Smoking in Pubs...

[gypsy]

Just concerns me as to where it all ends ?
Fair enough you dont like smoking but what about the people who dont like bikes, drinking , 4 x 4 s whatever do we stop them all from being carried out freely.

 

[derek kelly]

More people die through smoking related illnesses than bike related accidents

 

[gypsy]

More people die through smoking related illnesses than bike related accidents

And what about alcohol related illnesses or violent acts ?
do we have a sliding scale of what does most damage and ban
them one by one ?

 

[Mozza]

Just concerns me as to where it all ends ?
Fair enough you dont like smoking but what about the people who dont like bikes, drinking , 4 x 4 s whatever do we stop them all from being carried out freely.

i dont get your angle on this, your compairing motoring to smoking ! im not sure you can put anything in the same catagory as smoking apart from drugs......

 

[russ_fae_fyvie]

Breathing alcohol fumes over your mate doesnt have quite the same effect as smoke !!

 

[gypsy]

The angle is the restrictions you want place on another persons freedom to do something going off your own beliefs ,i'm not saying you are right or wrong in those beliefs but where does it stop?

 

[mick the knife]

Ban garlic eaters in public places.

 

[gypsy]

Breathing alcohol fumes over your mate doesnt have quite the same effect as smoke !!

Depend what effect your after Russ uke:

 

[Mozza]

Ban garlic eaters in public places.

lol, i love garlic but i know what ya mean..........personally i love the smell, but not on my breath the next morning

 

[gypsy]

Ban garlic eaters in public places.

You leave old Centaur alone b0x1 b0x1














sorry i thought it said Gaelic

 

[Oldbull]

why the feck should you have to ask if it is a smoking enviroment when looking for a job.......?......

why the feck do you think that an employer owes you a living under your terms and conditions...
It is his buiseness that he has created from his blood sweat and tears not yours ... if its in a smoking enviroment or not is irrelevent, what is relevent tho is wether you choose to work for him or not, or wether he chooses to employ you or not...

The freedom of choice is the issue here not the shite disguising it...


A perfect example of my policing question...
we went to watch a Walter Trout concert at the Sherwood rooms nottingham the other month... ?15 a ticket, packed out seedy little dive..
On arrival it was found that Walter had dictated that it was 'no smoking' night.. 300+ people crammed in like beans in a sardine can.. within half an hour you could see people lighting up in differant parts of the room ..
I said to bouncer.. I thought it was a non smoking night ?? he said it is, looking through the plooms of smoke towards the stage.. I asked him what he was going to do about it ?? nothing, it will cause a riot..wtf.
Do I walk out and miss the show ??? report them to the police and demand the place is shut down ?? either way I lose.. no more concert..
Whats ironic as well is, I asked why it wasnt advertised that it was a non smoking event and people would have known in advance and could have had the choice.. His reply.. because there would be no f**ker here !!!

It should have been stated on the tickets or adverts that it was a non smoking event and people would have had the choice.. but it wasnt, and now I know why ...

so how should it have been policed ??

p0pc0rn41

 

[Mozza]

Walter who ??????????? the fact that he only attracted 300 people doesnt tell me much either h1d1ng2

 

[Oldbull]

http://www.bikersoracle.com/blackbird/forum/showthread.php?t=28882&highlight=walter+trout

hehe.. dont matter if it was an Elvis concert.. how should it have been handled is what I want to know ?? and how is it going to be handled in the future in the places that arent full of the law abiding angelic types we have here in our land of hope and glory ???


p0pc0rn41 Elvis who..

 

[R2B2]

Old Bull

Your argument is so outdated and outmoded it's laughable! It simply doesn't hold water.

This ban doesn't devoid anybody of their freedom or rights. It doesn't tell anybody to stop smoking.

If you read thru this thread from the start you'll see that this legislation is to protect the working person from the dangers of smoking, and the employers from the ensuing compensation claims from those employees made ill from the smoke concentrated in the affected enclosed places.

Your argument, and others like it, simply doesn't make sense. If you were an employer then your argument would actually support your employees suing you when you allow a proven health hazard to be facilitated on your premises. To me, that doesn't make sense! Does it to you?

Similarly, if you were made ill by a deathly pollutant at your place of work and the pollutant was openly allowed by your boss I'm sure you would be looking to suing him for compensation, right? To me, that does make sense! Does it to you?

Can't have it both ways mate!

And it IS different. Riding bikes and sky-diving and all the other daft suggestions simply don't feature as a comparable argument. We've heard them all before!

BTW - I'm right up there with you re Walter Trout. Seen him many times now.... :yo:

 

[bunny]

Will go round silverfoxs and do all my smoking round his. :bow: :bow:

 

[silverfox.xx]

Will go round silverfoxs and do all my smoking round his. :bow: :bow:

Most welcome, in the garage........

 

[bunny]

Most welcome, in the garage........

But your ashtrays are full. h1d1ng2 But what a lovely floor.

 

[mick the knife]

But your ashtrays are full. h1d1ng2 But what a lovely floor.

They're full cos Clive's been away for Crimbo, and not had time to recycle the stubbie's

 

[bunny]

They're full cos Clive's been away for Crimbo, and not had time to recycle the stubbie's

 

[silverfox.xx]

They're full cos Clive's been away for Crimbo, and not had time to recycle the stubbie's

Use a razor to remove stubbies.......