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Indicating at roundabouts...

eddyace595

Been there, and had one
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One of the many things that really boil my piss is indicating at roundabouts.Or more accurately NOT indicating at roundabouts.
Its patently obvious that 80% of the driving public have absolutely no idea how to indicate on the approach to,the traversing of,and the exit of the common or garden roundabout,and consequently they dont even bother...
Of the remaining 20%...about half of these have a go but get it wrong,the other half do it properly.
Its seem to be such a rare occurrence when someone does it properly that I find myself talking under my breath saying things like"Nice one mate..respect" etc.
I was led to believe that the driving test was supposed to be getting more difficult,so why is this happening??
Oh well,rant over...Sorry chaps,but I need to exorcise these demons.
More rants to follow.
 
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stormer

Registered User
Every rider/driver thinks they are better than average at their skills including us. We all do things that can be improved, some even go out of their way to help correct the faults of others. Personally I would prefer NO indicators at traffic islands so that less presumptions are made....@tu*
 
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bert1137

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I drive all around the country & it is a bit of a problem but seeing as I hail from norwich where we don`t use indictators apart from on the test, I don`t see the problem, I just don`t trust any driver until I see their wheels turn & then & only then do I plan my overtake or hard braking.
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In all honestily I find that road position is a far better indicator than flashing lights that may or may not have anything to do with what the driver is planning to do.
 

Crazy Train

Registered User
Accurate communication makes the roads much safer, and traffic flow much better.

Indicators are a very effective means of communication. If you do not indicate, you are part of the problem, and bloody lazy.
 

Centaur

Site Pedant
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Don't hold back, CT.

Accurate communication makes the roads much safer, and traffic flow much better.

Indicators are a very effective means of communication. If you do not indicate, you are part of the problem, and bloody lazy.

You really must be more assertive!

We have a double mini-roundabout in Aberystwyth. Not indicating slows the whole feckin thing down. :rant:
 
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mikeyw64

Guest
Leighton Buzzard Magic Roundabout, aim, point, squirt ;o)
 

Barrie

Registered User
One of the many things that really boil my piss is indicating at roundabouts.Or more accurately NOT indicating at roundabouts.
Its patently obvious that 80% of the driving public have absolutely no idea how to indicate on the approach to,the traversing of,and the exit of the common or garden roundabout,and consequently they dont even bother...
Of the remaining 20%...about half of these have a go but get it wrong,the other half do it properly.
Its seem to be such a rare occurrence when someone does it properly that I find myself talking under my breath saying things like"Nice one mate..respect" etc.
I was led to believe that the driving test was supposed to be getting more difficult,so why is this happening??
Oh well,rant over...Sorry chaps,but I need to exercise these demons.
More rants to follow.

IF you "Exercise" your demons, they will still need "Exorcising"
 
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bert1137

Guest
Accurate communication makes the roads much safer, and traffic flow much better.

Indicators are a very effective means of communication. If you do not indicate, you are part of the problem, and bloody lazy.

Just a question - when you did your test the driving instructor tell you to trust the indicators because they had been put on for the reason of safety or did they say to you that flashing light just indicates that the bulb works & the driver may not know it is on , bit like fog lights.
I stand by my comment - I don`t trust indicators.

Just a question not a dig.
 

Crazy Train

Registered User
My instructor told me nothing about indicators.

You are right not to trust indicators alone, but when coupled with vehicle speed, and road position, they can normally be relied upon, and keep traffic flowing freely.
 
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bert1137

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My instructor told me nothing about indicators.

You are right not to trust indicators alone, but when coupled with vehicle speed, and road position, they can normally be relied upon, and keep traffic flowing freely.

from my first post at the end so maybe you missed it.

"In all honestily I find that road position is a far better indicator than flashing lights that may or may not have anything to do with what the driver is planning to do."
 

Murt

Letch
I agree that people not indicating properly at roundabouts are being annoying, lazy, inconsiderate and possibly dangerous!
As said, some people have no idea about when and where to blink. Others do but can't be bothered. Its better to stay in bed and not use the roads at all!!

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/news-and-safety-tips/-highway-code-for-roundabouts

As we all know, some makes of cars are not fitted with indicators.

Another bad habit is people stopping at the stop lines at traffic lights, but about a car length away! This is because instructors tell them 'tyre and tarmac' at the front to leave a space, but never explain why or exactly when! :bang:

Murt
 

Jaws

Corporal CockUp
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LOL !!
I drive all over Europe..
The rules seem to change from country to country !!
 

Quiney

Registered User
I agree that people not indicating properly at roundabouts are being annoying, lazy, inconsiderate and possibly dangerous!
As said, some people have no idea about when and where to blink. Others do but can't be bothered. Its better to stay in bed and not use the roads at all!!

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/news-and-safety-tips/-highway-code-for-roundabouts

As we all know, some makes of cars are not fitted with indicators.

Another bad habit is people stopping at the stop lines at traffic lights, but about a car length away! This is because instructors tell them 'tyre and tarmac' at the front to leave a space, but never explain why or exactly when! :bang:

Murt

I like the ones with automatic indicators. They come on when you turn the steering wheel more than half a turn to the left or right.
 
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bishbosh

Guest
I like the ones with automatic indicators. They come on when you turn the steering wheel more than half a turn to the left or right.

That could be confusing with a tanks slapper !!
 
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bert1137

Guest
IF you are going to use indicators I would hope you would use them before you start the turn rather than after you have started the turn.
 

Minkey

Ok it was me
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My gripe on roundabouts is when you have two lanes one for turning right and left for straight on, often the car in the left lane cuts into to right lane

Second gripe

What happened to mirror signal manoeuvre why do so many drivers when turning off a main road suddenly brake and then indicate they are turning off :bang:
 

T.C

Been there, and had one
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This is one of my pet hates.

The biggest issue with indicators is that the majority of the motoring public give an indicator as a signal of acheivement rather thana signal of intent.

A signal has limited meanings. "I intend to turn left, I intend to move to the left, I intend to move to the left and stop" or "I intend to turn right or I intend to move to the right"

They do not mean I am doing it regardless or I have done it.

How many times have you seen one or 2 flashes of someones indicator before they turn or change position? They put it on as an after thought.

If going straight ahead at a mini roundabout, many give a eft hand signal! Why?

Take the roundabout out and it is nothing more than a crossroads, what is the signal for going straight ahead at a crossroads? There isn't one, but it causes confusion and is not a signal of intent because by the time they have got to the 3rd or 4th flash they are already a hundred yards up the road.

Same when turning right at a roundabout. Right signal given, fair enough, but why the left? (And I am taking a conventional 3 exit roundabout) You have already indicated your intent t turn right at the roundabout, so at the point where you wuld give te left hand signal, just cancel it because it avoids the issue of forgetting to cancel, and if there is a junction just beyond the roundabout, it avoids the possibility of traffic potentially pulling out on you as you clear the roundabout.

Why do riders and drivers indicate to retrn to the left after an overtake? You are returning to your rightfull position on the road so what does it achieve?

When moving off from the kerb why do so many indicate? You aint going to move if there is traffic behind you, so who are you telling?

I could give many other examples, but the point I am making that drivers and riders are blody awfull in the use of their indicators in general. They give the wrong signal at the wrong time or they o not give out a signal of intention at all

I fail riders on the advanced test for poor, improper and/or incorrect use of indicators, and in my job, I usually recommend that the if the question of the use if indicators is questioned, it can have an affect on the outcome as improper use (which includes giving the wrong signal) can be construed as contributory negligence.

Put it to the test yourself and ask yourself the questions next time you are out in either the car or on the bike

Can I give the correct signal at the correct time?
Can I give the correct signal of intent?
Is there anyone around who will benefit from the signal I am considering giving?

If the answer is no, then no point in giving one, but.... Be prepared to revise that plan as the answers to the questions may change as the situation develops.

How many of you have turned into your driveway in the early hours of the morning having been out working or whatever, and you as a force of habit indicate to turn? Who are you signaling to? The local tom cat?

Poor and incorrect signalling is down to poor education and laziness on the part of the motoring public (both 4 wheels and 2) and like most bad habits, they are not prepared to do anything about it because as mentioned by others, the majority think they are a good or excellent driver when the reality is that most are an awful or bad driver.

The bottom line is, rather than just signal because that is what you you were taught typical DSA style to do, use the advanced riders favourite word "Consider"
 
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