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JayTee

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Absolutely. However as memsahib is clinically vulnerable we may have to adjourn into the motorhome for a chat.
Yep! Absolutely understand mate, can’t make it this weekend as have arranged a surprise for my lady friend but sometime during the week would be good as long as it is convenient for you.
 

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I suspect you attempting to dry hump Simon at the moment might not go down well either mate !
That was for Squag‘s benefit John, always liked the bogtrotters, specially as they trounced the Welsh last weekend ;).
 

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Now Malone is happily back at home and hopefully on the way to recovery …..I lost a dear friend a couple of years ago to a heart attack and it was so unnecessary….he took himself to bed as he ‘didn’t feel well’ and sadly was found dead by his wife the next morning. His internet search history revealed that he had been searching on things like ‘chest and arm pains’ ‘heart attack symptoms’ and the like.

While Dave was a heart attack waiting to happen (massively overweight, probably drank a bit too much, poor diet and little exercise) he went way too young. The odds are he would still be with us now if he had called for an ambulance.

I know it’s a bit morbid but the moral is ‘ffs call an ambulance or get yourself to A&E if you have chest and/or arm pains’. Nobody will accuse you of wasting their time if it’s not heart related.
 

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The biggest difficulty these days with calling 999 for an ambulance is convincing the person on the other end that it is an EMERGENCY! and having to explain many times where in the world you are as they appear to be centrally located and haven’t got a clue where places are. Too often you are made to feel you are disturbing them and can’t you make your own way into hospital. With me listening to one end of the conversation I told my bruv-in-law to load me in the car and drag me into A&E and leave me on the floor. And yes, I was another with a pack of Rennes in my hand
 

Pow-Lo

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The biggest difficulty these days with calling 999 for an ambulance is convincing the person on the other end that it is an EMERGENCY! and having to explain many times where in the world you are as they appear to be centrally located and haven’t got a clue where places are. Too often you are made to feel you are disturbing them and can’t you make your own way into hospital. With me listening to one end of the conversation I told my bruv-in-law to load me in the car and drag me into A&E and leave me on the floor. And yes, I was another with a pack of Rennes in my hand
Ma P called 999 two years ago after she found a kid passed out on the pavement, 0600 hours, early January, freezing cold. I came by on my way to the gym and she handed phone to me. Long story short, silly bollocks started showing signs of life and the stupid f'ing cow on the end of the phone told me to roll on him onto his back. I point blank refused, first politely and then a bit more assertively. I asked her since when does anyone in possession of half of one brain cell ever roll a semi-conscious person onto their back? She didn't like that. I hope that call was listened to and she got the sausage.

This is one of the reasons I have very little, if any, faith in the NHS.

However, I can understand why they can appear difficult on the phone. I read in the news a few weeks ago the ten stupidest 999 calls of 2021. the winner, hands down, some stupid f'ing tart called 999 because her boyfriend refused to kiss her.
 

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Some of you may remember my good pals Dave & Heather from the bashes, couple of years back Dave was asleep on the sofa when suddenly their dog shot up & started licking his face, he woke up with a pain in his chest, rushed to hospital, emergency triple bypass, now good as new. Saved by the dog
 

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Ma P called 999 two years ago after she found a kid passed out on the pavement, 0600 hours, early January, freezing cold. I came by on my way to the gym and she handed phone to me. Long story short, silly bollocks started showing signs of life and the stupid f'ing cow on the end of the phone told me to roll on him onto his back. I point blank refused, first politely and then a bit more assertively. I asked her since when does anyone in possession of half of one brain cell ever roll a semi-conscious person onto their back? She didn't like that. I hope that call was listened to and she got the sausage.

This is one of the reasons I have very little, if any, faith in the NHS.

However, I can understand why they can appear difficult on the phone. I read in the news a few weeks ago the ten stupidest 999 calls of 2021. the winner, hands down, some stupid f'ing tart called 999 because her boyfriend refused to kiss her.
You forgot summat...Well, did she?
 

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The frightening bit is that you can have a heart attack and not even know.

When I was admitted with my issues, the Cardiologist asked how long ago I had suffered my heart attack. "What heart attack?" says I

Long story short, it transpired that I had suffered what is called a silent heart attack some months previously. I recall in December the previous year feeling really unwell for about 10 days whilst the Mrs was visiting her brother in Vienna, but thought nothing of it.

So where I had always been led to believe that a heart attack always resulted in major pain and the like, the reality was that I had quite a big heart attack and I simply felt unwell for a week.

Even when the dilated cardio myopathy kicked in (and the heart attack was probably the start of it), I felt no pain, I simply could not breathe, I lost my appetite and I added 30kg of fluid which meant that I could not do anything other than sleep because I was drowning in fluid.

Its frightening when you find out these things....
 

JayTee

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The biggest difficulty these days with calling 999 for an ambulance is convincing the person on the other end that it is an EMERGENCY! and having to explain many times where in the world you are as they appear to be centrally located and haven’t got a clue where places are. Too often you are made to feel you are disturbing them and can’t you make your own way into hospital. With me listening to one end of the conversation I told my bruv-in-law to load me in the car and drag me into A&E and leave me on the floor. And yes, I was another with a pack of Rennes in my hand
Fully agree mate, back in 2017 my missus was starting to go into the first stages of sepsis from cellulitis in her leg which had yet to make a physical appearance, her symptoms were typical, confusion, shivering, high temperature and quite uncharacteristicly bad language and non cooperation. She had suffered this on many an occasion in the 15 years of her disability and I got used to spotting the symptoms.
On dialling 999 I got a tick box triage reaction from the operator despite me telling her this was a well trodden path and no it was not a stroke or heart attack but what was needed was urgent intravenous antibiotics. Despite me explaining this she insisted on me trying to get Lyn to do all the tests for the aforementioned, this was impossible with Lyn getting very distressed and more belligerent as we went on. In the end I went outside and basically lied untill the tick box had run it’s course, when the ambulance arrived the paramedics assured me Lyn had ticked all the boxes for sepsis and I had done the right thing.
Very frustrating.
 

slim63

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Fully agree mate, back in 2017 my missus was starting to go into the first stages of sepsis from cellulitis in her leg which had yet to make a physical appearance, her symptoms were typical, confusion, shivering, high temperature and quite uncharacteristicly bad language and non cooperation. She had suffered this on many an occasion in the 15 years of her disability and I got used to spotting the symptoms.
On dialling 999 I got a tick box triage reaction from the operator despite me telling her this was a well trodden path and no it was not a stroke or heart attack but what was needed was urgent intravenous antibiotics. Despite me explaining this she insisted on me trying to get Lyn to do all the tests for the aforementioned, this was impossible with Lyn getting very distressed and more belligerent as we went on. In the end I went outside and basically lied untill the tick box had run it’s course, when the ambulance arrived the paramedics assured me Lyn had ticked all the boxes for sepsis and I had done the right thing.
Very frustrating.
That tick box rubbish if you phone 101 does my head in they are just operators with no medical knowledge at all, after going through it all both on the phone and online recently with my own issues and not so long ago with the little one I wont be doing it again, calling 999 or going to a local drop in centre is far better but still a poor service imo

Not so long ago a mate who had suffered a heart attack in his 30's and wasnt expected to survive very long started to feel unwell with chest pain so his mrs phoned 999 , despite telling them of his previous issues straight away they insisted on going through the checklist, half way through he had a heart attack :mad:
 

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It seems very clear to me now that I’ve been unwell for a long time. My normal routine included walking miss Molly first thing in the morning after breakfast. Then maybe I’d potter about in the garage, end up taking her for walkies later on.

Since Christmas I’ve felt tireder sooner, it was getting a chore to move the bikes around in the garage, especially awkward pushing them up the slight incline of the driveway to then 3 point turn them to face the other way to get a different one on the ramp. It also got to the point that I’d drive us to the local park for walkies, then drive home again, rather than walking the extra roadwork to get to the park.

It was then my decision was made to sell off the 2 big bikes, and make a bit of room and less of a concern for me.

Then a day before my episode I can recall walking to the park and resting at the top of the footbridge over the main road and turning around and coming back. I was knackered.

Admittedly I’ve only been home a short while and I am rather breathless with a chest infection, but today I feel better than I have for several weeks.
 

T.C

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Admittedly I’ve only been home a short while and I am rather breathless with a chest infection, but today I feel better than I have for several weeks.
Give it time and I am sure you will say similar, but now people are always surprised when they ask how I am and I tell them that I feel healthier and better now than I have done since I was about 35
 
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