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BlackBirdBaz
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....... on tinted / mirrored visors ??
Anyone fill me in please ??
Baz
Anyone fill me in please ??
Baz
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bitontheside
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BlackBirdBaz said:
The law might if they catch you wearing one!
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BlackBirdBaz
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I guess thats the answer then !! LOL
It is not the tint or the mirror effect so much as the amount of light let through..
To simplify the whole thing though:
If the visor does not have a kite mark on then it is illigal ( possibly there is an Eu mark that is equivelent but I do not know .. sorry )
To simplify the whole thing though:
If the visor does not have a kite mark on then it is illigal ( possibly there is an Eu mark that is equivelent but I do not know .. sorry )
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BlackBirdBaz
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Off to have a look at my new ROOF 020 Mirror visor :blush:Jaws said:
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BlackBirdBaz
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Hmmmmmmmm
So much for that plan, even the original that comes fitted doesnt even have a kite mark or EU mark or whatever :bang:
Hee Hee
Baz
So much for that plan, even the original that comes fitted doesnt even have a kite mark or EU mark or whatever :bang:
Hee Hee
Baz
Considering the system 3 BMW helmets that were issued to all police motorcyclists never had a kite mark and were, in effect, illigal in the UK, I would not be too worried !
Mr sensible steps up to the soap box..............
I would suggest that anyone using a tinted or mirrored visor should find somewhere to carry a standard clear one in case it gets dark ( no this is not a piss take ! Anyone getting caught on a summer day in a storm will no how quickly things can change ! )
Mr sensible steps up to the soap box..............
I would suggest that anyone using a tinted or mirrored visor should find somewhere to carry a standard clear one in case it gets dark ( no this is not a piss take ! Anyone getting caught on a summer day in a storm will no how quickly things can change !
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Wolfie
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Jaws said:Considering the system 3 BMW helmets that were issued to all police motorcyclists never had a kite mark and were, in effect, illigal in the UK, I would not be too worried !
Mr sensible steps up to the soap box..............
I would suggest that anyone using a tinted or mirrored visor should find somewhere to carry a standard clear one in case it gets dark ( no this is not a piss take ! Anyone getting caught on a summer day in a storm will no how quickly things can change !
or just buy a lid with a built in sun visor
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THETOMSK
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My lid has a legally tinted visor.It has the kite mark with the british safety code : BS411OZA and marked up as "daytime use only".
I hope this may be of some help.
Tomsk
I hope this may be of some help.
Tomsk
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NoBBy
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The law on visors is so tight it's untrue. Illegal to possess a none approved visor not just ride on the road with one, with a fine of up to ?2000. Rossi and co at the British MotoGP are breaking the law using one on the track.
The law also say primary eye protection not visor. So sun glasses under a visor are OK, lift the visor and they become illegal. So wearing sun glasses with a open face helmet is illegal.
The law also say primary eye protection not visor. So sun glasses under a visor are OK, lift the visor and they become illegal. So wearing sun glasses with a open face helmet is illegal.
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Aidey
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Err, Rossi is not breaking the law because he is riding on the track, which is private property, not a public road.
To be legal in daylight it has to let in 50% of daylight according to some SI definition of daylight, because the amount of daylight obviously varies according to weather, time etc...
Rule of thumb is
light tint OK
dark tint.... dodgy
black...... very dodgy.
Always carry a spare clear visor though and it would be a hard hearted copper that would want to nick you for it.
Though they do exist! :xm
To be legal in daylight it has to let in 50% of daylight according to some SI definition of daylight, because the amount of daylight obviously varies according to weather, time etc...
Rule of thumb is
light tint OK
dark tint.... dodgy
black...... very dodgy.
Always carry a spare clear visor though and it would be a hard hearted copper that would want to nick you for it.
Though they do exist! :xm
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NoBBy
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Aidey said:
Section 18(4) of the 1988 Road Traffic Act doesn't state it's illegal to possess one. However in 2000 trading standards in Leicestershire prosecuted PJ Headcases and Apex Leisure, and they were found guilty of offences of supplying visors that do not conform to British Standard regulations. It was this judgement that changes things. It?s now technically illegal to possess or use a dark visor.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1988/Ukpga_19880052_en_1.htm#tcon
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Aidey
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Thats trading standards prosecuting a retailer, not a policeman prosecuting a rider....two different things.
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NoBBy
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Aidey said:
You would think they are different; however they both use the same legislation. The Trading Standards wanted a ruling that would close loop holes in the Law. They wanted to stop retailers coming up with ideas like, giving away visors with a very expensive can of chain lube or under the auspices of ?for race use? etc. It was this ruling that technically made the mere possession of a non type approved visor illegal. That said it?s not been tested in Court.
Also the Police are very inventive at using Legislation. Think race cans, now are being prosecuted under Anti Social Behaviour. So it might not be too long before they start using this ruling for dark visors.
Sorry I thought it was ?2000 max fine it's only a mere ?1000 for each visor!!!
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Rods
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a chap at my local club has a light tinted visor (legal), and combines it with one of those inserts you can get which tint depending on the sunlight (you can get them from hein gericke). according to the police members of the club this is legal... both items are ok for road use... and there is nothing saying you cannot use them together.man8um
i wear sunglasses:neenaw:
i wear sunglasses:neenaw:
NoBBy said:
What about prescription sunglasses?
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Nosher
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Carry a spare - or just wear good sunglasses!
I have a very dark visor - summer months only thought I am afraid.....
I have a very dark visor - summer months only thought I am afraid.....
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AlexBlack
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dark visors
Just for the record.. I have a black visor on mine.. and the primary purpose is because it looks really cool! (well it does in the photo the nice policeman in a van took of me) And lets be honest, how many of you guys have them for exactly the same reason?????
I honestly find that it doesn't help "that" much with glare and I'm sure some decent sunglasses would be preferable? In fact I sometimes resent wearing it because I hate to miss out seeing the colours and sunshine on the very few days that we actually have some!!
I do carry my clear visor with me though because as Jaws says it's a bastard if you get caught needing a clear visor! Also, the cops around Somerset seem really good with bikers. They do stop them for speeding and dangerous riding but i don't know anyone that has been stopped for a visor/race can/ numberplate..
In fact, I used to go past police cars whilst having all three "ilegal" artifacts and they don't normally look twice! :yo:
Anyway... as you can tell I'm pretty bored right now....
Just for the record.. I have a black visor on mine.. and the primary purpose is because it looks really cool! (well it does in the photo the nice policeman in a van took of me) And lets be honest, how many of you guys have them for exactly the same reason?????
I honestly find that it doesn't help "that" much with glare and I'm sure some decent sunglasses would be preferable? In fact I sometimes resent wearing it because I hate to miss out seeing the colours and sunshine on the very few days that we actually have some!!
I do carry my clear visor with me though because as Jaws says it's a bastard if you get caught needing a clear visor! Also, the cops around Somerset seem really good with bikers. They do stop them for speeding and dangerous riding but i don't know anyone that has been stopped for a visor/race can/ numberplate..
In fact, I used to go past police cars whilst having all three "ilegal" artifacts and they don't normally look twice! :yo:
Anyway... as you can tell I'm pretty bored right now....