• Welcome to the new B.I.R.D. Forum. Please be sure to read the "New Member / New Registered ? Please Read" thread in the Coffee Shop. This contains some important information. To become a full member ( £5.90 a year ) simply click on your user name near the top on the right I hope you enjoy the new site ................ Jaws ( John )

Woolwich

  • Thread starter Boggymarsh
  • Start date
G

gary301161

Guest
does that apply to Christians as well?
When have we in recent history hacked people to death in the streets?. Only thing we are guilty of is trying to drag the muslims godforsaken shitholes of countries into the civilised world, where women are not killed for alleged affairs, school girls aren't shot on school bus's for daring to want to learn. And of course the man's right to have his women circumcised. Besides do you think you would be allowed to do any sort of disagreeing if the muslim shits were in charge?. Your not living in a fantasy fluffy world, sometimes you have to fight for your way of life.
 
O

Ozlaw

Guest
Sounds about right.

So should the unarmed officers have challenged the two men that had just beheaded the poor lad in the street? Because I thought that the reports said that as soon as the armed officers arrived they charged with the weapons they did have, and the police shot them straight off...
 
G

gary301161

Guest
So should the unarmed officers have challenged the two men that had just beheaded the poor lad in the street? Because I thought that the reports said that as soon as the armed officers arrived they charged with the weapons they did have, and the police shot them straight off...
Days gone by when police were men. they wouldn't have thought twice about it. Didn't stop a couple of unarmed women challenging them did it?.
 
J

jontheone

Guest
gary would have tackled them singlehandedly (?) and probably got himself and other byestanders killed or injured that were talking/standing near to them.

or maybe he would just post something derogatory after the event.

i dont believe any other persons were injured after the unfortunate murder of the soldier and the armed police when they got there shot the attackers.

the amount of time it took armed police to get to the scene i am sure is an issue. probably a staffing issue.

have you tried waiting for an ambulance recently!
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
When have we in recent history hacked people to death in the streets?. Only thing we are guilty of is trying to drag the muslims godforsaken shitholes of countries into the civilised world, where women are not killed for alleged affairs, school girls aren't shot on school bus's for daring to want to learn. And of course the man's right to have his women circumcised. Besides do you think you would be allowed to do any sort of disagreeing if the muslim shits were in charge?. Your not living in a fantasy fluffy world, sometimes you have to fight for your way of life.

first of all who is this we you speak off?

who gave us the right to "drag the muslims godforsaken shitholes of countries into the civilised world"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...d-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html?fb

we kill each other every day here, our kids are kidnapped and murder by british people, thieves here get let off, murders kill their own children and get 20 years or so, what makes you so sure we are better than anybodyelse? dont forget they are british born Nigerians so apart from the muslims should all nigerians, blacks or even british be made to suffer the consequences. or should be that those who committed the crime should suffer and nobody else?
 
G

gary301161

Guest
gary would have tackled them singlehandedly (?) and probably got himself and other byestanders killed or injured that were talking/standing near to them.

or maybe he would just post something derogatory after the event.

i dont believe any other persons were injured after the unfortunate murder of the soldier and the armed police when they got there shot the attackers.

the amount of time it took armed police to get to the scene i am sure is an issue. probably a staffing issue.

have you tried waiting for an ambulance recently!

So the two women who were doing something (One comforting the soldier) the other one challenging one of the scum, got other people killed or injured did they?. It's your job to do that, what your paid for. Not hide around the corner watching two women do your job for you.
 
M

McMuckles

Guest
So should the unarmed officers have challenged the two men that had just beheaded the poor lad in the street? Because I thought that the reports said that as soon as the armed officers arrived they charged with the weapons they did have, and the police shot them straight off...

That would be the same officers, who last night got pelted with bottles by the country's saviours
the EDL

My ref to Police being around the corner and was it their decision to sit tight or was it their commanders, was based on a similar brutal murder of two soldiers in NI, when a patrol of Scottish soldiers were told from above not to intervene due to likelihood of escalating the situation
 
G

gary301161

Guest
first of all who is this we you speak off?

who gave us the right to "drag the muslims godforsaken shitholes of countries into the civilised world"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...d-for-stabbing-10-year-old-Afghan-boy.html?fb

we kill each other every day here, our kids are kidnapped and murder by british people, thieves here get let off, murders kill their own children and get 20 years or so, what makes you so sure we are better than anybodyelse? dont forget they are british born Nigerians so apart from the muslims should all nigerians, blacks or even british be made to suffer the consequences. or should be that those who committed the crime should suffer and nobody else?
Let's see how you feel when you have to take your daughter or Granddaughter to the local Imam for circumcision.
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
Club Sponsor
I am sure there will be a backlash to this however the wrong people will be targetted, what will be achieved by burning Mosques other than to alienate the genuine Muslims.
How many times do people start a sentence "I'm not racist but..." & then spout vile racist hatred? the war is against terrorism, not all Muslims are terrorists.
In my experience the worst Muslims are the white converts who try to buck the system.
 
M

McMuckles

Guest
Something I noticed when the ladyparts was ranting on tv
He said "soldiers are killing muslims in our country" then said tell your goverment to bring
*our* soldiers home ????
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
Let's see how you feel when you have to take your daughter or Granddaughter to the local Imam for circumcision.

no answer to my questions?

does your statement also apply to 600 or so muslims who are serving in the armed forces?

what about irish catholics are they all ira?

dont forget the jews who were shooting british soldiers just after ww2?
 
G

gary301161

Guest
I am sure there will be a backlash to this however the wrong people will be targetted, what will be achieved by burning Mosques other than to alienate the genuine Muslims.
How many times do people start a sentence "I'm not racist but..." & then spout vile racist hatred? the war is against terrorism, not all Muslims are terrorists.
In my experience the worst Muslims are the white converts who try to buck the system.
Would love to agree with you, but the muslins know who all the activists are, and they must give them all up, otherwise they are all tarred with the same brush. They must root out all these scum. Then they can be invited into this country.
 
G

gary301161

Guest
no answer to my questions?

does your statement also apply to 600 or so muslims who are serving in the armed forces?
You can't just fire questions, sooner or later you have to decide. Are you a apologist willing to bend over and bite the desk while your shafted, or do you stand up for your country and yourself?. Wow 600 muslims in the armed forces. What a magnificent proportion compared to the amount of the muslims living in this country.
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
Club Sponsor
So the two women who were doing something (One comforting the soldier)

The soldier was almost beheaded, what comfort could she give? maybe she was a typical morbid onlooker.
the other one challenging one of the scum,
Bravery or stupidity, depends on your perspective.
got other people killed or injured did they?.

Fortunately not on this occasion but could so easily have done.
It's your job to do that, what your paid for. Not hide around the corner watching two women do your job for you.

Would you do your job without the correct tools?
Had the UNARMED (there's a clue there) police intervened then there is a very good chance there would be more than one person lying dead in the street.
Look at the facts, the soldier was already dead, armed police were on their way, the unarmed police would have been told to wait but possibly cause a distraction if the murderers became active again.
Gary, you really need to read what you are writing before posting, as you are coming across as a complete prick in this thread.
 
Last edited:
J

jontheone

Guest
dont know all the facts, but i heard that the "muslims" who committed this act were born here?

now that is a worry.

as for other people doing "my" job ( i wasnt there). i dont know how i would have reacted or how i would have been told to react.

the people that tried to comfort the injured man and speak to the attackers were very brave or didnt quite realise the seriousness of the situation or the danger they were in. or both.

thankfully they were ok. it could have been so much more tragic

a lady even walked past pushing a trolley or a pram whilst he was ranting.
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
Club Sponsor
Would love to agree with you, but the muslins know who all the activists are, and they must give them all up, otherwise they are all tarred with the same brush. They must root out all these scum. Then they can be invited into this country.

Do you know who all the white English Paedophiles are?
You are making impossible assumptions.
 
C

Creo

Guest
I know this post is a long one but it's worth reading, I received this as an email. All about staying silent. I'm not a racist but those fanatics who choose to harm others in this way deserve to die very slowly. TBH I can't believe that the 2 culprits had been investigated several times by MI5, anyone with terrorist links should be deported immediately and if no other country will have them I here there is plenty of empty buildings around Chernobyl and as for the human rights lobby if they don't like it send the fucking terrorist empathisers with them to do their washing... rant over

A German's View on Islam - worth reading This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.




A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts--the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on!
Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?) The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in. And we are silent.......
 
G

gary301161

Guest
I give up, obviously people wont be happy until they are converted. I stand by what I say in days gone by the police wouldn't have thought twice about intervening, armed or not, part of there job is to protect.
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
You can't just fire questions, sooner or later you have to decide. Are you a apologist willing to bend over and bite the desk while your shafted, or do you stand up for your country and yourself?. Wow 600 muslims in the armed forces. What a magnificent proportion compared to the amount of the muslims living in this country.

how can you decide unless you have answers to questions?

if I remember rightly as well the number of serving muslims is roughly the same percentage as muslims living here.

I will stand up for myself until I die, and I fight those who are racist, facist, tory, and against anybody who thinks they are better than anybody else because of race colour wealth, or religion.

by the way my country is england as I am english not british and proud to be English. yet I married a scot and have friends of a lot of different nations and colours. I even have tory friends.
 
G

gary301161

Guest
I know this post is a long one but it's worth reading, I received this as an email. All about staying silent. I'm not a racist but those fanatics who choose to harm others in this way deserve to die very slowly. TBH I can't believe that the 2 culprits had been investigated several times by MI5, anyone with terrorist links should be deported immediately and if no other country will have them I here there is plenty of empty buildings around Chernobyl and as for the human rights lobby if they don't like it send the fucking terrorist empathisers with them to do their washing... rant over

A German's View on Islam - worth reading This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.




A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts--the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on!
Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?) The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in. And we are silent.......
I know I'm thick, but this is exactly what I'm trying to say.
 
Top