere to put it.....very quickly backed down. They tried using the (guys wearing crash helmets robbed us) I said oh when did this happen? Not very often its actually very rare...so when did this happen? no reply...so I simply asked have you been robbed by someone wearing a hoody before? Yes oh but you can keep a hoody on..bla bla...bunch of wankers personally I fill up where I do not need to remove my lid. It is out of principle and for you fair weather bikers try put a helmet on in the winter with all the gear you need to make yourself not freeze to death and get soaked to the bone and avoid visor being fogged up in 30 seconds it takes you to take off a lid.

I vaguely remembered morrisons actually saying that it was health and safety to remove lid cause of fumes going into the helmet causing bikers to pass out...then they changed to robbery once they got challenged to provide evidence.

The owner of the station in Hull that I earlier referred to stated it was to prevent robberies, I asked him if he'd ever been robbed by anyone wearing a crash helmet, he said "That's beside the point" I then asked him about Muslems & Bhurkas, he replied "We don't get them round here" :wank:

 

[Wolfie]

I wasn't rude to anyone, I just put my point across as you have done.

Except I haven't been rude and abusive ain doing so, unlike you, you tree-hugging, hippy, lefty, cock-sucking poof.

Havent you?

 

[Pow-Lo]

Havent you?

No, I haven't.

 

[Wolfie]

Wolfie read your post again mate...They ask for it to be removed to avoid causing distress it is not policy that you cant have it on...I did phone these guys and did ask them exactly what the rules were

But they can refuse to serve you if you keep it on

 

[derek kelly]

But they can refuse to serve you if you keep it on

So they are allowed to discriminate?