Making progress?

[Centaur]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-38757035

He deserved to be punished for endangering the life of the police officer in the layby. it is always dangerous to speed near police cars IMHO. 8rfl@

 

[Crazy Train]

Apparently: "Driving a motorcycle at 160mph even with dry conditions and in broad daylight, is extremely dangerous,"

Is it really?

The BMW S1000RR is an incredible feat of engineering, perhaps if he had made the court aware of the specifications and design parameters of the vehicle, they may have been more lenient.

 

[slim63]

I60mph that's a poor attempt :-0)

Seriously this sort of stuff drives me nuts, 160 on clear dry straight roads in clear daylight isn't dangerous in itself (although falling off is) its about time the police & the courts started making the distinction between riding fast & riding like a complete knob s04pb0x6

Yes he broke the law but from the very limited information given I very much doubt he was a danger to himself or anyone else (or there would have been a dangerous driving charge) I will wager most of you who use the roads regularly see much more dangerous stuff around any town at sub 50mph

Imo he deserved the ban & fine for being daft enough to get caught but a retake of his test & the expense involved in that as well .............. no!

p0pc0rn41

 

[andyBeaker]

Couldn't disagree more.


Incredibly lenient sentence.

If he wants to kill himself then fine. Unfortunately anyone who gets in his way would go the same way.

Stopping distance on a bike from 160?

Use a racetrack if you want to do 160.

 

[Dark Angel]

EQUALS

...'Nuff sedd.

 

[slim63]

Couldn't disagree more.


Incredibly lenient sentence.

If he wants to kill himself then fine. Unfortunately anyone who gets in his way would go the same way.

Stopping distance on a bike from 160?

Use a racetrack if you want to do 160.

If you would like to explain what is dangerous about going fast in the right conditions on a well maintained bike I'll be happy to change my opinion :whi5tl:

 

[Dark Angel]

If you would like to explain what is dangerous about going fast in the right conditions on a well maintained bike I'll be happy to change my opinion

I was "going fast in the right conditions on a well maintained bike" at Cadwell Park in 2009.

Unfortunately... :whi5tl:

There are always things around us that lie beyond our control.

Anticipating or, at least, appreciating that potential can save your life -

...or someone else's.

 

[slim63]

I was "going fast in the right conditions on a well maintained bike" at Cadwell Park in 2009.

Unfortunately... :whi5tl:

There are always things around us that lie beyond our control.

Anticipating or, at least, appreciating that potential can save your life -

...or someone else's.

Ok you were going fast & fell off, it wasn't the speed that caused that now was it ? unless you were going too fast for the conditions or your skill level :dunno:

The point I am trying to make is speed isn't intrinsically dangerous as suggested by the judge, other factors have to come into play to make it dangerous as you so rightly point out ................ even though I didn't need the lesson :-0)

long gone are the days of the man with the red flag & the belief that a human couldn't breath at anything over 30mph & no I'm no old enough to remember those days, although some here may be :whi5tl:

But the bloke in your original post has been penalised for speed, no accident, no other factors, no lives lost & it seems no problems caused to anyone, hence the penalty is a little harsh in my view

Now if he had caused a problem or injury to others at a third of that speed I would agree with you & the penalty @tu*

 

[sr71caspar]

Gotta disagree with you slim.
He broke the law. He got punished.
If you wanna speed then you have to accept the consequences. Whatever they are- rightly or wrongly.


In my opinion he was penalised for being stupid, not speeding.
He was going too fast to see the Dibble with a hairdryer.


I'm of the philosophy that speed doesn't kill, inappropriate speed kills.


And I felled off at Oulton last year.:-0)

 

[noobie]

I used to use that road quite a bit, it's a dual carriageway and reasonably straight and if safe enough, then it's a road more than capable to take that speed in the right conditions.

That said, if you do that speed and get caught then you have to take it on the chin.

 

[Pow-Lo]

Gotta disagree with you slim.
He broke the law. He got punished.
If you wanna speed then you have to accept the consequences. Whatever they are- rightly or wrongly.


In my opinion he was penalised for being stupid, not speeding.
He was going too fast to see the Dibble with a hairdryer.


I'm of the philosophy that speed doesn't kill, inappropriate speed kills.


And I felled off at Oulton last year.:-0)

My philosophy too @tu* It's like saying 'guns kill'. No they don't, it's the twat with the finger on the trigger that kills.

 

[mikeyw64]

so its ok for the Police to aim Lasers at members of the public yet a member of the public can't aim a laser at an aircraft in case they blind the pilot :whi5tl:

 

[Dark Angel]

The police deliberately target a speeding vehicle to establish its velocity.

The knobheads deliberately target a plane’s cockpit with the intention of distracting or injuring the pilot.

Different parties with different intentions – similar potential for injury or harm.

It's the potential, not the act, that's the focal point for me.

 

[Centaur]

So it's a miracle then?

IOM TT and NW200 etc. I'm amazed every one of them isn't killed. Those roads are a damn sight more difficult than a dual carriageway. On my trips across to NI when I was riding bikes I always, if the conditions were good, maxed out every bike I rode. I would get a mile or so empty ahead of me and then nail it. The only person in any danger was myself. When was the last time we heard of a biker killing or injuring someone through speed on an open road? I'm surprised the knobhead of a magistrate didn't send the daft bugger to jail. Daft because he should have gone up the road first at a legal speed to ensure there were no coppers parked up.

Joey Dunlop was well known by everyone including the coppers for testing his bikes up and down the Dunloy Road. Definitely not a dual carriageway.

I'm glad I had my biking life when I did because I think it is a sad biking society we live in now if a biker is condemned by his peers for speed alone. uke:

 

[Dark Angel]

I'm glad I had my biking life when I did because I think it is a sad biking society we live in now if a biker is condemned by his peers for speed alone. uke:

No - not “speed alone” – “inappropriate speed on a public highway”. If you really want to feel “sickened” look at the roll call of racers who died on closed public roads - including Joey Dunlop.

They will, and should be, honoured always, but I’ve no respect for a prick who’s selfish enough to jeopardise, not only himself, but also the future of the motorcycling community through his stupid actions.

 

[DonVulpes]

Couldn't disagree more.


Incredibly lenient sentence.

If he wants to kill himself then fine. Unfortunately anyone who gets in his way would go the same way.

Stopping distance on a bike from 160?

Use a racetrack if you want to do 160.

I agree.

Given the fact it was at 5.20pm there was every chance he was putting other people at risk.

Done twattish speeds myself, so know how it easy it is to get sucked in, but at 2am on a clear and empty dual carriageway on a summer's evening is definitely less hazardous.

 

[Centaur]

No - not “speed alone” – “inappropriate speed on a public highway”. If you really want to feel “sickened” look at the roll call of racers who died on closed public roads - including Joey Dunlop.

They will, and should be, honoured always, but I’ve no respect for a prick who’s selfish enough to jeopardise, not just himself, but the future of the motorcycling community through his stupid actions.

I knew Joey and I still know his family. He is buried a few yards from my grandparents and I always pay my respects when I go over home. Ballymoney where I grew up is a small town where everyone knows everyone but I knew Joey and the armada from when he first started. Are you telling me you have never knowingly broken the speed limit on the public highway, DA and if so are you a better judge than everyone to decide when it is safe?

 

[sr71caspar]

IOM TT and NW200 etc. I'm amazed every one of them isn't killed. Those roads are a damn sight more difficult than a dual carriageway.

Closed roads. No opposing traffic. No pedestrians. Road furnature padded. Well marshaled. Heli-med on call. And, most importantly, professional riders.

Bit of a poor comparison.


Yes I've broken speed limits, by quite a lot:whi5tl:, but I've never put others or myself at risk.



........ or been caught:-0).

 

[slim63]

Looking at some of the above posts I am amazed a lot of you are not campaigning for every vehicle to be restricted to the national speed limit 8rfl@

And its just a teeny bit odd that some of those calling the guy a dick have quite recently posted the top speed that they have seen on their bird, most of those were in excess of 160mph, I very much doubt any of those was on a uk race track :dunno:

keeping that in mind what is the difference between you & the guy first posted about ? ............ oh that's right he got caught :-0)

Bloody hilarious 8rfl@

 

[sr71caspar]

Looking at some of the above posts I am amazed a lot of you are not campaigning for every vehicle to be restricted to the national speed limit 8rfl@

And its just a teeny bit odd that some of those calling the guy a dick have quite recently posted the top speed that they have seen on their bird, most of those were in excess of 160mph, I very much doubt any of those was on a uk race track :dunno:

keeping that in mind what is the difference between you & the guy first posted about ? ............ oh that's right he got caught :-0)

Bloody hilarious 8rfl@

Why do you think he got caught? Stupidity more than the speed.


Would you do 160mph through the centre of Stoke?

No?


Well why do you have a bike that's capable of that speed, if you don't travel everywhere at that speed?


There's a time and a place to play. Some people have the common sense to know when and where that may be.