Dick Head on a Bird today M5

[NoBBy]

Saw a right dick head on a red bird going north on the M5 today about where the M42 exit is, would have been about 3 ish. Came past in the outside lane in a Tshirt and no gloves. Just cant understand riders not using gloves or jacket. There is no reason these days with well vented gear available cheaply.


Well hope he's not a member on here. Because someone would have to look after him when he had no hands


what do you lot think.

 

[Jaws]

Said it before and will say it again.. doing something like that is almost 100% def fookin stupid..

But then, we all do stupid things... I know lots of people who smoke.. I know lots who drink.. I know people who jump out of aeroplanes ..

All of which are incredibly dangerous activitys..

So heres the deal.. Pop along to your local airdrome / strip where folk enjoy a spot of skydiving... Go in the bar, and tell all those in there they are fookin stupid no brainers..

No ?? But why ??

You are telling your own brothers and sisters they are dick heads for doing something stupid..

Whilst there is no way I would ever EVER suggest that folk should ride without the proper stuff on, I will stand by their right to do what they like .

And I learnt many years ago that just cos someone does something that I think is daft or I disagree with, that does not make them dickheads, or me clever

Oh and yes, there is a reason for doing it Nobby..
He was doing it cos he wanted to mate.. Something not welcomed by society in the UK nowadays I know, but there ya go mate !

 

[tootyfluti]

Well it wasn`t me or HB!!

 

[Duck n Dive]

The grand plan has already worked......... we've turned into a nation of "Tut, Tutters" The world is no longer at risk from us.....

So, no more rock/mountain climbing, sailing, abseiling, sky diving, horse jumping/riding, exploring jungles/glaciers/deserts, going boldly (or baldly) where no-one has gone before etc.

In other words all the things that led to mankind exploring and discovering.

We have have a right to be stupid and pay the consequences.

And next time I go for a ride if it's as hot as this I'll proly wear jeans. I have some of those clever vented things and I can tell you that yesterday I still ended up with a sweaty arse..........

While it's rant and rave time......... what about the EEC eh........
Yeh well in the UK we get it wrong 'cause we agree the rules and then follow them. Look around and wake up, agree the rules and then do what's in your own best interests then everyone will be happy.
EEC legislation is usually outline (as in common in many EU lands) it's just that the UK takes a 10 page EEC rule and produces a 200 page UK law that crosses every possible T and dots every possible I leaving no room for interpretation or flexibilty.

OH dear............I don't believe it........... I've turned into Victor Meldrew, 'scuse me while I answer the puppy.........

:neenaw:

 

[Speedy]

Wolfie says it best but I can't find the post to quote him.

Something like - My life, my choice.

I'm sure he'll put me right.

 

[R2B2]

Here it is.......

(I thought you were meant to be the speedy one??)

http://www.bikersoracle.com/blackbird/forum/showthread.php?t=19791

 

[Wolfie]

nah rob he means this one

my risk, my life, my choice.


was on this one

http://www.bikersoracle.com/blackbird/forum/showthread.php?t=19483

 

[Rolfy Dave]

Dickhead on a Bird today M5

Fook, that could be absolutely anyone off here.........

Cheers,

Rolfy
:beer:
ps...Not me... Coz I wuz in me truck workin:B

 

[Speedy]

Here it is.......

(I thought you were meant to be the speedy one??)

http://www.bikersoracle.com/blackbird/forum/showthread.php?t=19791

Cheeky git - Blackbirds at 10 paces for that one mate.

LOL

 

[R2B2]

nah rob he means this one

my risk, my life, my choice.


was on this one

http://www.bikersoracle.com/blackbird/forum/showthread.php?t=19483

Aha - I stand corrected....... :bow:

 

[Allan]

If it all goes tits up..

What I say (and who am I to say anything) is that if people chose to do things outside the 'accepted' norm, i.e. ride a motorbike at 100 mph without wearing proper safety clothing, then if they come off and have a serious accident,, they should waver all rights to having skin grafts, special treatment etc, as its their right to what they like, how they like, when they like.:wank:

Its like playing russian roulet, its gonna happen but you dont know when, so why tempt the odds.

When it goes BANG it your own feckin fault and dont look elsewhere for sympathy or help.

Same as driving without a sealt belt on. You know why you are told to do it, you know why you should do it, but do you do it?
If you pass through the screen, its your own fault.

If involved in an accident, it could invalidate your claim against a third party if its proven that wearing your sealt belt could have minimised your injuries. But hey, its your risk, its your choice, its your life. :wank:

Buzz

 

[Samster]

If you ride just once in shorts and a tee-shirt it really puts everything into perspective. Makes you appreciate the power and madness of your bike. Riding in my exceptionally heavy leathers all the time used to make me feel a bit invincible sometimes....... little bimble to the garage in shorts and t-shirt makes you feel very vunerable but is a good sanity check............

 

[Duck n Dive]

if people chose to do things outside the 'accepted' norm......they should waver all rights to having skin grafts, special treatment etc ..............if involved in an accident, it could invalidate your claim against a third party

Buzz, havn't u just made the point....... you regard anyone acting "outside the accepted norm" as somehow being dangerous or foollish. Why is different dangerous? Of course it may be but it doesn't have to be.

What sort of society/evolution do u get if you coerce folks to behave to the "accepted norm". How many past geniuses would never have done great things if they hadn't behaved outside the norm. How many great inventions/explorations wud never happen?

I seem to remember a line from somewhere that went: "but I want to protect you so nothing happens to you" - response "that's just it NOTHING happens".

You'r right about third party or any claim - if u are deemed to have contributed to the level of damage/injury by no taking safety measures any damages may be reduced. Note reduced not removed.

:yo:

 

[gerryc]

Never mind skin grafts and the like at that speed theres not going to be much of you left to graft on to.
The fact are there are plenty enough laws controling our every move in this country without shouting for more and calling someone who decides they don't want to wear safety gear a tosser is out of order.
most cage drivers probably think we are all mad for driving bikes in the first place.
As for waiving their rights to life saving surgery I suppose you think we should waive our rights if we crash while speeding on a bike at all eh.:wank:
After all you'll be breaking existing laws.

 

[Coggy]

Commuted in shoes instead of boots yesterday 'cos I'd left the boots at work by mistake. All that draft round my ankles-felt very odd

%$fan

 

[Wolfie]

But hey, its your risk, its your choice, its your life. :wank:

Yep sure is, is it not therefore mine to do what i want to with???

What I say (and who am I to say anything) is that if people chose to do things outside the 'accepted' norm, i.e. ride a motorbike at 100 mph without wearing proper safety clothing, then if they come off and have a serious accident,, they should waver all rights to having skin grafts, special treatment etc, as its their right to what they like, how they like, when they like.

why???? they pay the taxes same as you do. Prehaps they have private medical????

What I say (and who am I to say anything)

you are a person who has just the same right as anybody else, to express your opinion no matter how daft or abnormal it may be. But you are not god and you, as of all of us, have no right whatsoever to force our opinions/wishes upon others.

as to the :wank: I agree normally once at night and 1 in the morning as well :beer: :beer:

 

[trophychap]

Yes, well, I really adore swimming nekkid as a Jaybird and I defy anyone who has ever done it, to prefer swimming in a swimsuit/trunks/shorts.

But that doesn't mean I do it in circumstances where I shouldn't.

My mother let me go out in the sun frequently with no protection when I was little. I did it myself - and I remember getting burned - when I was a teenager. But I wouldn't allow any child that was with me do it NOW. The circumstances are different - we now know what harm it can cause.

I really don't want to wear all my kit on the bike this weather - so I have a choice, yes.

I either wear the kit, or I don't go out on the bike.

Jenny

 

[R2B2]

.... then if they come off and have a serious accident,, they should waver all rights to having skin grafts, special treatment etc, as its their right to what they like, how they like, when they like.:wank:

Statements like that express your views on the matter, and that's fair enough, you have every right to.........

.......BUT, there is a bigger picture.

If that person happened to be a relative, or the son of a close friend, even your own son (hypothetical - don't know if you have a son etc), would your view remain the same?? Would you be that person telling your nephews mother that no way should he/she be allowed to recieve a skin graft etc, because it's his own fault and he deserves it....??

Would you stand by your principles if it was someone close to you and not a faceless person in a newspaper report from up country.. :dunno:

 

[Allan]

why???? they pay the taxes same as you do. Prehaps they have private medical????

Why?,. okay, if they have private medical schemes then all well and good. But if not why should they burden the NHS with additional problems because they have chosen to risk themselves when measures were there to protect them.

The same as smokers, why the hell should they be allowed lung cancer treatment when they choose to smoke - they know the risk, its their choice, but dont expect to be treated when they are dying from it. They should waiver all rights by default when they buy coffin nails.

Thank fook the Governemt have at last woken yo to the idea that smoking in ALL public places should be banned.

Smokers have the choice to smoke, they can go outside for a coffin nail, I dont have the choice to take my meal outside with my family and friends and eat it there & why should we?. I dont want to have my clothes, food, hair (what little I have) smelling of smoke. Never mind breathing in that shite.

Buzz - ex smoker - so I know what I'm talking about for a change.

 

[Bubba]

I have said the same thing on here a few times about people not wearing the proper equipment while riding but it is your choice. I will ride with combats, trainer boots but with me jacket, gloves and lid, quite regularly nowadays and I have realised that I am being somewhat hyprocritical. I did ride me dads bike in jeans, teeshirt, trainers, no gloves, lid and I did feel somewhat "Naked" but as the samster has said, its puts it all into perspective. I wear my leathers through choice, nothing else. I am aware of what COULD happen to me IF I had an off and that does make the riding a little tamer, brain processes a little more rational, while in me leathers all that goes outta the window!

Even the modern vented stuff is still too damned hot in these conditions but hey, its our choice. I'll be damned before I start telling anyone in here what they should and shouldnt wear. Might get into a fight!


BTW, I said "the proper equipment" please define? As I understand it, proper equipment is what is required by law. So thats a lid with a clear or tinted but only to 15% gradient visor?