I've got the number of a brakes expert so I will ask some questions and also see if he has some ideas for different suppliers. I know PFC Organics were bloody good when I tested them but I think they were quite aggressive on disks. If my man Gary has any useful info I'll try to get some sets to test and let you all know.
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erm, nope, checked the whole thread again and nobody said that...:dunno:
Wolfie
Is a lunp
Wolfie
Is a lunp
but coupled to the fact that ebc hh are shit in the wet, the jump is decreased a bit. And forward planning will not stop the twats from pulling out on you.
yep - I thought it was obvious I was paraphrasing with just a tad of poetic licence 
The point I was making (at least trying to) is reading the road and planning doesn't in any way mean that brakes that have delayed operation in the wet are then acceptable...at least not to me.
In those situations where you had to quickly "ease and squeeze", an extra wheel revolution whilst the EBC's dry the surface can make all the difference.
If people are happy with them then fair enough but many others have found the same issue in the wet.
Each to their own of course
The point I was making (at least trying to) is reading the road and planning doesn't in any way mean that brakes that have delayed operation in the wet are then acceptable...at least not to me.
In those situations where you had to quickly "ease and squeeze", an extra wheel revolution whilst the EBC's dry the surface can make all the difference.
If people are happy with them then fair enough but many others have found the same issue in the wet.
Each to their own of course
I will stand corrected (shortly no doubt) but any brake pads will take longer to get up to operating temperature in the wet? Brakes work better when hot, fact. So in the wet you would expect them to not perform as well wouldn't you? I would, and therefore adjust my stopping distances accordingly. If you brake hard in the wet then the chances are that one day you will have an off when you run out of grip. And yes I know sometimes you have no choice, but you ALWAYS have a choice how fast you go and how close you ride.
and on that note.....
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and on that note.....
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Having established that the after market front and rear pads are the same on a Bird ............ I think the now 'off thread' point is being missed.
If you want a bike with amazing brakes then a Bird is never going to be on the list. Mine is delinked in such a way that all pistons are used at the front with braided lines and they are ............................ adequate.
Much as I hate to say it, the brakes on my 02 Fazer 600 were much better than those on the Bird.....but then they were the same as used on the R1. BUT, the Fazer was much easier to lock up than the Bird - never, ever a good thing.
Wavy discs = nice to look at/small penis
EBC HH = work well in wet and dry for me over 150k+ miles but I am a gentleman motorcyclist, comfortably get 10/12k to a set
Cheap pads = utter lunacy, why risk it??
I must have about 10 sets of 'not fully worn out' EBC HH pads in the bike box in the garage that I have always thought 'might get used one day' along with about 10 sets still in the wrapper that will see me through until Bird is sold.
If you want a bike with amazing brakes then a Bird is never going to be on the list. Mine is delinked in such a way that all pistons are used at the front with braided lines and they are ............................ adequate.
Much as I hate to say it, the brakes on my 02 Fazer 600 were much better than those on the Bird.....but then they were the same as used on the R1. BUT, the Fazer was much easier to lock up than the Bird - never, ever a good thing.
Wavy discs = nice to look at/small penis
EBC HH = work well in wet and dry for me over 150k+ miles but I am a gentleman motorcyclist, comfortably get 10/12k to a set
Cheap pads = utter lunacy, why risk it??
I must have about 10 sets of 'not fully worn out' EBC HH pads in the bike box in the garage that I have always thought 'might get used one day' along with about 10 sets still in the wrapper that will see me through until Bird is sold.
silverfox.xx
quocunque jeceris stabit
I can assure you that I ride just as fast in the wet as i do in the dry, never had a brake problem or issue caused by initial brake application. However I also always down shift and use engine braking to assist. 90% of braking is applied with just using the middle finger, this allows the rest of the fingers to maintain grip on the bars and blipping of throttle while down shifting. It's all relative to circumstances as I'll also block shift down if necessary.
I must admit I can't remember the last time I had to emergency stop, rapid decelereration yes, but not emergency.
It may well be that the initial braking is 'weaker' but either Ive mentally adjusted to it or it doesn't happen, either way I ride without it causing me any issues.
I must admit I can't remember the last time I had to emergency stop, rapid decelereration yes, but not emergency.
It may well be that the initial braking is 'weaker' but either Ive mentally adjusted to it or it doesn't happen, either way I ride without it causing me any issues.
As above.
also as above, the gearbox is the best braking on a bike.
Also as above 'even Bikesafe' - in my experience these are well worth it, I have been out with city of London Police four times from a start point at The Warren in Bromley.@tu*@tu*
I use my brakes more than others on this thread just because I commute in and out of London. It's not flowing and visibility is poor compared with out of town y B roads etc. I have parked cars down both sides, suicidal pedestrians, cyclists that just pull out from between vehicles, taxis doing what the feck they like etc etc.
Even at 10mph I've had to avoid the idiots above. An extra wheel revolution in the wet is the difference between stopping safely and not.
Oh and 25k out of my last set of OEMs
Even at 10mph I've had to avoid the idiots above. An extra wheel revolution in the wet is the difference between stopping safely and not.
Oh and 25k out of my last set of OEMs
J
Jayboy
Guest
THIS HAS GONE OFF TOPIC. Never mind how you ride, no brakes, engine braking etc, we can all do what we like on our bikes and journeys.
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I have decided to try some Galfer pads out I won on ebay and thank you to the person who confirmed all 3 sets are the same. ;-0))
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I have decided to try some Galfer pads out I won on ebay and thank you to the person who confirmed all 3 sets are the same. ;-0))
Wolfie
Is a lunp
this is a bird thread in the coffee shop now, there is no topic now.
you want threads to stay on topic ask in the help section, no piss taking in there until question asked, in here anything goes.
Wolfie
Is a lunp
er, how can i put this - TOTAL 100% BOLLOX.
I have a spare Bird gearbox attached to a length of chain that I throw out the back when I need to stop. Works a treat.