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derek kelly

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The Belgrano was a serious threat to our task force and as a WW2 battleship and at 12,000 tons fully loaded and with a decent array of weapons (including British Sea Cat missiles), the Belgrano was considered to be a threat to the Task Force even if she was outside of the Exclusion Zone.

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Sergeant Lee Clegg is a British Army soldier who was convicted of murder for his involvement in the shooting dead of two teenage joyriders in West Belfast, Northern Ireland.

The shooting took place in West Belfast on 30 September 1990. Clegg, then a private originally from Bradford, England, and his fellow soldiers manning the checkpoint on the Upper Glen Road, fired nineteen bullets into a stolen Vauxhall Astra that passed through their checkpoint travelling at high speed. Clegg fired four of the bullets, the last of which killed 18 year old passenger Karen Reilly. The driver, 17 year old Martin Peake, also died at the scene, and the third passenger, Markiewicz Gorman, escaped with minor injuries.

Clegg was sentenced to life imprisonment for murder in 1993, the court having decided that lethal force had been used without a lawful purpose. The fourth bullet was said to have been fired through the back of the car as it was leaving the checkpoint and was therefore no longer a threat to the soldiers.

Maggie was a murderer & should have been tried as such.
 

Pow-Lo

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Sergeant Lee Clegg is a British Army soldier who was convicted of murder for his involvement in the shooting dead of two teenage joyriders in West Belfast, Northern Ireland.

The shooting took place in West Belfast on 30 September 1990. Clegg, then a private originally from Bradford, England, and his fellow soldiers manning the checkpoint on the Upper Glen Road, fired nineteen bullets into a stolen Vauxhall Astra that passed through their checkpoint travelling at high speed. Clegg fired four of the bullets, the last of which killed 18 year old passenger Karen Reilly. The driver, 17 year old Martin Peake, also died at the scene, and the third passenger, Markiewicz Gorman, escaped with minor injuries.

Clegg was sentenced to life imprisonment for murder in 1993, the court having decided that lethal force had been used without a lawful purpose. The fourth bullet was said to have been fired through the back of the car as it was leaving the checkpoint and was therefore no longer a threat to the soldiers.

Maggie was a murderer & should have been tried as such.

Although I think the above is a steaming pile of horseshit (to be clear Derek, I'm referring to the alleged "offence", NOT your version of events) Private Clegg pulled the trigger. Mrs T did not pull any triggers.

Ok, the decision to attack etc might ultimately have rested with her (again, horseshit as she would have acted under the guidance of military commanders) but she didn't fire.

For an accurate comparison using your example above, Private Clegg's commander should have been prosecuted or the officer who fired upon General Belgrano.

You have to keep it consistent Derek. In the above, you have compared sheeps and goats, not sheeps and sheeps.
 

derek kelly

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Although I think the above is a steaming pile of horseshit (to be clear Derek, I'm referring to the alleged "offence", NOT your version of events) Private Clegg pulled the trigger. Mrs T did not pull any triggers.

Ok, the decision to attack etc might ultimately have rested with her (again, horseshit as she would have acted under the guidance of military commanders) but she didn't fire.

For an accurate comparison using your example above, Private Clegg's commander should have been prosecuted or the officer who fired upon General Belgrano.

You have to keep it consistent Derek. In the above, you have compared sheeps and goats, not sheeps and sheeps.

Whilst I understand where you are coming from let me put it another way, if a Police Officer shoots someone in the back then it is deemed that the shooting is unlawful as the person was not facing the Officer so posed no danger.

Thatcher gave the order to sink the Belgrano whilst it was not in the imposed exclusion zone & was sailing away.
Unlawful killing she should have faced a trial & let twelve people decide her guilt/innocence.
 

Codbasher

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Who gives a flying fuck about all this, the bitch is dead, go celebrate in your own way @tu*@tu*@tu*
 

derek kelly

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Michael Palin: Ahh.. Very passable, this, very passable.

Graham Chapman: Nothing like a good glass of Chateau de Chassilier wine, ay Gessiah?

Terry Gilliam: You're right there Obediah.

Eric Idle: Who'd a thought thirty years ago we'd all be sittin' here drinking Chateau de Chassilier wine?

MP: Aye. In them days, we'd a' been glad to have the price of a cup o' tea.

GC: A cup ' COLD tea.

EI: Without milk or sugar.

TG: OR tea!

MP: In a filthy, cracked cup.

EI: We never used to have a cup. We used to have to drink out of a rolled up newspaper.

GC: The best WE could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth.

TG: But you know, we were happy in those days, though we were poor.

MP: Aye. BECAUSE we were poor. My old Dad used to say to me, "Money doesn't buy you happiness."

EI: 'E was right. I was happier then and I had NOTHIN'. We used to live in this tiiiny old house, with greaaaaat big holes in the roof.

GC: House? You were lucky to have a HOUSE! We used to live in one room, all hundred and twenty-six of us, no furniture. Half the floor was missing; we were all huddled together in one corner for fear of FALLING!

TG: You were lucky to have a ROOM! *We* used to have to live in a corridor!

MP: Ohhhh we used to DREAM of livin' in a corridor! Woulda' been a palace to us. We used to live in an old water tank on a rubbish tip. We got woken up every morning by having a load of rotting fish dumped all over us! House!? Hmph.

EI: Well when I say "house" it was only a hole in the ground covered by a piece of tarpolin, but it was a house to US.

GC: We were evicted from *our* hole in the ground; we had to go and live in a lake!

TG: You were lucky to have a LAKE! There were a hundred and sixty of us living in a small shoebox in the middle of the road.

MP: Cardboard box?

TG: Aye.

MP: You were lucky. We lived for three months in a brown paper bag in a septic tank. We used to have to get up at six o'clock in the morning, clean the bag, eat a crust of stale bread, go to work down mill for fourteen hours a day week in-week out. When we got home, out Dad would thrash us to sleep with his belt!

GC: Luxury. We used to have to get out of the lake at three o'clock in the morning, clean the lake, eat a handful of hot gravel, go to work at the mill every day for tuppence a month, come home, and Dad would beat us around the head and neck with a broken bottle, if we were LUCKY!

TG: Well we had it tough. We used to have to get up out of the shoebox at twelve o'clock at night, and LICK the road clean with our tongues. We had half a handful of freezing cold gravel, worked twenty-four hours a day at the mill for fourpence every six years, and when we got home, our Dad would slice us in two with a bread knife.

EI: Right. I had to get up in the morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, (pause for laughter), eat a lump of cold poison, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad would kill us, and dance about on our graves singing "Hallelujah."

MP: But you try and tell the young people today that... and they won't believe ya'.

ALL: Nope, nope..
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
Murder 323 sailors?
You have been overdoing the Evo-Stik.
Their is no murder in war don't ye know! Keep propagandising statistics until you believe it yourself and you are nothing more than a self grandised fool playing footsie with your own ego.:violin:

didnt know we had met?

there is murder in war, POWs were killed, gased, murdered. Polish ghettos was murder.

Have a nice day
 

Pow-Lo

Make civil the mind, make savage the body.
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Whilst I understand where you are coming from let me put it another way, if a Police Officer shoots someone in the back then it is deemed that the shooting is unlawful as the person was not facing the Officer so posed no danger.

Thatcher gave the order to sink the Belgrano whilst it was not in the imposed exclusion zone & was sailing away.
Unlawful killing she should have faced a trial & let twelve people decide her guilt/innocence.

As has already been mentioned (and you of all people should know this Derek!), warships can turn on a sixpence quicker than you could say something that wouldn't take very long at all to say.

Them fuckers invaded the Falklands and got theirs as a result.
 

Rheumatoid

B.I.R.D Intellectual
As has already been mentioned (and you of all people should know this Derek!), warships can turn on a sixpence quicker than you could say something that wouldn't take very long at all to say.

Them fuckers invaded the Falklands and got theirs as a result.

Oh fuck she's finished servicing the Singapore gentry. What gems will she post tonight :D
 

Wolfie

Is a lunp
As has already been mentioned (and you of all people should know this Derek!), warships can turn on a sixpence quicker than you could say something that wouldn't take very long at all to say.

Them fuckers invaded the Falklands and got theirs as a result.

they did as they were told same as all service personnel, those in power give the orders, those in power who give the orders are the murderers.
 
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gary301161

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Sergeant Lee Clegg is a British Army soldier who was convicted of murder for his involvement in the shooting dead of two teenage joyriders in West Belfast, Northern Ireland.

The shooting took place in West Belfast on 30 September 1990. Clegg, then a private originally from Bradford, England, and his fellow soldiers manning the checkpoint on the Upper Glen Road, fired nineteen bullets into a stolen Vauxhall Astra that passed through their checkpoint travelling at high speed. Clegg fired four of the bullets, the last of which killed 18 year old passenger Karen Reilly. The driver, 17 year old Martin Peake, also died at the scene, and the third passenger, Markiewicz Gorman, escaped with minor injuries.

Clegg was sentenced to life imprisonment for murder in 1993, the court having decided that lethal force had been used without a lawful purpose. The fourth bullet was said to have been fired through the back of the car as it was leaving the checkpoint and was therefore no longer a threat to the soldiers.

Maggie was a murderer & should have been tried as such.
Bollocks mate. Hero Clegg should have slotted the surviving minger as well, then been given a hero's homecoming. Those twats in Northern Ireland deserve all they get. We've bent over backwards for the inbred twats and they still don't get it, lets stop wasting money and leave the idiots to it.
 

derek kelly

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Bollocks mate. Hero Clegg should have slotted the surviving minger as well, then been given a hero's homecoming. Those twats in Northern Ireland deserve all they get. We've bent over backwards for the inbred twats and they still don't get it, lets stop wasting money and leave the idiots to it.

Totally agree, I was just pointing out that it's one rule for the lower classes whilst the real people with their fingers on the triggers get off scot free.
 
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gary301161

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Totally agree, I was just pointing out that it's one rule for the lower classes whilst the real people with their fingers on the triggers get off scot free.
Yep, and unfortunately nothing will ever change that. Don't matter who's in charge or what regime, we will always get shafted. It's the way of the world, mate.
 
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