Great Britain

[jontheone]

working in the heat of a hot climate, no thanks,
but retiring there, mmmmmmmm.

couldnt leave my kids and my mum.
but every foreign holiday i have i dream of a lottery win.

 

[Geoff James]

I'm not sure what lit Cougar's fuse :dunno: but in reality, the world is so small now and change is so rapid that national boundaries (and nationalism come to that) is far less relevant than it used to be. Where you live and work is pretty much a matter of personal choice and that's all it is. It's stupid to criticise anyone for either staying in one place or leaving it. If you've got portable skills, then the world is definitely your oyster.

Change also drives things. A Kiwi friend worked in Ireland for a bit when it was lauded as a model growth economy to make some good money whilst seeing a bit of the world after graduation. A few scant years later, its reputation is somewhat different. No country has a good reputation which is guaranteed forever.

 

[derek kelly]

I happen to like the Union Jack

It's only the Union Jack when flying from a Jack staff on a Royal Navy ship, it's the Union flag at all other times, Whilst serving my time in the Royal Navy I was proud to attach the Union flag to the Jack staff & raise it for "colours" at sunrise & then lower it & neatly fold it away for sunset, but that was when I was young & naive & the World was a big adventure waiting to happen.
Unfortunately since that time I have come to realise that the "wartime spirit" no longer exists & I put this down to the poor me & blame everyone else culture generated by the constant shafting from the Government.
If I only had myself to consider I would be out of this country like a shot & wouldn't look back.

 

[stormer]

I'm not sure what lit Cougar's fuse :dunno: but in reality, the world is so small now and change is so rapid that national boundaries (and nationalism come to that) is far less relevant than it used to be. Where you live and work is pretty much a matter of personal choice and that's all it is. It's stupid to criticise anyone for either staying in one place or leaving it. If you've got portable skills, then the world is definitely your oyster.

Change also drives things. A Kiwi friend worked in Ireland for a bit when it was lauded as a model growth economy to make some good money whilst seeing a bit of the world after graduation. A few scant years later, its reputation is somewhat different. No country has a good reputation which is guaranteed forever.

Like you said Geoff...."optimism and friendliness of the people makes it hard to beat.".........:-0)@tu*

Room for 2 more plus Jaws by all accounts...:yo:

 

[derek kelly]

My brain is getting old & tired also it was 5 o clock am when I posted my previous & I am getting the Union Jack confused with the White Ensign which was raised at Sunrise & lowered at sunset, the Union Jack stayed on the Jack staff.

 

[stormer]

My brain is getting old & tired also it was 5 o clock am when I posted my previous & I am getting the Union Jack confused with the White Ensign which was raised at Sunrise & lowered at sunset, the Union Jack stayed on the Jack staff.

But you are right the correct name is the Union Flag!

 

[Cougar377]

I'm not sure what lit Cougar's fuse :dunno: but in reality, the world is so small now and change is so rapid that national boundaries (and nationalism come to that) is far less relevant than it used to be. Where you live and work is pretty much a matter of personal choice and that's all it is. It's stupid to criticise anyone for either staying in one place or leaving it. If you've got portable skills, then the world is definitely your oyster.

Change also drives things. A Kiwi friend worked in Ireland for a bit when it was lauded as a model growth economy to make some good money whilst seeing a bit of the world after graduation. A few scant years later, its reputation is somewhat different. No country has a good reputation which is guaranteed forever.

I've got no problem with people taking opportunity where they can...life's tough wherever you are. You get back what you put in... most of the time.
What gets my goat isn't that people seek new horizons, it's the fact that they then seem hell bent on slagging off "the old country". It's as if they either need to justify the move or it's a way of proving to your new found friends that you're now one of them.

Make your bed, lie in it, but for f*ck sake shut the f*ck up about how great it is where you are and how bad it was where you came from.

If it's that good where you are then where do you find the time to whine on about how bad it was where you came from and how good it is now that you've landed in Utopia?

There's a lot wrong with this country but there ain't enough wrong with it that I'd want to leave it. Sure, there's some fantastic parts of the world to visit, but under the veneer, behind the touristy image, most of them are a damn sight worse than this country to live in.

I'd rather stand up and say I'm British than any other nationality. I could not find it in myself to take an oath of allegiance to another country.

I wonder sometimes what goes through peoples minds when they change nationalities and have to do that....

 

[Geoff James]

I'm not sure whether you're whinging directly at me or generalising but if you look at my first post, nowhere do I slag off Britain, simply responded to the entirely reasonable question by the OP.

I will add, however, that you almost never hear rants like that outside the UK. People just get on with life.

 

[Cougar377]

I'm not sure whether you're whinging directly at me or generalising but if you look at my first post, nowhere do I slag off Britain, simply responded to the entirely reasonable question by the OP.

I will add, however, that you almost never hear rants like that outside the UK. People just get on with life.

" Not one of us could find a good reason as to why we would want to return.

Some could on peeps, what reasons are there to stay / return to Britain ?
"

Not whingeing at you at all...but rather because I'd like to know why Osprey bothered posting the above? :dunno:

Are you looking for a reason to return, Osprey or were you, as I suspect, just baiting the hook? p0pc0rn41

 

[Cougar377]

...but do you have any particular thoughts on the subject either way...? :-0)

I may come down off the fence...;-0))

 

[derek kelly]

I may come down off the fence...;-0))

The fence made out of Canadian pine which has been processessed in a Canadian wood mill & then sent to Britain so it can be erected by Polish fencers?
Or is it a metal fence that at one time would have been crafted in one of our British owned companies in our own Steel cities by our own British Artisans?













































Or did you get the local Blacksmith to make it for you? :-0)

 

[karlos2000]

It will have been made in China. Every bloody thing is. The last Boeing I flew on was made from mainly Chinese components. :violin:

 

[Cougar377]

The fence made out of Canadian pine which has been processessed in a Canadian wood mill & then sent to Britain so it can be erected by Polish fencers?
Or is it a metal fence that at one time would have been crafted in one of our British owned companies in our own Steel cities by our own British Artisans?



Or did you get the local Blacksmith to make it for you? :-0)

8rfl@8rfl@8rfl@8rfl@

 

[Wolfie]

Two things absolutely f*ck me off about this thread...

1. All you f*ckwits that bang about being english (note the small "e") like you're a human stick of rock....cut you open and it'll say "english till I die".
Get f*ckin real...you're a mongrel race made up of...among others ...the french, germans, scandinavians, romans, spanish...the list goes on.
If you showed up at Crufts you'd be shown the door, with a well placed Savil Row brogue up yer arse...


Rant over.

Scot...Brit...and f*ckin proud to still be here in Great Britain.

I happen to like the Union Jack...the rest of you so-called nationalistic twats can go f*ck yerselves.

English by birth and proud of her.


sorry just read you are a jock that explains it.

By the way it aint all true you know some people apart from the jocks like them as well. Now Now run along and get me some more oil whilst me and my country support you in everything you do,

tell you what, lets get all the jocks out of the english government, stop sending them millions and millions of english pounds a year to help their little government, bring our oil into an english port so theirs dry up.

And as for the union flag, feck off the cross of st george in the only flag worth having.

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
Dishonour not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you.
Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not;
For there is none of you so mean and base,
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!'

found what i was looking for.

I once heard that the pronunciation of the Scottish name Home was changed to Hume after disastrous results during a battle when the war-cry "Home! Home!" was shouted and soldiers all headed home.

and the other one was.

fook this we aint fighting 2 of them english bastids said the thousand scottish warriors

 

[mickeystitch]

wht the fook

why would you want to stay in great britain :dunno:

all a load of inbred , scrap metal dealing sailer shagging carb riding arse bandits

 

[Wolfie]

why would you want to stay in great britain :dunno:

all a load of inbred , scrap metal dealing sailer shagging carb riding arse bandits

what is a sailer???

the rest i can relate to, but a sailer???

 

[mickeystitch]

and

Dyxlexic coonts like me 8rfl@

 

[stormer]

sorry just read you are a jock that explains it.

8rfl@8rfl@

 

[willibet]

I've lived in a few countries, European (Portugal, Azores, Germany), Asian (Singapore, Indonesia) and others. In places with life-styles as diverse as Bangladesh and Straya* and everything in between. Depending on how long you need to be there to have "lived" there, possibly tens more too. And I loved at least something about all of them. But I was always glad to come home for the simple reason that England/Britain is my home and I love it. Okay, the roads are woeful, the rain can get you down and the way the place is run can be frustrating to put it mildly. But it's still my home. I love the people, the history (I don't care if we are the bastard descendants of Roman/Saxon/Viking rape victims, it's part of what made us what we are), the countryside, the sport, the diversity of such a small place, even the weather (don't knock it until you go somewhere with no seasons and two types of weather - hot and dry or hot and raining. Both occurring every day.) - everything.

How can anyone decry Britain if they have lived abroad and they are back, or worse if they've never lived abroad? As someone mentioned, the world's a small place now and certainly so far as EU countries are concerned, you can decide at any time you will be off to live and work there and no-one can stop you. No-one apart from yourself that is. So if everywhere else is better (its not, by the way, it's just different) why not fuck off and live there? "Oh I would but I have a job/wife that won't fly/elderly aunt/cat/dearly loved wisteria" Fuck off, that's bollocks. Scared more like.

And if you do live abroad, then I bet you miss at least one thing from being home. And I'll be amazed if it's only one.

* For the record Sydney, NSW was the best place I ever lived in. It had it all. But it isn't home.

 

[Howard]

I've lived in a few countries, European (Portugal, Azores, Germany), Asian (Singapore, Indonesia) and others. In places with life-styles as diverse as Bangladesh and Straya* and everything in between. Depending on how long you need to be there to have "lived" there, possibly tens more too. And I loved at least something about all of them. But I was always glad to come home for the simple reason that England/Britain is my home and I love it. Okay, the roads are woeful, the rain can get you down and the way the place is run can be frustrating to put it mildly. But it's still my home. I love the people, the history (I don't care if we are the bastard descendants of Roman/Saxon/Viking rape victims, it's part of what made us what we are), the countryside, the sport, the diversity of such a small place, even the weather (don't knock it until you go somewhere with no seasons and two types of weather - hot and dry or hot and raining. Both occurring every day.) - everything.

How can anyone decry Britain if they have lived abroad and they are back, or worse if they've never lived abroad? As someone mentioned, the world's a small place now and certainly so far as EU countries are concerned, you can decide at any time you will be off to live and work there and no-one can stop you. No-one apart from yourself that is. So if everywhere else is better (its not, by the way, it's just different) why not fuck off and live there? "Oh I would but I have a job/wife that won't fly/elderly aunt/cat/dearly loved wisteria" Fuck off, that's bollocks. Scared more like.

And if you do live abroad, then I bet you miss at least one thing from being home. And I'll be amazed if it's only one.

* For the record Sydney, NSW was the best place I ever lived in. It had it all. But it isn't home.

I will second that, best place I have ever lived in as well..@tu*