A chance to address your fears

[Barrie]

The World would be a better place if not for religion.

I agree Derek but it provokes a thought; Given that we need a set of basic rules to live by, the alternative I think would be anarchy, who would make the rules and enforce them? Would this not lead to some sort of religion? I'm not saying this is right, just sharing a thought which came from your statement.

 

[Centaur]

I agree, Bodmin.

Every day I thank God I'm an atheist. :bow:

 

[mick the knife]

I agree Derek but it provokes a thought; Given that we need a set of basic rules to live by, the alternative I think would be anarchy, who would make the rules and enforce them? Would this not lead to some sort of religion? I'm not saying this is right, just sharing a thought which came from your statement.

Dont know if you're a sci-fi fan or not, but there is a lovelly story line from the original StarTrek series which went over most peoples heads.
In true Trekky style they discover a planet which exsists through some kind of space time disfunction of the continuim . The people live an exsistance and culture according to the "Good Book" which just happen to be a biography of Al Capone.

 

[Dark Angel]

I walked away as my head began to hurt...

That’s because you were wrestling with a concept, Dell.

When most people talk about religion they talk in terms of “belief”, but I don’t see it as being as simple as that.

I see Religion as a concept, vaguely defined and endlessly disputed, based as it is upon vicarious human perceptions and interpretations rather than fact.

noun: concept; plural noun: concepts

an abstract idea; a general notion organized around a main idea or theme, plan or intention; a conception.

Religion?

Prove it.

 

[Barrie]

DK, whatever I say will be twisted to say what suits the little gang, I no more believe that the majority of white members here are racist, than I believe that all Muslims are bad. My whole ethos on life is that the majority are good, that just want the best for themselves and their family. However there is normally a vocal minority within in any group, race or country that are of ill intent, and this forum is no different. If I thought it so, I'd walk away.
Or to say it so that there is no ambiguity, I THINK THE LITTLE GANG I CALL THE DIRTY HALF DOZEN ARE BIGOTS, NOT ALL THE WHITE MEMBERS. UNLESS YOU'RE ABOUT TO TELL ME THEY ARE ALL OF THE MEMBERSHIP.
Sorry, I'm still finding it hard not to shout!

If you are including me on your list, please remove me. I am not and never have been bigoted. What I am fearful of is the threat to my way of life and the security of my family, in particular my grandchildren and their children to follow. If that is included in the definition of bigoted, then I have misunderstood the meaning of the word. I don't think so though. I believe the biggest threat to world peace today comes from Islam. Just for the record, I deplore racist bigotry of any sort, except the jokes that are spoken without malice.

 

[derek kelly]

That’s because you were wrestling with a concept, Dell.

When most people talk about religion they talk in terms of “belief”, but I don’t see it as being as simple as that.

I see Religion as a concept, vaguely defined and endlessly disputed, based as it is upon vicarious human perceptions and interpretations rather than fact.

noun: concept; plural noun: concepts

an abstract idea; a general notion organized around a main idea or theme, plan or intention; a conception.

Religion?

Prove it.

I'm walking away now as my head hurts....now, where's my bike pump.

 

[americanexpress]

I thought you were going to say you always wanted big tits. You really want moobs?

8rfl@8rfl@

Noooo!! I don't even really want to be in a gang! I find it amusing that I am a racist and a bigot: I just wanted clarification about anus and heinous. How was I to know that he was even touchier than he appeared :dunno:

I have worked with all races and religions for most of my professional life: and always enjoyed excellent relationships with them, they would find it highly amusing that I have been accused of bigotry h1d1ng2

 

[Dark Angel]

I'm walking away now as my head hurts....now, where's my bike pump.

:t

"The government must crack down on this disgusting craze of Pumping", a spokesman for the Nakhon Ratchasima hospital told reporters. "If this perversion catches on, it will destroy the cream of Thailand's manhood."

He was speaking after the remains of 13-year-old Charnchai Puanmuangpak had been rushed into the hospital's emergency room.

"Most 'Pumpers' use a standard bicycle pump," he explained, "inserting the nozzle far up their rectum, giving themselves a rush of air, creating a momentary high. This act is a sin against God."

Charnchai took it further still. He started using a two-cylinder foot pump, but even that wasn't exciting enough for him, and he boasted to friends that he was going to try the compressed air hose at a nearby gasoline station. They dared him to do it so, under cover of darkness, he snuck in.

Not realising how powerful the machine was, he inserted the tube deep into his rectum, and placed a coin in the slot. As a result, he died virtually instantly, but passers by are still in shock.

One woman thought she was watching a twilight firework display, and started clapping.

"We still haven't located all of him," say the police authorities. :dunno: "When that quantity of air interacted with the gas in his system, he nearly exploded. It was like an atom bomb went off or something."

"Pumping is the devil's pastime, and we must all say no to Satan," Ratchasima concluded. "Inflate your tires by all means, but then hide your bicycle pump where it cannot tempt you." :whi5tl:

:-0)​

 

[ScottyUK]

I agree Derek but it provokes a thought; Given that we need a set of basic rules to live by, the alternative I think would be anarchy, who would make the rules and enforce them? Would this not lead to some sort of religion? I'm not saying this is right, just sharing a thought which came from your statement.

Now this really does piss me off. This concept that religion owns good morals. What a fecking load of bollox!

Surely someone who can determine good and bad for themselves is in a better place than someone who blindly follows a book of illogical instructions?

 

[Bodmin]

Now this really does piss me off. This concept that religion owns good morals. What a fecking load of bollox!

Surely someone who can determine good and bad for themselves is in a better place than someone who blindly follows a book of illogical instructions?

Mmmmm, so following a religion is like using a Haynes manual then?

 

[Pow-Lo]

Thanks for the English lesson.

As to your personal attack, rather than be clever, I'd rather take pride in the fact that I'm able to think for myself. As to joining your gang, fucking read what I post and tell me if you really think I give a fuck about being a part of your little gang of bigots. I may not be clever, but I'm certainly not that dumb. Prick.

There you go again! You're unable to see what Amex was really saying so you therefore decide it's a personal insult and you subsequently retaliate in kind. All you're achieving here David, is alienating yourself even further. See point No. 10 of my post No. 57.

DK, whatever I say will be twisted to say what suits the little gang, I no more believe that the majority of white members here are racist, than I believe that all Muslims are bad. My whole ethos on life is that the majority are good, that just want the best for themselves and their family. However there is normally a vocal minority within in any group, race or country that are of ill intent, and this forum is no different. If I thought it so, I'd walk away.
Or to say it so that there is no ambiguity, I THINK THE LITTLE GANG I CALL THE DIRTY HALF DOZEN ARE BIGOTS, NOT ALL THE WHITE MEMBERS. UNLESS YOU'RE ABOUT TO TELL ME THEY ARE ALL OF THE MEMBERSHIP.
Sorry, I'm still finding it hard not to shout!

No one twists what you say. As you prove time and time again, you're perfectly capable of doing that yourself.

...Rockin'... 8rfl@

...Extreme acts provoke extreme reactions.

War is, and always will be, horrific by definition. Look at pictures of the devastation created by war in the trenches; bombing wars; and nuclear attacks; but: these were remote acts that depersonlised the true nature of the carnage committed to save the world from dictatorships based upon political concepts that weighed against free speech and the right to basic human freedoms regardless of race, creed or colour.

Now, war has become personalised; individualised; selective and, in the truest, most horrific sense of all, barbaric by design. The video testimonies of the murderers need no explanation. They commit acts that we, in the West, abhor; and our horror is shared by those victims of IS, unnamed and, perhaps, without number, who suffer at the hands of their so-called brothers.

Notwithstanding this; war can never be justified. There is always an alternative to war; but that alternative has never been "religion".

Religion has always been the cause of discontent; disagreement; and discord. Historically, Religion has proved consistently to be a curse upon humanity.

The proof?

...Ask yourself: "Religion: where would we be, today, without it?"

Apply the same question to "Science"; "Compassion"; "Empathy"; "Learning" and "Love" - then consider your conclusions.

Now you had to go and fuck up a perfectly good thread with a logical, intelligent and well-thought out response! :bang:

 

[ianrobbo1]

I don't really care what Davey boy has to say about "us" he's just another Troll :wank: IMO, and the sooner he fucks off, harmony and general insults will again infest this little bit of the interweb as it has done for many a year, and if were lucky, without his likes, for many more years!! :dunno:

 

[derek kelly]

:t

"The government must crack down on this disgusting craze of Pumping", a spokesman for the Nakhon Ratchasima hospital told reporters. "If this perversion catches on, it will destroy the cream of Thailand's manhood."

He was speaking after the remains of 13-year-old Charnchai Puanmuangpak had been rushed into the hospital's emergency room.

"Most 'Pumpers' use a standard bicycle pump," he explained, "inserting the nozzle far up their rectum, giving themselves a rush of air, creating a momentary high. This act is a sin against God."

Charnchai took it further still. He started using a two-cylinder foot pump, but even that wasn't exciting enough for him, and he boasted to friends that he was going to try the compressed air hose at a nearby gasoline station. They dared him to do it so, under cover of darkness, he snuck in.

Not realising how powerful the machine was, he inserted the tube deep into his rectum, and placed a coin in the slot. As a result, he died virtually instantly, but passers by are still in shock.

One woman thought she was watching a twilight firework display, and started clapping.

"We still haven't located all of him," say the police authorities. :dunno: "When that quantity of air interacted with the gas in his system, he nearly exploded. It was like an atom bomb went off or something."

"Pumping is the devil's pastime, and we must all say no to Satan," Ratchasima concluded. "Inflate your tires by all means, but then hide your bicycle pump where it cannot tempt you." :whi5tl:

:-0)​

Why did they take the remains to the emergency room?????

The problem arises when you let people administer their own air, my chipmunks have been experimenting for years & have perfected the art of self inflation, this gives them a stealth mode & an ability to glide silently into enemy territory although this was top secret until the perverts got wind (get it) of it. :-0)

 

[Davey Bee]

Interesting,
I start to shout and the debate goes up by about 10 levels.
The dirty half dozen still want me to fuck off, but then who likes a mirror when you look bad.
They call me a troll then give 9 pages of response in 4 days to a little bit of public information I post.
They are so far up their own arse, that they still can't work out that I'm not a believer in any religion, but I believe in the right of others to believe without abuse or fear for their belief.
Ironically, when there was a question and answer session at the Mosque, lots of soft questions were asked, but clearly the elephant in the room "jihad" was avoided by the questioners. I "being a troll" asked the question, there was such a intake of breath (from the questioners) the room became a vacuum. However the guide did not bat an eyelid, they answered my questions on the subject calmly and clearly. They didn't call me a troll, they didn't tell to fuck off, they didn't call me a shit stirrer, they didn't even tell that I wasn't clever. Oh the contrast to their betters.

 

[sr71caspar]

How many questions did you ask them about Honda Blackbirds or just riding in general Davey?


None?



Next time you go to your mosque why not shout about motorbikes to them and when they turn on you because they have no interest in them you can come back on here and launch into a tirade about them being angry bilious racist homophobes with no tolerance for others beliefs.

 

[derek kelly]

Davey, you are just making yourself look a complete idiot.
You go into a Mosque & ask about Jihad, did you really believe that they were going to tell you how they are funding it directly or indirectly.
Ffs Davey, I cannot believe that there is anybody stupid enough to think they would get the complete truth from an open day in a Mosque.
Come for a look round Wakefield Prison, I'm sure the Governors will show you the very worst Prisoners we have, I am sure they will take you to the Wings where there are very few staff, I am sure they will let you talk to the staff who don't buy into the propaganda.
Wake up will you, open your eyes & ears take a good look at what is going on in the World.

 

[Pow-Lo]

Tell you what David, sell your bike(s) and convert to Islam. Then I think this impasse might reach a satisfactory conclusion.

 

[Pow-Lo]

The problem arises when you let people administer their own air, my chipmunks have been experimenting for years & have perfected the art of self inflation, this gives them a stealth mode & an ability to glide silently into enemy territory although this was top secret until the perverts got wind (get it) of it. :-0)

Now that's pretty clever; I didn't realise your 'munks were that close to mine in regard to technological advances.

By this time next week, mine will have perfected the process of dehydrating and desiccating themselves, being transported by atmospheric currents and then reconstituting themselves with a mixture of water and protein compounds.

 

[mick the knife]

Now that's pretty clever; I didn't realise your 'munks were that close to mine in regard to technological advances.

By this time next week, mine will have perfected the process of dehydrating and desiccating themselves, being transported by atmospheric currents and then reconstituting themselves with a mixture of water and protein compounds.

Well thats just plain silly, who's gonna pour the water on them huh huh huh, hadnt thought of that had you !

 

[sr71caspar]

Well thats just plain silly, who's gonna pour the water on them huh huh huh, hadnt thought of that had you !

'A mixture of water and protein compounds'

Sounds like Poo Loo means spunk.

I wonder if it's sprayed on liberally or injected into an orifice?