A chance to address your fears

[andyBeaker]

one well meaning post followed by 4 pages of what is largely bollox. Not helped by DaveyBee letting his passion being distorted by taking the bait more than once.....

Personally I have no difficulty in identifying individuals in this thread who, whether they mean to or not, portray them as having some level of racist tendencies.

Simple question, and I ask as a lot of the posts on here seem to suggest that the posters believe that this is the case.............

• Are all Muslims bad?

Yes or no. Simple. No 'buts'. One word. Yes or No. How you answer this to yourself might reveal a lot.

 

[Dark Angel]

• Are all Muslims bad?

Yes or no. Simple. No 'buts'. One word. Yes or No. How you answer this to yourself might reveal a lot.

I can't help but suggest that the na?vet? of your question probably reveals more about your own thought processes than you realise, Andrew.

 

[andyBeaker]

I can't help but suggest that the na?vet? of your question probably reveals more about your own thought processes than you realise, Andrew.

A very patronising response if I may be so bold.

Not naive in my opinion. Many people stereotype different groups by the acts of a minority.

In my opinion.

 

[Dark Angel]

A very patronising response if I may be so bold.

8rfl@

...As patronising as this...?

one well meaning post followed by 4 pages of what is largely bollox. Not helped by DaveyBee letting his passion being distorted by taking the bait more than once.....

...or this...?

Personally I have no difficulty in identifying individuals in this thread who, whether they mean to or not, portray them as having some level of racist tendencies.

...or this...?

• Are all Muslims bad?

Yes or no. Simple. No 'buts'. One word. Yes or No. How you answer this to yourself might reveal a lot.

...I think not.

 

[derek kelly]

Are all Muslims bad? Obviously not, but let's look at this simplistically, you have a classroom full of school kids, teacher turns his back & one of the kids makes a noise or throws something.
The teacher asks "who did that?" No answer, the whole class takes the punishment.
These Isis arseholes are sons & daughters of British Muslims, by their silence the parents are guilty.
Can't get the individual then collective punishment is the answer.

 

[Barrie]

one well meaning post followed by 4 pages of what is largely bollox. Not helped by DaveyBee letting his passion being distorted by taking the bait more than once.....

Personally I have no difficulty in identifying individuals in this thread who, whether they mean to or not, portray them as having some level of racist tendencies.

Simple question, and I ask as a lot of the posts on here seem to suggest that the posters believe that this is the case.............

• Are all Muslims bad?

Yes or no. Simple. No 'buts'. One word. Yes or No. How you answer this to yourself might reveal a lot.

Yes. Guilty by association. Joint Enterprise.

 

[Davey Bee]

How many questions did you ask them about Honda Blackbirds or just riding in general Davey?


None?



Next time you go to your mosque why not shout about motorbikes to them and when they turn on you because they have no interest in them you can come back on here and launch into a tirade about them being angry bilious racist homophobes with no tolerance for others beliefs.

Sr71casper
Your level of ignorance says so much about so many posters in this thread.
You're obviously not ready to be let loose in multicultural Britain, but as a first step, I f you ride a bike, (I don't mean keep one clean in a garage) take a ride down to the Ace Cafe, any Friday night or Sunday afternoon, this summer. Then count take a look at the number of Muslims riding motorcycles. Talk about a narrow minded. Muslims are no different to the rest of society, they drive cars, ride bikes, do sports. FFS open your eyes. By the way as I'm not a Muslim so I don't have a Mosque

DK,
If you want me to continue respecting your arguments, (although I disagree with them) you really need to stop taking my comments out of context. I used the story of my questions in the Mosque, to demonstrate the difference in attitude of that group and this forum, when faced with controversial questions. As to me not realising that any open day is about putting your best foot forward, well, you really aren't reading my post are you. That was the reason of pushing them out of their comfort zone, and sorry I have to shout, I THINK FOR MYSELF. As for judging any race or religion based on any prisoners, let alone, some of the worse criminals in the country. Come on you can do better than that.

 

[Davey Bee]

Are all Muslims bad? Obviously not, but let's look at this simplistically, you have a classroom full of school kids, teacher turns his back & one of the kids makes a noise or throws something.
The teacher asks "who did that?" No answer, the whole class takes the punishment.
These Isis arseholes are sons & daughters of British Muslims, by their silence the parents are guilty.
Can't get the individual then collective punishment is the answer.

This argument is so off the mark, the only thing I can do is quote the bible, "am I my brothers keeper?"

 

[Centaur]

I've asked you to name and shame, Davey.

You have ignored my polite request so now I say......Put up or shut up.

Personally, I would prefer you to just fuck off and stop disturbing our collective wa. You have proved you know next to nothing about Muslims individually or collectively so your opinions are totally valueless.

 

[mick the knife]

Muslims are different to the rest of society, they drive cars badly, cant ride bikes, chop innocent heads off, burn people in cages, dont do sports. FFS

.

Fixed it for yer

 

[Davey Bee]

You have ignored my polite request so now I say......Put up or shut up.

Personally, I would prefer you to just fuck off and stop disturbing our collective wa. You have proved you know next to nothing about Muslims individually or collectively so your opinions are totally valueless.

Go beat your wife, for daring to suggest you have a change to fish and chips.

 

[Barrie]

This argument is so off the mark, the only thing I can do is quote the bible, "am I my brothers keeper?"

Ah! The Bible, thank you. An eye for an eye. @tu*

 

[noobie]

Especially if your a japs

 

[derek kelly]

I am not my brothers keeper but if any of my brothers were committing attrocities then there is no way on this Earth that I would cover for them.

Fyi I was not likening Muslims to Prisoners, Prisoners are more tolerant of others, (except for the Muslim ones) I was pointing out that All establishments will only let you see what they want you to see.

 

[sr71caspar]

Sr71casper
Your level of ignorance says so much about so many posters in this thread.
You're obviously not ready to be let loose in multicultural Britain, but as a first step, I f you ride a bike, (I don't mean keep one clean in a garage) take a ride down to the Ace Cafe, any Friday night or Sunday afternoon, this summer. Then count take a look at the number of Muslims riding motorcycles. Talk about a narrow minded. Muslims are no different to the rest of society, they drive cars, ride bikes, do sports. FFS open your eyes. By the way as I'm not a Muslim so I don't have a Mosque.

My level of ignorance?

Ha ha ha ha ha.

So, how many questions about bikes did you ask in the mosque?


You kinda like ignoring awkward questions and trying to turn things against those who find your religious zealotry risible. It is quite noticeable to me that you haven't visited any other religious establishments and asked so called controversial questions of them.

Yes I do ride a bike and have been to the Ace and other bike meets, the interesting thing is;- I only saw bikers. I didn't care what their religious belief's were or what the colour of their skin was. They were all the same people to me.


You are nothing more than a pathetic troll who has failed, Davey.

 

[Davey Bee]

My level of ignorance?

Ha ha ha ha ha.

So, how many questions about bikes did you ask in the mosque?


You kinda like ignoring awkward questions and trying to turn things against those who find your religious zealotry risible. It is quite noticeable to me that you haven't visited any other religious establishments and asked so called controversial questions of them.

Yes I do ride a bike and have been to the Ace and other bike meets, the interesting thing is;- I only saw bikers. I didn't care what their religious belief's were or what the colour of their skin was. They were all the same people to me.


You are nothing more than a pathetic troll who has failed, Davey.

You really are a prick, I have written that I have no religious belief, therefore it would be hard to be a religious zealot, I started this thread passing on information, you have decided to join the queue to personally attack me, which makes you the troll. And if can't open your eyes to read a thread that makes you so angry I shouldn't expect you to open your eyes at any other time, but when you're at the Ace there are people of different religion, ethnicity and gender and that's what makes the social side so good, but you say you didn't notice any difference. Try taking a look, the difference is what makes us so alike. But that's going way above your head so I should stop. Prick

 

[derek kelly]

There you go again Davey, twisting what is said, a blind man can see that all Caspar is saying is that when he's amongst bikers all he sees is like minded people, without the need to wonder about their religion or to judge them because of their skin colour.

We are just going round & round with different slants on the same old arguments & much as I love getting my teeth into a good debate this one is boring the shit out of me now.

 

[sr71caspar]

You really are a prick, I have written that I have no religious belief, therefore it would be hard to be a religious zealot, I started this thread passing on information, you have decided to join the queue to personally attack me, which makes you the troll. And if can't open your eyes to read a thread that makes you so angry I shouldn't expect you to open your eyes at any other time, but when you're at the Ace there are people of different religion, ethnicity and gender and that's what makes the social side so good, but you say you didn't notice any difference. Try taking a look, the difference is what makes us so alike. But that's going way above your head so I should stop. Prick

Failed troll.

Trying to turn it around on to me.

Name calling.

As much as you'd like me to be, I'm not angry.

I'm not personally attacking you, I'm taking the piss out of you.

Look at what I wrote, not what your narrow minded, blinkered vision chose to imagine- I don't see religion or race because I accept everyone I meet as a human being. I don't separate people into different groups according to colour or creed like you do. I just see a lot of people with a common interest in bikes.

Anyway- what question about bikes did you ask in the mosque?

 

[Davey Bee]

Failed troll.

Trying to turn it around on to me.

Name calling.

As much as you'd like me to be, I'm not angry.

I'm not personally attacking you, I'm taking the piss out of you.

Look at what I wrote, not what your narrow minded, blinkered vision chose to imagine- I don't see religion or race because I accept everyone I meet as a human being. I don't separate people into different groups according to colour or creed like you do. I just see a lot of people with a common interest in bikes.

Anyway- what question about bikes did you ask in the mosque?

See me and you are similar, I don't see the difference in people either, always had trouble telling the difference between a prick and !!!!. You are such an help.
Now a bit of advice, if you don't like what I have to say and can't make a reasonable argument against it fuck off and read something else which is more to your level. I've not come into your home and forced you to hear my opinion, I've not taken over your keyboard, I've posted a bit of useful or useless information. For you or the others, to hijack my thread, telling me that I'm a wanker because I refuse to share your narrow minded views, makes you a fucking troll. Now fuck off, and play with you mates.


Boy that felt good.




Just taking the piss mate, getting in tune with this forum.

 

[Pow-Lo]

Fixed it for yer

You forgot to mention that they don't eat pork, don't (admit that they) drink alcohol and they have a high percentage of paedos and bottom botherers.