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[Barrie]

hope yer pointy hats are clean and white.:bang:

Different issue I think. As bad as these people are, I don't think they compare with what's going now. This country has been let down by leftie do gooders and it's time for change. Try preaching hatred in a Muslim country and see how long you last. Religion has always been the cause of trouble and it's not getting any better.

 

[Barrie]

The easiest way to defeat them is to deny them colum inches and media time. This event showed when they could have escaped, they stayed waiting for the police but mostly for people to you tube their message.

Remove the message and it will not be seen as a thing to do. The problem therein lies with so many media outlets and everyone wanting to get an exclusive over the other, that none would hold to a ban on promoting these acts by coverage.

So, denying the public knowing will help, will it?

 

[Ozlaw]

So the two women who were doing something (One comforting the soldier) the other one challenging one of the scum, got other people killed or injured did they?. It's your job to do that, what your paid for. Not hide around the corner watching two women do your job for you.

There you go making it personal using large generalising sweeping statements. Unless you were there with them, you do not know what the officers were doing or what information they had at the time. To simply offer themselves up for slaughter would not help the dead man, and may have caused the further general public to be caught up by the level of aggression of the suspects being raised again by the arrival of a uniform prior to having a means of stopping them ie. firearms.

 

[Barrie]

There you go making it personal using large generalising sweeping statements. I was not there, so nobody was doing my job for me thanks. You do not know what the officers were doing or what information they had at the time. To simply offer themselves up for slaughter would not help the dead man, and may have caused the further general public to be caught up by the level of aggression of the suspects being raised again by the arrival of a uniform prior to having a means of stopping them ie. firearms.

A case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. I wouldn't want to be in a police officer's boots in a situation like that. Those women deserve a medal though.

 

[Tinytim]

There you go making it personal using large generalising sweeping statements. I was not there, so nobody was doing my job for me thanks. You do not know what the officers were doing or what information they had at the time. To simply offer themselves up for slaughter would not help the dead man, and may have caused the further general public to be caught up by the level of aggression of the suspects being raised again by the arrival of a uniform prior to having a means of stopping them ie. firearms.

Fooks sakes Ozlaw. I'd expect better of someone like you being drawn into Gary and his trolling. Surely you should have learnt by now not to take any notice of that ladyparts? He seems a nice enough bloke, but he's a bit of a dense ladyparts too bless 'im.


@tu*

 

[Ozlaw]

Fooks sakes Ozlaw. I'd expect better of someone like you being drawn into Gary and his trolling. Surely you should have learnt by now not to take any notice of that ladyparts? He seems a nice enough bloke, but he's a bit of a dense ladyparts too bless 'im.


@tu*

Can't stand a stuck record I guess

 

[Ozlaw]

A case of damned if you do and damned if you don't. I wouldn't want to be in a police officer's boots in a situation like that. Those women deserve a medal though.

A horrific day for all involved, and sadly it's only just begun for the family of Lee Rigby. I for one will be putting my hand in my pocket for a few extra quid towards help for heroes

 

[noobie]

So, denying the public knowing will help, will it?

I feel so, yes. So I have to ask you why not? There is a big difference between the public knowing and the multi day media frenzy giving these despicable scum the airtime they sought at all costs.

The act of killing that soldier was secondary, a means to an end if you will. Killers over the last few years in particular seem to be courting social media more and more with the victim dying almost inconsequential.

A good example perhaps is brevik, look how many kids he killed and then he chose to stay alive so he could spout his poison but the authorities have almost blanketed him out of the medias way so not to give him
two victories, one by the act and two by the media frenzy/circus there after.

Remove that ability to promote poison through the media in these type of madman killings and I feel confident they will become less having had the audience taken away

 

[Barrie]

I feel so, yes. So I have to ask you why not? There is a big difference between the public knowing and the multi day media frenzy giving these despicable scum the airtime they sought at all costs.

The act of killing that soldier was secondary, a means to an end if you will. Killers over the last few years in particular seem to be courting social media more and more with the victim dying almost inconsequential.

A good example perhaps is brevik, look how many kids he killed and then he chose to stay alive so he could spout his poison but the authorities have almost blanketed him out of the medias way so not to give him
two victories, one by the act and two by the media frenzy/circus there after.

Remove that ability to promote poison through the media in these type of madman killings and I feel confident they will become less having had the audience taken away

I agree to an extent but hide what's going on from the public and we are in danger of becoming a communist state.

 

[derek kelly]

You will probably find that the reported cases are few compared to the amount taking place, there will be many with a D notice on them which the press are not allowed to report.

 

[gary301161]

Australian Prime Minister does it again!! This woman should be appointed Queen of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken.!Prime Minister Julia Gillard- Australia:Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:!'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It.I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. ''This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom''We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .... Learn the language!''Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.''We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.''This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted

 

[Creo]

Australian Prime Minister does it again!! This woman should be appointed Queen of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken.!Prime Minister Julia Gillard- Australia:Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:!'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It.I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. ''This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom''We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .... Learn the language!''Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.''We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.''This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted

Great sentiment if only our government would do the same.

 

[killerhaggis]

Australian Prime Minister does it again!! This woman should be appointed Queen of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken.!Prime Minister Julia Gillard- Australia:Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:!'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT.. Take It Or Leave It.I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. ''This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom''We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society .... Learn the language!''Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.''We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.''This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.' 'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted

been done here

 

[gypsy]

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.shtml

 

[McMuckles]

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/howard-muslim-speech.shtml

Yep, it's a hoax, but it will be continued to be spread by those that wish to believe it.


As an aside, I do think that Australia has a sensible immigration policy, where they are selective based on the economic/skills needs of the country rather than an immigration policy like we have here that it is driven by the rich to satisfy their need for the cheapest labour to increase profit.

The system that Australia has, if they need mining engineers, they go to the top of the wanted list is sensible, so apart from the need of the rich to exploit cheap labour, why do we need so many unqualified immigrants

Because we have a group of people sitting around doing nothing, who are quite capable of washing dishes and cleaning toilets, but think it is beneath them (well they should have went to school then) who can lie in bed until midday,collect benefits, buy cheap cider, watch reality TV, then at night pull on a balaclava with EDL sewn on it and keep those who have work to go to in the morning up by throwing bottles at the Police because the immigrants have taken their JOB!

 

[McMuckles]

Fooks sakes Ozlaw. I'd expect better of someone like you being drawn into Gary and his trolling. Surely you should have learnt by now not to take any notice of that ladyparts? He seems a nice enough bloke, but he's a bit of a dense ladyparts too bless 'im.


@tu*

The more I read of Gary's mis guided postings, the more I think that a girlfriend of his, ran away with a muslim policeman

 

[Tinytim]

Ya mean Gary does it again

Australian Prime Minister does it again!! This woman should be appointed Queen of the World.. Truer words have never been spoken.......

Jeez Gary, you never cease to amaze me with your shit in the past, but even more so on this thread. As has been pointed out, the claptrap you copy and pasted has been out and about for yonks. The most worrying thing though is that (a) you've only just fekkin seen this and (b) you've actually searched for shit like this to post here in the first place. What search do you do on Google ...."mindless fekkin bilge" ? Hmm, I think I'll go try it. @tu*

 

[gypsy]

Jeez Gary, you never cease to amaze me with your shit in the past, but even more so on this thread. As has been pointed out, the claptrap you copy and pasted has been out and about for yonks. The most worrying thing though is that (a) you've only just fekkin seen this and (b) you've actually searched for shit like this to post here in the first place. What search do you do on Google ...."mindless fekkin bilge" ? Hmm, I think I'll go try it. @tu*

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...ilge&aqs=chrome.0.57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[gary301161]

Jeez Gary, you never cease to amaze me with your shit in the past, but even more so on this thread. As has been pointed out, the claptrap you copy and pasted has been out and about for yonks. The most worrying thing though is that (a) you've only just fekkin seen this and (b) you've actually searched for shit like this to post here in the first place. What search do you do on Google ...."mindless fekkin bilge" ? Hmm, I think I'll go try it. @tu*

No sorry did no researh, just saw it and thought isn't that great, a leader who finally respects their own country. A. A shame it's a hoax. B. Why can't one of our politicians stand up and say it?. Stupid question I know.

 

[Dark Angel]

A. A shame it's a hoax. B. Why can't one of our politicians stand up and say it?. Stupid question I know.

Arrr? A + B = 2 ?Dunnit? ;-0))