Fu*#ing Bike Alarm

[parttimepilot]

Been doing a few shifts cheffing to help a mate out.
Just finished a 13 hour shift tonight at 1030

Bike started as normal and set off for 35 mile trip home. Stopped for petrol about 5 miles from home, tried to start the Bird and the fukin fob wouldnt work.

Had to phone Mrs P and get her out of bed to drive to tge garagecwith the spare set of keys:rant:

What a fekin waste of space bike alarms are

Anyone know how easy it is to properly remove a Datatool piece if shit alarm system from a carbed Bird?

I would appreciate some constructive comments prior to the expected piss takes roll out

I know I should really post in the help section, but to be honest Im far too tired and pissed off just now to post twice :rant::cry:s04pb0x6s04pb0x6

 

[mikeyw64]

That reminds me I really need to check see how the PIN override function is set up just in case I get caught out like this

See page 8 of the user manual (presuming you have a sytem3/sytem 21 same as myself)


Hmmm just found this on their website as well, £19 for amended Certificates of installation

Makes mental note to also find out where the fuse is

 

[parttimepilot]

Fuck the over ride. I want shot of the fekin thing. Nobody takes any notice if an alarm goes off and any insurance discount isnt worth the investment. Ican get fully comp for under ?100.00

Fact is alarms are nothing more than a major pain in the arse.

To be honest, If the only option was a new wiring loomv I would fit one just to get rid of this joke ofxa theft deterrant

 

[mikeyw64]

know what you mean, I wouldnt have paid to have it fitted.

And the more I read the more depressed I get. I mean take the despiking instructions if you forget to disarm & remove the alarm fuse bfore disconnecting the battery and it throws a wobbly.

Sit back & wait 6 hours!!

Then if you believ the Datatool FAQs

I want a set of fitting instructions where can I get them »
Sorry you can’t. The System 3 is insurance approved and dealer fit only.

I want to bypass my alarm. How do I do this? »
Simple answer, you don’t. Removal of the alarm is a complex affair and has several safety issues tied to it we would not recommend any un-authorised person to remove or modify their system. If you do you will invalidate your warranty and possibly also your insurance. Datatool (UK) Ltd will accept no responsibility or warranty claim for any unit where the unit has been modified or tampered with by un-authorised persons.

Ok that seems a good enough reason to do a bit more googling !!


EDIT:

Ahhh doesn't look so bad ;o)

http://www.matt-thornton.net/blog/how-to-remove-a-datatool-system-3-from-a-honda-cbr600fx

Or

http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1495549&postcount=13

{Disconnect the +ve feed to the alarm, open the alarm and bridge terminals 1&2, bridge terminals 5&6.}

Err - it was Datatool that told me how to dissarm the thing

There are 14 terminals along the top of the unit - a group of 6 and a group of 8.

Numbered from the left 1-14, bridge the following:

1&2 - Engine immobiliser
5&6 - Starter immobiliser

(by "bridge" - I mean add a shorting link across the terminals, leaving the original wires in place)

Also - disconnect the output to the sounder

The above causes no damage and means that you do not have to start ripping off sheathing to follow cables.

If you decide to send the alarm back for repair - simply mark all the cable ends and link the wires to 1/2, 5/6.

Al

 

[parttimepilot]

This alarm system has been on it ferca looong time. Bike is 16 years old & my dad, barrie, owned it for 13 years. I think the alarm may have been fitted by the original owner.

Either way, its not under warranty so thats not an issue
Getting stranded again is though...

 

[andyBeaker]

Now theres a coincidence - this happened to a guy at work a couple of weeks ago. My view was 'have you EVER changed the fob battery and what sort of knob never has the spare fob AND the instructions and PIN to disable it manually on them at all times'.

Guess what the answers were....

Hardly the fault of the alarm.

;-0))

 

[derek kelly]

and what sort of knob never has the spare fob AND the instructions and PIN to disable it manually on them at all times'.


;-0))

When some twat bangs you over the head & rifles your pockets while you're out for the count don't bother looking for your bike as it will be long gone.

I would never have an alarm fitted, complete waste of time & money.

Colleague took his bb to a local electronics place I think they charged about ?50 to remove the alarm.

 

[Me!]

Take it out

I took a dataltool out of a 97 carb recently. Pretty easy to be fair. Find the alarm
Module which is probably under the seat somewhere. Disconnect battery. Trace the wiring out of the module. It will branch off in different directions. It will
obviously be attached to the loom and probably wrapped in black electrical tape. Slowly unwind the tape and you will uncover the joined / soldered (if you're lucky!) bits. Remove the alarm wiring and re-solder / comnect the original wiring back together. It's pretty simple, work in a methodical fashion but there's probably only about 4 connections in total. Took me about an hour to do the whole job. Couldn't wait to get shut of mine

 

[gypsy]

Can we start taking the piss now?@tu*

 

[andyBeaker]

Can we start taking the piss now?@tu*

I think he started that himself in the first post:-0)

 

[Dark Angel]

Why not just put a new battery in the failed fob if it wasn't the alarm that was at fault? It's never given you any problems before, has it?

...Dunnit make yer mad when it happens, tough...?

 

[Centaur]

As Me says PTP...

providing you have a soldering iron, preferably some shrink wrap or at least good tape then it is easy. Most of the connections can be cut off but there will be one place where the alarm has been spliced in to an existing wire in the loom. These two connections must be cut out and the original wire rejoined. Just steadily work your way through it and check twice before cutting. Enjoy!:-0)

 

[ianrobbo1]

Colleague took his bb to a local electronics place I think they charged about ?50 to remove the alarm.

You've another that brought it here to get removed, more wires than softmick!!:bang::bang: I ended up bringing an electrician in, even he was stumped for a bit, till it was realised some twat had stuck extra wires in that didn't actually do anything!! :dunno:

for the "discount" from your insurers and the price of the alarm/grief it gives people, it simply doesn't make sense to have one!! :dunno: invest in a good chain and padlock, it'll be more of a deterrent!!:-0)

 

[parttimepilot]

Why not just put a new battery in the failed fob if it wasn't the alarm that was at fault? It's never given you any problems before, has it?

...Dunnit make yer mad when it happens, tough...?

Only had the bike for a month or so.

Barrie had it for 13 Years, probably never changed the fob battery

 

[parttimepilot]

Opened the fob last night to see what battery it. Has. It's a fekin 12 volt one. Similar diameter to.a AAA battery but about 1/2 the length. Don't know where I'll get one of those.

 

[Centaur]

You feckin younguns...

Only had the bike for a month or so.

Barrie had it for 13 Years, probably never changed the fob battery

always trying to blame your elders and betters.8rfl@

 

[andyBeaker]

Opened the fob last night to see what battery it. Has. It's a fekin 12 volt one. Similar diameter to.a AAA battery but about 1/2 the length. Don't know where I'll get one of those.

Even though you don't like me, post up the numbers on the battery - I have quite a few spares from various fobs (always a good idea that8rfl@) and might be able to help you out.


Other than that Ebay is your friend.

 

[robsbird]

Opened the fob last night to see what battery it. Has. It's a fekin 12 volt one. Similar diameter to.a AAA battery but about 1/2 the length. Don't know where I'll get one of those.

why don't you try putting ya self out and look that battery is VERY common
in remotes

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/..._productId_379527_langId_-1_categoryId_255229

@tu*

 

[robsbird]

Even though you don't like me, post up the numbers on the battery - I have quite a few spares from various fobs (always a good idea that8rfl@) and might be able to help you out.


Other than that Ebay is your friend.

its a VR22 .........@tu*

 

[Oldbull]

What bike is it on and what alarm is it... first and formost (carb or EFI )

even the so called good expensive ones have a expected life span of less than ten years.

Ive just taken my third one off, this time off my Yam...

the early ones are easy enough but the later ones can be tricky need above info first...

ferk the fobs ...put the damm thing in the bin.... IT WILL LET YOU DOWN AGAIN