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Wolfie

Is a lunp
after all, the more you ride, the better you become.


disagree, pratice does not always make perfect.

we all have a built in skill level, and no amount of training will take you above that level but the training will help you to try and reach it.
 
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Adam Rickenberg

Guest
Wolfie..

Wolfie said:
disagree, pratice does not always make perfect.

we all have a built in skill level, and no amount of training will take you above that level but the training will help you to try and reach it.


Also - I agree with that.

I was trying to say that the more one rides, the more adept one will become - as a general rule.

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(just read over that statement... feckin' awrite formal 'n all in my reply!!)
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
Club Sponsor
Adam Rickenberg said:
Also - I agree with that. I was trying to say that the more one rides, the more adept one will become - as a general rule.



Also more complacent, the more familiar you are with a route the more you tend to switch off to the road.
 

Shalershasker

Old Hand
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Adam Rickenberg said:
If you look at the bottom right corner of every post, you'll see a "Quote" button. Click that and a new reply page will open with the persons original quote inserted at the top of your text box...... Simple! Q.E.D.

HTH
Cheers for that mate, much appriciated :yo:
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
Cobblers DK

derek kelly said:
Also more complacent, the more familiar you are with a route the more you tend to switch off to the road.

If you're out "bimbling" then fair enough...............

BUT....................

If you're out to RIDE and push the limit then a road you know really well should be ridden with as much care planning and skill as a road you don't know at all.

Don't believe me?

WALK your favourite road and see how much more you notice?

Isn't that what most of the pro racers do even on circuits that they know like the back of their hand? [truth be known - they ride it on scoots cos they've had a great lesson from the Ian Slobbo Book of Slacking!!]
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
LOL

lumpy said:
I bet you'd find it difficult to be so erratic at walking pace......although that is slightly quicker than your riding pace:lol:


Maybe Lim Plump

but you have to accept that my response to DK's cobblers was accurate?

No offense to DK though :}

Anyone who even THINKS about riding the bike knowing that they might not fully concentrate should stay at home with the bike in the garage
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
Anyone who even THINKS about riding the bike knowing that they might not fully concentrate should stay at home with the bike in the garage


so no



gps
intercom
music
etc etc then eh bert?????
 

Fat Bert

Registered User
Quiet right Wilf

GPS is pre-programmed at home - with sound disabled

No comms

No music

No luggage

No hope!!

LOL
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
waste of feckin time having it then aint it.


dark vision, no distractions, earplugs, are you asleep????


Mac you might of been right, the riding style may of been due to him waking up every now and then????
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
Club Sponsor
Fat Bert said:
Maybe Lim Plump

but you have to accept that my response to DK's cobblers was accurate?

No offense to DK though :}

Anyone who even THINKS about riding the bike knowing that they might not fully concentrate should stay at home with the bike in the garage




No offence taken Bert, but even the best riders will admit that they sometimes have concentration lapses,
As I have previously posted, many years ago I actually fell asleep whilst riding to work, (I only did it the once though) and I have spoken to a number of people who have done the same.
 
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CBRBillXX

Guest
just a small rant.....

I'm sure there have (and always will be) been many discussions regarding IAM and their like (I don't intend that to be a separatist or exclusivist remark when I say THEIR LIKE). I was a Star Rider instructor for about 11 years a good few years ago and yes I have a beard. I had a very high (first time) pass rate for the part 2 test (around 98% I believe). But in all that time with 'quite a few' trainees many of whom were very quick to point out that it was ok, they were advanced drivers, only three people could give me the correct sequence of the traffic lights. Never mind the meanings of the various lights! I got back into biking about four years ago and after a month or two on a GPZ500S we moved onto a CBR1000 and in June we upgraded to a BLACKbird. I've been on a couple of runs with folks who are Observers and Senior Observers and was a little bit.....shall we just say 'dismayed' at their attitude and riding 'behaviour'. One of them would often disappear completely into my blind spot and seemed to be oblivious to the fact. Once in front he seemed to be fond of pointing out (with some rather dubious hand signals) hazards he felt we should all have been aware of (actually thanks?.we WERE aware of them and quite some time before he decided to point them out to us lesser mortals.) At one point the same person failed completely to notice that when we parked up in a small Scottish town, he hadn?t quite put his (and it pains me to say this) Blackbird onto it?s mainstand properly so that as he turned away it had to be caught by another member of the group before it rather unceremoniously landed on its side. The local group of IAM S.O?s and O?s meet at a local filling station at the weekends whereupon us lesser beings can approach them so that we can have their knowledge imparted upon us should we so wish but it?s sad to see just how many of these worthies have small number plates, tiny indicators (I?d rather people SAW that I intend to change position thanks) Black visors and leave their helmets perched on the seat or fuel tank of their machines whilst they are on the side stand. A friend of mine is also a Class One Police Instructor and has given up assessing IAM?s whether they be car or otherwise since he became VERY jaded at the way some of them were continually trying to tell him that HE was wrong and THEIR way was the ONLY way. Oh and yesterday our biking buddy got a text from her partner to say that one of the IAM motorcyclists had just missed riding into him head on as the biker was overtaking on a blind bend. Sorry for the length of the post and as was the case when I was teaching folks survival skills on bikes there are good and bad instructors so I don?t want this to appear as a assassination attempt on all IAM?s but I really do think they need to assess their own attitudes as well as the riding skills of their associates.:mad:
 
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D.S.

Guest
Wolfie said:
so no



gps
intercom
music
etc etc then eh bert?????


Top retort Trotsky - all unecessary distractions IMHO! Just like the cnuts in cars watching TV/Sat Nav, on the mobile, fiddling about with their 10,000watts of thumping bass, applying make-up and/or having a 3-course meal!
 
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