Smoking in Pubs...

[Centaur]

You leave old Centaur alone b0x1 b0x1














sorry i thought it said Gaelic

Did someone call.....sorry I was asleep....freakin hate garlic and smoking!

 

[zed head]

Just seen this one. The smoking ban in pubs is great. I live and work in a pub and also smoke... It stinks, makes my eyes sore, my nose runs and my clothes in the wardrobe upstairs smell punters should have no problem going outside for a smoke they don't mind going to the bog for a pee or to powder their nose and have no problem going outside for a spliff. Most smokers with a belly full of beer are inconsiderate ignorant fuckers (my opinion). Bring on the ban.

Baza

 

[warrior64]

i don't smoke but i don't think it should be banned,yes where food is but i bet our european scroungers don't stop

 

[andyBeaker]

Hmmmmmmmmmm.

simple for me this one. I can't stand being indoors where someone is smoking. I believe in freedom of choice but why should I have smoke inflicted on me; the only choice I have is to go somewhere else opposed to the smoker who inflicts their output on everyone around them whether they like it or not.

I belong to a private family orientated club where smoking inside was banned after a vote by members a couple of years back. Hasn't stopped anyone using the club, the smokers go outside into a very pleasant sitting area created for the purpose. Seems to suit everyone.

Been to a couple of Cup Finals at Millenium Stadium where stewards actively enforce the no smoking policy. Bliss...................

 

[TaxiRED?]

Yes, its just a dirty,smelling, cancer killing fucking habit. Tax you smoking fuckers to the hilt, Why should i breath your habit, you have NO RIGHT to kill me, just because you are killing yourselves.

The sooner BRITAIN is a smoke free zone the better IMHO.

 

[Centaur]

Slight alterations!

Yes, its just a dirty,smelling, accident prone fucking habit. Tax you biking fuckers to the hilt, Why should i suffer your noisy habit, you have NO RIGHT to kill me, just because you are killing yourselves.

The sooner BRITAIN is a bike free zone the better IMHO.

Agree with you mate but I just couldn't resist!

 

[gypsy]

Yes, its just a dirty,smelling, cancer killing fucking habit. Tax you smoking fuckers to the hilt, Why should i breath your habit, you have NO RIGHT to kill me, just because you are killing yourselves.

The sooner BRITAIN is a smoke free zone the better IMHO.

Typical namby pamby wishy washy left wing do-gooder statement
get off the fence and say it how it is b0x1

 

[Oldbull]

No baiting intended this time... honest

This law is going to change the way I like to do my socialising, it will cause the closure of a lot of the type of pubs that I like to frequent.. fact..

It is also a fact that the average person is 100 times more likely to die from going into hospital for an operation on an ingrowing toenail (mrsa), than they are from passive smoking from going into pubs once or twice a week.

The threat from carbon emissions will be poisoning everyone, well before the passive fags do.

All I ask is for some common sense to prevail and the proprietors and customers of said places choose what type of envoiroment they wish to socialise in .. and prevent the said places from almost certain closure.

LET ME HAVE MY PINT IN PEACE


BTW there are also a few exemptions from this law when it comes into force which I think one is certainly worth a mention .. a few are ..

the law does not apply to:-

mental institutes
psychiatric wards in prisons
and wait for it.....

THE BAR IN THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT


I cant get my fuggin breath .. cough cough :neenaw:

 

[osprey03]

I assume all you "ban smoking 'cause it pollutes my air" types, don't drive cars, bikes etc that cause more pollution !!

 

[Wolfie]

I assume all you "ban smoking 'cause it pollutes my air" types, don't drive cars, bikes etc that cause more pollution !!

nope, they dont have the time , too busy being leftie pc dogooders and wanking of course

 

[R2B2]

I assume all you "ban smoking 'cause it pollutes my air" types, don't drive cars, bikes etc that cause more pollution !!

Yeah, I do. Both.

But I don't do it in an enclosed place like a bar or restaurant. That would kill somebody, ironically

 

[R2B2]

it will cause the closure of a lot of the type of pubs that I like to frequent.. fact..

Is that really true though, have loadsa places actually had to close because of it..? Genuine question.... I don't know what the figures are on this.

Would you really not go into a pub cos of no smoking? Cos the only thing that will close pubs is if the smokers boycott them, and as I said earlier, I spent Xmas week in Scotland and all the smokers were in the pubs just the same as before!! They just went outside forra fag.

 

[Oldbull]

Town centre pubs will survive Rob in the controlled enviroment, but its the little out of town places that will get hit the hardest. who wants to go stand outside this weather ?? also I would be curious to see how busy the pubs were away from the holliday priod ??

how are the smaller places going to enforce it as I said before ??

also what you think about the bar in the house s of parliament being exempt ??

I honestly cant see why they cant be optional either smoking or non smoking then you take your pick fl4g71

 

[mick the knife]

I dont consider myself a smoker anymore, although I do have the odd cigar. Since I've given up the habit (3yrs) I tend to stay clear of pubs. Not because of the smell of smoke it's cos I'd want another smoke. Having a bevvy and a smoke goes hand in hand to a smoker, you cant have one without the other. Looking back to when my nicotine intake was higher I wouldn't have managed to stand there all night without having one, yes I could go outside, but if it's raining how bloody misrable would that be? So in a nutshell, leave our liberty alone, leave it up to the landlords discression.

 

[R2B2]

also what you think about the bar in the house s of parliament being exempt ??

That stinks. They're taking the michael...

 

[andyBeaker]

Is a opoint being missed here? I am a non smoker and simply don't like being in an environmemt where there is cigarette smoke. forget all the passive smoking stuff, it really is as simple as that.

As far as I am concerned it is an infringement on ME if someone smokes near me.

Go somewhere else!!man8um

 

[Oldbull]

exactly the point Andy .. like you have at the moment.. the choice.. You can go do your socialising in places where they dont smoke if you want..

all it will do is reverse things around, the non smokers dont have 'much' choice at the moment, some but not much, when the law comes into effect the smokers will have non at all ..


whats the problem with having both ??? or dont you think the non smoking places will be very popular if they have both ???

Is it fair on the landlords that are going to lose there living and fair on the staff that are going to lose their jobs because it certainly will happen ..
I asked the landlord and lady at my local the other night 'what are you going to do when the new law comes in' they honestly said they havent a clue.. 80% of the regulars that go in their pub smoke, including themselves and they need to keep them all to stay open ....

what is the problem with having a choice ...

a bus /lorry going by choking you to death is an infringment of ME, go drive them somewhere else.. :bang:

 

[R2B2]

.. like you have at the moment.. the choice.. You can go do your socialising in places where they dont smoke if you want..

Ye gods!! I find statements like that incredible. Just how does the smoking contingent justify the onus being on the non smoking victims or recipients of someone else's smoke to go elsewhere? In any stretch of the imagination that can't possibly be right. Surely the onus must be on the smoker....?? Apart from the obvious, doesn't the simple majority/minority rule apply...?? I'd be interested to read genuine and valid reasons why the onus should be on the non-smoker...

80% of the regulars that go in their pub smoke...... and they need to keep them all to stay open ....

The common complaint that seems to run through these threads is the assumption that the smokers will not have any pubs to go to. For example, that statement suggests that this pub will loose 80% of it's customers. That's rubbish!! Utter tosh!! The regulars of any given pub will continue to be regulars on the whole. Yes, you may get a very limited boycott by a few in the early days but they will soon cave in and go back. How is it that you think you won't have a pub to go to, lol!

Why are all these pub staff going to loose their jobs, and why are all these pubs going to close down? I read a report on the BBC News website last night about a survey on the effects of the ban in Scotland. To date, not one single pub closure has been recorded as a result of the smoking ban! So all this hype about jobs and pubs is just propaganda, but we all know that anyway and I know you're not being serious!

I copied the link to post it on here and then forgot and turned the computer off and lost the link..... now I can't find the same page again :bang: The general result of the survey showed an initial drop in takings of an average of 10% during the early "protest" period with most places recovering in varying amounts since then. Hardly pub closing stuff anyway!

So relax.... :-: you'll still be able to go forra pint 'cos your pub will still be OPEN and there will still be staff there to serve you Unless of course the ban was revoked - in which case there will be no staff to serve you (litigation will prevent the landlords from employing them) and THEN you'll have something to gripe about!!

 

[Pugwash]

I know a couple of people who have quit smoking recently, prompted by this ban partly. This can only be a good thing.

 

[valhalla]

Is a opoint being missed here? I am a non smoker and simply don't like being in an environmemt where there is cigarette smoke. forget all the passive smoking stuff, it really is as simple as that.

As far as I am concerned it is an infringement on ME if someone smokes near me.

Go somewhere else!!man8um

Being a non-smoker myself I have to agree with a lot of things people are saying but surely if someone sat next to you in a resturant or pub and did a really rank fart then surely that would be an infringement on you as well