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Crozzers
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Yeh, and i can smell your vinegar feet more too.......................... :}
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There is available on prescription a productcalled 'Zyban', it was used a few years ago as an appetite suppresant, but in the quantities taken became addictive, my partner Jill has just used it to stop smoking having had it prescribed, apparently it removes the craving for nicotine, you take the pills AND smoke for the first week then stop moking and up the pill quota. Jill says that even in the 1st week she kept on forgetting to smoke!
I used to smoke 60-80 per day but stopped 10years ago and got a bank loan for the equivalent monthly outlay (a la Punchy), would I rather smoke or ride? Silly question, stick at it, its worth it.
There is available on prescription a productcalled 'Zyban', it was used a few years ago as an appetite suppresant, but in the quantities taken became addictive, my partner Jill has just used it to stop smoking having had it prescribed, apparently it removes the craving for nicotine, you take the pills AND smoke for the first week then stop moking and up the pill quota. Jill says that even in the 1st week she kept on forgetting to smoke!
I used to smoke 60-80 per day but stopped 10years ago and got a bank loan for the equivalent monthly outlay (a la Punchy), would I rather smoke or ride? Silly question, stick at it, its worth it.
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osprey03
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Good luck with giving up smoking.
You could always join Rhino down the gym, the first couple of weeks knackers ya, but it gets easier.
You could always join Rhino down the gym, the first couple of weeks knackers ya, but it gets easier.
RHINO
Answering to nobody
Thats the problem
It got too bloody easy.........i was piling on size like ya would'nt believe.
I went from being able to wear what i want to not even being able to find a shirt off the peg to fit me.
I stopped training pretty much when i met Emma 16 months ago,, did a few days here and there and then stopped 7 months ago.
When i start back this time its gonna pile on again easy.
I cannot do cardio. it bores me to tears, i have to hump weight.. (i'm used to shifting dead wight when Emma steals my side of the bed and i have to shove her back).. man8um
It got too bloody easy.........i was piling on size like ya would'nt believe.
I went from being able to wear what i want to not even being able to find a shirt off the peg to fit me.
I stopped training pretty much when i met Emma 16 months ago,, did a few days here and there and then stopped 7 months ago.
When i start back this time its gonna pile on again easy.
I cannot do cardio. it bores me to tears, i have to hump weight.. (i'm used to shifting dead wight when Emma steals my side of the bed and i have to shove her back).. man8um
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osprey03
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Rhino,
I know what ya mean about piling on the weight - when I started 18 months
ago I weighed in at 87kg now 101kg and I do CV aswell as weights
I know what ya mean about piling on the weight - when I started 18 months
ago I weighed in at 87kg now 101kg and I do CV aswell as weights
birdinflight
Registered User
Good luck Emma..........
stopped smoking myself, over 10 years ago. Cannot remember exactly.
I did try the patches, but they were very new then and you got a total rush for about half an hour of solid nicotine, then nothing the rest of the day!!!
I gave up without in the end. I did get bronchitis though and that was a main deciding factor in stopping.
I hated the smell of my clothes and hair.
I do still think about it in now. Sometimes, especially after a meal I will think how nice it would be to have a ciggy.
As Jaws said it never goes away, its like being an alcoholic, you are always a smoker, but you choose not to actually smoke.
Good luck, remember, do it for yourself, noone else, it has to be your decision, your terms and only for your health. You have to want to do it otherwise sadly it won't work as well.
Fingers crossed for you. By the way, I found chewing gum helped. Yes, i did put weight on, as it does supress your appetite, but I have always had a tendency to put on weight anyway.
Thinking of you.
stopped smoking myself, over 10 years ago. Cannot remember exactly.
I did try the patches, but they were very new then and you got a total rush for about half an hour of solid nicotine, then nothing the rest of the day!!!
I gave up without in the end. I did get bronchitis though and that was a main deciding factor in stopping.
I hated the smell of my clothes and hair.
I do still think about it in now. Sometimes, especially after a meal I will think how nice it would be to have a ciggy.
As Jaws said it never goes away, its like being an alcoholic, you are always a smoker, but you choose not to actually smoke.
Good luck, remember, do it for yourself, noone else, it has to be your decision, your terms and only for your health. You have to want to do it otherwise sadly it won't work as well.
Fingers crossed for you. By the way, I found chewing gum helped. Yes, i did put weight on, as it does supress your appetite, but I have always had a tendency to put on weight anyway.
Thinking of you.
S
SMUDGER44
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best of luck
i did it seven years ago, (and stopped smoking) , it was with a couple of sessions of hypnoses, and picking up apair of stress balls just to keep my hands busy, (this also helped me stop playing with myself)
Oh yes, and lots of will power, good luck to you, you can do it.
i did it seven years ago, (and stopped smoking)
, it was with a couple of sessions of hypnoses, and picking up apair of stress balls just to keep my hands busy, (this also helped me stop playing with myself) Oh yes, and lots of will power, good luck to you, you can do it.
stayed slim up until about 6 yrs ago when i began eating pizzas and things,
It is a well known fact that there is a major flaw with the human body,
The intake hole (mouth) is much larger than the waste hole (arse).
The only cure is to turn gay then you can get a rebore,
It is a well known fact that there is a major flaw with the human body,
The intake hole (mouth) is much larger than the waste hole (arse).
The only cure is to turn gay then you can get a rebore,
tootyfluti
Head in the Clouds
Don`t go off at the deep end she`ll only think fuck you and do it more.
Its as tough on the poor sod living with the person trying to give up as it is for the person giving up.
Emma perservere(sp?) its worth it. Ring the quit smoking helpline or whatever it takes. John, find them and burn them
Its as tough on the poor sod living with the person trying to give up as it is for the person giving up.
Emma perservere(sp?) its worth it. Ring the quit smoking helpline or whatever it takes. John, find them and burn them
RHINO said:been on the fags again
when people are giving up habits they experience something called the cycle of change, this means that sometimes during the course of giving up, they fall back on to the habit, this doesn't make them a failure, if for instance someone smoked forty a day (as my wife did) then they go a couple of weeks/months without a cig then the craving gets too much so they have a couple of cigs to help them through, surely this is better than the 40 a day habit. I gave up smoking 24 years ago, five years ago on my 42nd birthday something traumatic happened in my life, the first thing I turned to was cigarettes, my traumatic period lasted for about six weeks but my smoking lasted for nearly two years, one day I ran out of cigs so I just gave my lighter to a colleague and have not had a cig since. Emma needs your support and understanding.
RHINO
Answering to nobody
Yeh right
She bought cigs in the shop today whilst i'm stood there ,, i wasn't shaving in protest at the cigs,,, i have a shave and now she starts again.
Naaa, i'm not doing anymore, if she want to kill herself slowly then thats fine!
This has gone on since we met and it took 16 months for her to decide to stop, all for 2 days whoopee...
I'm so bloody angry about it, at least 4 today that i know of..
This is it EMMA, war has commenced. I will have a beard like Father bleeding Xmas until YOU quit the cancer sticks
She bought cigs in the shop today whilst i'm stood there
,, i wasn't shaving in protest at the cigs,,, i have a shave and now she starts again.Naaa, i'm not doing anymore, if she want to kill herself slowly then thats fine!
This has gone on since we met and it took 16 months for her to decide to stop, all for 2 days whoopee...
I'm so bloody angry about it, at least 4 today that i know of..
This is it EMMA, war has commenced. I will have a beard like Father bleeding Xmas until YOU quit the cancer sticks
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R2B2
Guest
Emma, a different angle to consider...
Over a period of couple of years I had several goes at giving up, but always caved in after a few days like yourself. Having now stopped just over two years ago I have a different perspective on the difficulties of stopping. I'm now convinced it's a mindset, and not so much just the craving - the craving just gets the better of a weak mindset and is the excuse to start again.
When I did stop I did it by setting a date in the (near) future which would be my quit day. It was about three weeks away. This gave me the time to prepare mentally to accept that all the normal reasons for starting again, like giving in to the craving, being snappy and bad tempered with people etc etc, WERE just EXCUSES to restart (they really are).
Once you can recognise that fact and start CELEBRATING each successive day as a non smoker, - just remind yourself of all the negative reasons why you shouldn't smoke now you're a NON SMOKER, like your health, the smell, the money etc, (choose one of these or nominate one of your own reasons for wanting to stop, to use as your "must not cross" barrier) - instead of DWELLING on how much LONGER you can last without one, it follows that you will find it easier to control because your mindset will have become stronger than the excuses to restart.
Once you can get the positives and negatives in the right order by adapting this mindset, stopping becomes much less torturous because you're on a celebration rather than a downer!
I know what I'm trying to say but putting it into text is not straightforward. If you get the gist of the mindset and priorities therory, then I think you're half way there.
Try the future date method. It worked for me and I was a very long term smoker.
Over a period of couple of years I had several goes at giving up, but always caved in after a few days like yourself. Having now stopped just over two years ago I have a different perspective on the difficulties of stopping. I'm now convinced it's a mindset, and not so much just the craving - the craving just gets the better of a weak mindset and is the excuse to start again.
When I did stop I did it by setting a date in the (near) future which would be my quit day. It was about three weeks away. This gave me the time to prepare mentally to accept that all the normal reasons for starting again, like giving in to the craving, being snappy and bad tempered with people etc etc, WERE just EXCUSES to restart (they really are).
Once you can recognise that fact and start CELEBRATING each successive day as a non smoker, - just remind yourself of all the negative reasons why you shouldn't smoke now you're a NON SMOKER, like your health, the smell, the money etc, (choose one of these or nominate one of your own reasons for wanting to stop, to use as your "must not cross" barrier) - instead of DWELLING on how much LONGER you can last without one, it follows that you will find it easier to control because your mindset will have become stronger than the excuses to restart.
Once you can get the positives and negatives in the right order by adapting this mindset, stopping becomes much less torturous because you're on a celebration rather than a downer!
I know what I'm trying to say but putting it into text is not straightforward. If you get the gist of the mindset and priorities therory, then I think you're half way there.
Try the future date method. It worked for me and I was a very long term smoker.
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Crozzers
Guest
I am finding it extremely difficult to give up. There are certain times of the day that i cannot do without one, ie.in the morning, after a meal etc..........
The patches are not working for me, i still have the cravings, and they keep awake at night.............. I am dieting at the same time as i do not want to put on any weight. I am down to 4-5 cigarettes a day from 25, and think i have done really well. Maybe giving up altogether was a mistake as people are giving me grief and looking at me like im a naughty schoolgirl whenever i have one. :violin:
I DO wanna give up, but i feel cutting down first would maybe be the best idea, and i DO need the support from other people which i am not getting at all.................................................................. :B
The patches are not working for me, i still have the cravings, and they keep awake at night.............. I am dieting at the same time as i do not want to put on any weight. I am down to 4-5 cigarettes a day from 25, and think i have done really well. Maybe giving up altogether was a mistake as people are giving me grief and looking at me like im a naughty schoolgirl whenever i have one. :violin:
I DO wanna give up, but i feel cutting down first would maybe be the best idea, and i DO need the support from other people which i am not getting at all.................................................................. :B
ianrobbo1
good looking AND modest
oh yes you are!!!, its just that Tinas over here supporting you, if you want to email me or get John to phone an address Tina will post you those Patches, it got to the point with Tina it simply wasnt worth her getting the cancer sticks out, as she had cut down so much, and when her "ol dear" was told to give up or die, she had no one to "cadge" any off, :bow:
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R2B2
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Crozzers said:
(This is NOT a nag!!)
Just about everybody I've talked to who gave up smoking said the cutting down method doesn't work, - that's because you perceive the few fags you allow yourself to be a "reward" for doing so well in cutting down! The result is you're still a smoker and in that respect you haven't made any headway at all. It's a comfort justification for continuing so the hard fact is the method has failed.... and will again.
That's a bitter pill to swallow I know, but once a method has proved to fail you have to look at another as there is no point in trying again a method that you already know doesn't work.
The first thing in the morning and the after meal fags do not have a higher rank than any others... they are further justification, or excuses, to continue! (this really isn't a nag, don't read it as one!! Read it in the manner for which it was intended - as a bit of outside help from someone who smoked far longer than you have.)
Once you can shape yourself into the congratulatory mindset rather than the dwelling one you'll crack it so easy you'll surprise yourself. If you really wanna do it, you can, BUT it's a question of adopting the thinking and shaping that state of mind that is the key - and not the physicals that you're hanging on to.
The help IS here... but you must take it on board for it to do any good.... Good luck. I know you can do it - 'cos thousands have before you.