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Welcome to the new B.I.R.D. Forum. Please be sure to read the "New Member / New Registered ? Please Read" thread in the Coffee Shop. This contains some important information. To become a full member ( £5.90 a year ) simply click on your user name near the top on the right I hope you enjoy the new site ................ Jaws ( John )
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RHINO
Answering to nobody
I almost always get off and haul the old BB onto the centre stand, i never sit astride it as i'm feared of slipping and having it crash on top of me with the fuel pissing all over me, thats just my way of doing things though.
As for filling up else where, if TESCO is on hand when i ned fuel then TESCO i shall fuel up at, i'n not cruising about looking for a different outlet.
In fairness to TESCO they do seem to be listening to me as opposed to fobbing me off.
I got bloody 22 litres of juice in the BIRD yesterday, i think i was near to running out, also got 160 miles before the light came on and that was flying down to Brum and back (not slowly either)
As for filling up else where, if TESCO is on hand when i ned fuel then TESCO i shall fuel up at, i'n not cruising about looking for a different outlet.
In fairness to TESCO they do seem to be listening to me as opposed to fobbing me off.
I got bloody 22 litres of juice in the BIRD yesterday, i think i was near to running out, also got 160 miles before the light came on and that was flying down to Brum and back (not slowly either)
Lumpy, there is proly no real difference at all to be honest, but given that the average desk jockey johnny working at Sainsburys is unlikely to know that the argument was used to good effect 
Oh and cheers DB .. So thats two of us for a class action .. we only need another 18 now !
Oh and I just checked.. It would properly be called contract by inference
Oh and cheers DB .. So thats two of us for a class action .. we only need another 18 now !
Oh and I just checked.. It would properly be called contract by inference
Gatso shy
Registered User
Signs......
When I go to Tesco'd for me gas.....
there's a big sign on the door that say's
PULL and I alway's do the other
so what chance, 8l1nd
of me,
observing the little sign that say's
helmet..............etc.......
Plus there's also sign's
along the road, that say / imply (cos they don't talk) g0551p
30, 40, 50, ?70
I just put a one in front of all of 'em...........
that work's for me.................yee ha R#?
When I go to Tesco'd for me gas.....
there's a big sign on the door that say's
PULL and I alway's do the other
so what chance, 8l1nd
of me,
observing the little sign that say's
helmet..............etc.......
Plus there's also sign's
along the road, that say / imply (cos they don't talk) g0551p
30, 40, 50, ?70
I just put a one in front of all of 'em...........
that work's for me.................yee ha R#?
T
tailgator
Guest
Jaws said
"It is exactly that, curtesy, which demands we as motorcyclists are not marginalised. As a matter of interest Tailgator, how often do you have to wear big thick gloves, inner gloves, neck roll and maybe a balaclava under your bash hat.
If all you have to do is whip a hat off then sure, I doubt many folk would argue the toss.. except for the compulsion side of the issue..
You should understand that for years the state has been telling brits what to do.. We now live in a tightly controlled nanny state.. as such the popuation is starting to kick back against the ever increasing rules and regs put upon us, sp when a PLC starts dictating what we can and cannot do as well as the govt., you can almost guarantee a kick back !"
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Preparing for the flamming of the decade...but here goes....
No Jaws, I wear crash hat, large jacket no matter how hot it is (it has to be large!), balaclava in winter, neck roll and a large set of leather gloves and sometimes inner gloves - it may not freeze over here but I am quite often riding at 11pm on country road at -4 temps in winter (thats centigrade for all the people stuck in the 20th century) and more. Please don't make assumptions based on myth. If you refuse to take your helmet off over here you can be sure of not getting service or a knock on the door that night or the next day from the friendly boys in blue - it is a police state here for motorcyclists - there is a definate policy of discouraging motorcycling - motorcyclists in Qld/NSW and Vic know as much (or possibly even more) as you guys do. You guys have rights - we don't - the police can reverse over us at the lights and successfully claim it is our fault and then claim for damage to their vehicle...thats how bad it is.
As for removing helmets - its a little thing to do and if you don't want to make enemies of the staff and local community why not just do it? - and before I cop some more ignorant comments about overseas riders not having any idea - don't forget - I have ridden in Southampton (where my parents came from - yes bloody southerners) in winter so I do have some idea of the conditions.
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*On another unrelated point - Jaws - what address (not email address) can I send the money to to become a full member - I cannot make the other section work so I will need to send you the dosh? Can you tell me exactly how much and the address and I will see to it within the next week.
"It is exactly that, curtesy, which demands we as motorcyclists are not marginalised. As a matter of interest Tailgator, how often do you have to wear big thick gloves, inner gloves, neck roll and maybe a balaclava under your bash hat.
If all you have to do is whip a hat off then sure, I doubt many folk would argue the toss.. except for the compulsion side of the issue..
You should understand that for years the state has been telling brits what to do.. We now live in a tightly controlled nanny state.. as such the popuation is starting to kick back against the ever increasing rules and regs put upon us, sp when a PLC starts dictating what we can and cannot do as well as the govt., you can almost guarantee a kick back !"
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Preparing for the flamming of the decade...but here goes....
No Jaws, I wear crash hat, large jacket no matter how hot it is (it has to be large!), balaclava in winter, neck roll and a large set of leather gloves and sometimes inner gloves - it may not freeze over here but I am quite often riding at 11pm on country road at -4 temps in winter (thats centigrade for all the people stuck in the 20th century) and more. Please don't make assumptions based on myth. If you refuse to take your helmet off over here you can be sure of not getting service or a knock on the door that night or the next day from the friendly boys in blue - it is a police state here for motorcyclists - there is a definate policy of discouraging motorcycling - motorcyclists in Qld/NSW and Vic know as much (or possibly even more) as you guys do. You guys have rights - we don't - the police can reverse over us at the lights and successfully claim it is our fault and then claim for damage to their vehicle...thats how bad it is.
As for removing helmets - its a little thing to do and if you don't want to make enemies of the staff and local community why not just do it? - and before I cop some more ignorant comments about overseas riders not having any idea - don't forget - I have ridden in Southampton (where my parents came from - yes bloody southerners) in winter so I do have some idea of the conditions.
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*On another unrelated point - Jaws - what address (not email address) can I send the money to to become a full member - I cannot make the other section work so I will need to send you the dosh? Can you tell me exactly how much and the address and I will see to it within the next week.
RHINO
Answering to nobody
tailgator said:
Fair comment, you've ridden in Southampton, you must be a hardened biker then.
When you ride 20k a year and have to re fuel every 120 miles then thats 166 times in the year putting fuel in. Add to that the initial putting it on, getting it right and comfy, making sure there are NO draughts etc.
Its not JUST the removal of the helmet which is pissing us off, its the Pigeon holeing that they do to us, treating us all like 2nd class citizens and people like YOU help them do it.. People like YOU who would rather bury their head in the sand and let it go than speak up. Well when your government start imposing more regs etc i hope you'll see why i'm making a fuss..
How would you feel if we said ALL OZZY's WERE THIEVING SCUM.... after all, it wasn't long back that it was just a dumping ground for convicted criminals.
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skippy
Guest
And now it has gone full circle :bang:RHINO said:
ianrobbo1
good looking AND modest
Tailgater, if we dont make a stand now on this issue, and others like it, WE will soon be in the position you have stated in your post, if not in a worse one, cos this goverment has the "give an inch take a mile" attitude and they WILL shove it up us all if everyone adopts the attitude you are trying to instigate and rolls over for them to do it, :dunno:
little Acorns and stuff,!! :dunno:
little Acorns and stuff,!! :dunno:
The difference is Ian it isn't the Government imposing this rule it is Tesco's, and as owners of the petrol stations it is their prerogative to do so, they have a duty of care to their employees, and if enough of them have said that they feel threatened or frightened by people coming towards them with helmets on then they are acting correctly in imposing this rule,
Four years ago when the fuel strike was on the petrol station at the bottom of St Michaels had a sign saying 'Asian Taxi Drivers only' that is blatant racism but what was done absolutely nothing, however not many non Asians use that station compared to the numbers that used it before,
As someone previously said if you are not happy go somewhere else.
Four years ago when the fuel strike was on the petrol station at the bottom of St Michaels had a sign saying 'Asian Taxi Drivers only' that is blatant racism but what was done absolutely nothing, however not many non Asians use that station compared to the numbers that used it before,
As someone previously said if you are not happy go somewhere else.
tailgator said:
Well is used to be a simple matter... Folk could send me the lolly, I could pay it to Wiz and upgrade the account..
Nowadays this is simply not possible.
I would suggest you email Wiz who should be able to assist.. You can tell him that I am happy to assist with money transers etc if need be.
Wiz's email addy is mail@keithphillips.com
S
Stealth Rider
Guest
Fill up/remove helmet
and bet it has nothing to do with employees feeling threatened, more that tescos, sainsbury's want to take your photograph with there cctv!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saisbury's in Worcester have now started asking for helmet removal, TWATSianrobbo1 said:I don't fill up at Tesco`s, but at either sainsburys, or my local BP on Donny road, I have never been asked to remove my "lid" at sainsburys, but have at the BP, whereupon I said certainly, if they didn't want me as a customer again as Ive been using that station for over 4 years and if they didn't recognise me now then they didn't deserve my custom, since then never a peep, they even let me drive off once when I had forgotten my wallet, :bang:
and yes I did come straight back and pay them,
and bet it has nothing to do with employees feeling threatened, more that tescos, sainsbury's want to take your photograph with there cctv!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ianrobbo1
good looking AND modest
if they want my photo that badly Ill send em a picture!!Stealth Rider said:
save em the trouble of losing me as a customer,!! :rant: HHMMMmmm maybe thats what they want??? no motorcyclists/bikers mucking up their nice shiny forcourts,!!!
wonder if they would adopt an "attitude" if our fuel tanks held 100ltrs each time we filled up,??
S
Stealth Rider
Guest
Your picture only in compromising positions I expectianrobbo1 said:if they want my photo that badly Ill send em a picture!!
HHMMMmmm maybe thats what they want??? no motorcyclists/bikers mucking up their nice shiny forcourts,!!!
wonder if they would adopt an "attitude" if our fuel tanks held 100ltrs each time we filled up,??
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tailgator
Guest
Quote: "Fair comment, you've ridden in Southampton, you must be a hardened biker then.
When you ride 20k a year and have to re fuel every 120 miles then thats 166 times in the year putting fuel in. Add to that the initial putting it on, getting it right and comfy, making sure there are NO draughts etc.
Its not JUST the removal of the helmet which is pissing us off, its the Pigeon holeing that they do to us, treating us all like 2nd class citizens and people like YOU help them do it.. People like YOU who would rather bury their head in the sand and let it go than speak up. Well when your government start imposing more regs etc i hope you'll see why i'm making a fuss..
How would you feel if we said ALL OZZY's WERE THIEVING SCUM.... after all, it wasn't long back that it was just a dumping ground for convicted criminals."
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Ah Rhino, the clear thinking voice of reason again....not. The fact that you can only resort to insults etc suggests that you have no real argument. I simply suggested that the comment about other riders from other countries do have some idea - it gets just as cold or colder in the US - just ask some of the US members if you are game.
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"How would you feel if we said ALL OZZY's WERE THIEVING SCUM.... after all, it wasn't long back that it was just a dumping ground for convicted criminals."
People come up with it say it all the time so you won't get me or any other Australian hot under the collar with that one - and I might point out that you actually did write it - not just suggest it. As for not standing up for rights etc - I suggest you read a few other posts - You are arguing about some company's rule - not a government position. I have taken part in plenty of action - groups like the MRAQ are the reason motorcyclists still exist in Australia. As for not speaking up I have had to take part in several 'investigations' against certain policeman and officials who don't know how to behave, even though I knew I would be blackmarked by the boys in blue and their 'union'. Thats why I get license checked with the full treatment by the boys every ride - and I knew that would happen when I testified. You are not the only person who has these experiences - get over it or do as many other people have said: Send the complaint, send the paperwork and make it public, but just don't go back to Tesco's. Maybe Tesco's won't get the message but the other petrol providers will.
Quote:"Fair comment, you've ridden in Southampton, you must be a hardened biker then.
When you ride 20k a year and have to re fuel every 120 miles then thats 166 times in the year putting fuel in"
As you have decided to make this personal, I never said that I'm a hardened biker - just that I do have some idea of the conditions. Do you really think that the above conditions differ from any other rider. My father was the hardened biker - he rode at all times during the year, without helmets or jackets and did not have access to cars - no headlight (he had to keep up with the cars on his Red Hunter) he just had to be at work no matter what the conditions or how dangerous the road or bike was. Now THAT is a hardened biker - not me OR you. As for the riding 20k a year - why did you buy a bike if your not going use it much? For me it can be 45kilometer trip just to get fuel or just the shopping (no petrol stations in between) and the distances between localities is MUCH further. If I do under 30k a year it wouldn't be much less. I might add that due to my job I drive well over 100,000 kays a year so I would fill up FAR more often than you on both counts. An average trip for me is over 400kays unless I am going to work when it can vary from 20kays to 100kays one way.
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Quote: "Add to that the initial putting it on, getting it right and comfy, making sure there are NO draughts etc.
Its not JUST the removal of the helmet "
You poor little boy, life is so tough... :violin: :violin: :violin: %$fan Do you really think its any different for any other rider?
My point is that the reason the public perceive us to be so bad is the way we sometimes react to a simple request - "please take your helmet off before you pay" - as another member has already said, if you consider it, it's not that much of a request.
If you want a REAL argument go on to the US cbr list - they will give you a much more lively argument than I will - believe it or not I try not to get into these arguments.
Its ok Rhino - I still love you but would you mind using vaseline next time?
When you ride 20k a year and have to re fuel every 120 miles then thats 166 times in the year putting fuel in. Add to that the initial putting it on, getting it right and comfy, making sure there are NO draughts etc.
Its not JUST the removal of the helmet which is pissing us off, its the Pigeon holeing that they do to us, treating us all like 2nd class citizens and people like YOU help them do it.. People like YOU who would rather bury their head in the sand and let it go than speak up. Well when your government start imposing more regs etc i hope you'll see why i'm making a fuss..
How would you feel if we said ALL OZZY's WERE THIEVING SCUM.... after all, it wasn't long back that it was just a dumping ground for convicted criminals."
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Ah Rhino, the clear thinking voice of reason again....not. The fact that you can only resort to insults etc suggests that you have no real argument. I simply suggested that the comment about other riders from other countries do have some idea - it gets just as cold or colder in the US - just ask some of the US members if you are game.
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"How would you feel if we said ALL OZZY's WERE THIEVING SCUM.... after all, it wasn't long back that it was just a dumping ground for convicted criminals."
People come up with it say it all the time so you won't get me or any other Australian hot under the collar with that one - and I might point out that you actually did write it - not just suggest it. As for not standing up for rights etc - I suggest you read a few other posts - You are arguing about some company's rule - not a government position. I have taken part in plenty of action - groups like the MRAQ are the reason motorcyclists still exist in Australia. As for not speaking up I have had to take part in several 'investigations' against certain policeman and officials who don't know how to behave, even though I knew I would be blackmarked by the boys in blue and their 'union'. Thats why I get license checked with the full treatment by the boys every ride - and I knew that would happen when I testified. You are not the only person who has these experiences - get over it or do as many other people have said: Send the complaint, send the paperwork and make it public, but just don't go back to Tesco's. Maybe Tesco's won't get the message but the other petrol providers will.
Quote:"Fair comment, you've ridden in Southampton, you must be a hardened biker then.
When you ride 20k a year and have to re fuel every 120 miles then thats 166 times in the year putting fuel in"
As you have decided to make this personal, I never said that I'm a hardened biker - just that I do have some idea of the conditions. Do you really think that the above conditions differ from any other rider. My father was the hardened biker - he rode at all times during the year, without helmets or jackets and did not have access to cars - no headlight (he had to keep up with the cars on his Red Hunter) he just had to be at work no matter what the conditions or how dangerous the road or bike was. Now THAT is a hardened biker - not me OR you. As for the riding 20k a year - why did you buy a bike if your not going use it much? For me it can be 45kilometer trip just to get fuel or just the shopping (no petrol stations in between) and the distances between localities is MUCH further. If I do under 30k a year it wouldn't be much less. I might add that due to my job I drive well over 100,000 kays a year so I would fill up FAR more often than you on both counts. An average trip for me is over 400kays unless I am going to work when it can vary from 20kays to 100kays one way.
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Quote: "Add to that the initial putting it on, getting it right and comfy, making sure there are NO draughts etc.
Its not JUST the removal of the helmet "
You poor little boy, life is so tough... :violin: :violin: :violin: %$fan Do you really think its any different for any other rider?
My point is that the reason the public perceive us to be so bad is the way we sometimes react to a simple request - "please take your helmet off before you pay" - as another member has already said, if you consider it, it's not that much of a request.
If you want a REAL argument go on to the US cbr list - they will give you a much more lively argument than I will - believe it or not I try not to get into these arguments.
Its ok Rhino - I still love you but would you mind using vaseline next time?
RHINO
Answering to nobody
Tailgator......
It wasn't a sign saying 'PLEASE remove it before paying' it was a signing ORDERING the removal!!
The reason for the request is why i kicked off not merely the fact that it was an order..!
The manager was making out that people with helmets on are the ones responsible for robberies!!
As for the weather / mileage etc, yeh you may do more miles than me but weigh up the circs, your on open roads i suspect with a far better climate than we have in Northern England..........my riding is done in rain, hale stone, and all other elements in congested suburbs so again i suspect i may have my fat arse on the bike for as much time as yourself.
Yes, it is courtesy to remove the helmet IF the conditions allow it without causing too much desruption to my other gear, the staff in the station are not bothered about the helmet but the manager IS....
Whats the crack with the vaseline :dunno: is that Austrailian humour at its best????????? No wonder Barry Humphries only appears on Parkinson these days, no other fooker finds him funny... :f
It wasn't a sign saying 'PLEASE remove it before paying' it was a signing ORDERING the removal!!
The reason for the request is why i kicked off not merely the fact that it was an order..!
The manager was making out that people with helmets on are the ones responsible for robberies!!
As for the weather / mileage etc, yeh you may do more miles than me but weigh up the circs, your on open roads i suspect with a far better climate than we have in Northern England..........my riding is done in rain, hale stone, and all other elements in congested suburbs so again i suspect i may have my fat arse on the bike for as much time as yourself.
Yes, it is courtesy to remove the helmet IF the conditions allow it without causing too much desruption to my other gear, the staff in the station are not bothered about the helmet but the manager IS....
Whats the crack with the vaseline :dunno: is that Austrailian humour at its best????????? No wonder Barry Humphries only appears on Parkinson these days, no other fooker finds him funny... :f
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BlackBirdBaz
Guest
I think the weather plays a huge part in 'whether to remove or not' I know in the summer here when temps top at least 60 degrees F I am pleased to release fluids from my helmet!!
The other 10 months of the year however my helmet stays firmly in place unless I am tempted by one of the nice cappuccino machines that seem to be on the increase in filling stations nowadays.
There?s room for an incentive here for garage owners, free hot drinks if you can put your helmet on the counter !!
Right I am off to polish mine right now ready for its next outing.
The other 10 months of the year however my helmet stays firmly in place unless I am tempted by one of the nice cappuccino machines that seem to be on the increase in filling stations nowadays.
There?s room for an incentive here for garage owners, free hot drinks if you can put your helmet on the counter !!
Right I am off to polish mine right now ready for its next outing.
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BlackBirdBaz
Guest
lol, just short of money now after buying it and getting lost on Amazon buying Xmas pressies.blumeeni said:Fekin ell you must be really short