Talking of tax.. Value for money ?

[Aidey]

OH, and before the barrage starts, I have nothing against policemen, firemen, teachers being paid out of the public purse!

Well OK, maybe teachers a little bit :}

 

[Dark Angel]

Why am 'I' as a single bloke taxed more than a married man or one who has kids???????????

'Cos yer SINGLE!

Why do i pay more for insurance because i'm not married or have any dependants??????

'Cos yer MALE!

Why as a bloke do i receive less pension than my female colleague when we retire????????? We've worked the same time, payed the same amount yet her pension gives more back AND statistically she's more likely to live longer.

'Cos yer physically bigger and stronger than SHE is!

I'll bet I pay more tax than a majority of folk on this site ? for ? because most of you are married with kids,,,,,,,,,so i'm paying more to be single c7u8

So the answer to the original question is NO!! but i'm unable to personally come up with a solution to this country wide problem so i'll not moan too much about the folk in charge as they are doing a better job than i could.

'Cos yer DAFT...Just like the f'kin' rest of us "blokes"...Don't even get me started on BLACK and WHITE...!!! (SOZ! "Special Brews!")

 

[abbeytec]

Come on roXXo

every Government since the 1st Thatcher administration has tried to cut waste and make savings in the quest for efficiency..

3 words roXXo....


Millennium Fookin Dome


How is that bleedin' white elephant either cutting waste or being efficient???????????????????????????????? :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:


ALL the bastards are in government, either Local or National, are there PURELY for their own bloody benefit.

 

[roXXo]

ALL the bastards are in government, either Local or National, are there PURELY for their own bloody benefit.

I wonder if we have anybody on here involved in local or national government who wishes to counter your point abbeytec?

 

[roXXo]

Put it another way, is the financially unproductive part of the economy becoming too large a burden for the productive bit to support? The answer is not yet, but it's getting perilously close.

Probably closer than we think.
With people living longer and the birth rate declining there will be fewer and fewer producing to support those that don't.

 

[roXXo]

Just for you abbeytec...



Millennium Dome

Lord Luke asked Her Majesty's Government:

• How much lottery money was put into the Millennium Dome project. [HL1671]
  

Lord Davies of Oldham: The Millennium Commission grant to the New Millennium Experience Company for the Millennium Experience at Greenwich stands at ?603 million. It is expected that this will reduce shortly to ?602 million as the company moves towards dissolution. It is also expected that, over time, there will be a return to the Lottery of some ?70 million, which represents a 13 per cent share of the proceeds of the development of the Greenwich peninsula.

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Lord Luke asked Her Majesty's Government:

• How much taxpayers' money has been put into the Millennium Dome project to date; and [HL1672]
  
  How much the Millennium Dome has cost the taxpayer to date since it was closed to the general public. [HL1673]
  

Baroness Andrews: From July 2001, when English Partnerships, the national regeneration agency, took ownership of the Dome, to the end of September 2005, the total cost to English Partnerships of the Dome was ?31.55 million, or ?30.15 million net after deducting income of ?1.4 million from interim events. These totals include ?9.76 million gross, or ?8.36 million net after deduction of income of ?1.4 million from interim events, for management, maintenance and security of the Dome, including English Partnerships' staff costs, and a one-off payment of ?588,000 for insurance. In addition, English Partnerships spent ?6.7 million on decommissioning some of the Dome contents, and ?14.5 million on the sale process from March 1999 to June 2004 when the commercial deal between English Partnerships and Meridian Delta Ltd and Anschutz Entertainment Group went unconditional.

Of the above totals, some ?1 million was incurred on the first sale process up until the Dome closed to the public on 31 December 2000. All other costs have been incurred after closure of the Dome to the public, in preparation for its future use.

The current average monthly cost of the dome to English Partnerships is around ?35,000, which is unlikely to change significantly. As indicated before, English Partnerships will hand over full responsibility for the Dome to Anschutz Entertainment Group in June 2007, when the arena inside the Dome is expected to be completed.

 

[RHINO]

'Cos yer SINGLE!



'Cos yer MALE!



'Cos yer physically bigger and stronger than SHE is!



'Cos yer DAFT...Just like the f'kin' rest of us "blokes"...Don't even get me started on BLACK and WHITE...!!! (SOZ! "Special Brews!")

Nice one DA. 'Special Brew'.......I'm not bitter

 

[abbeytec]

???????????

Just for you abbeytec...



Millennium Dome

Lord Luke asked Her Majesty's Government:

• How much lottery money was put into the Millennium Dome project. [HL1671]

Lord Davies of Oldham: The Millennium Commission grant to the New Millennium Experience Company for the Millennium Experience at Greenwich stands at ?603 million. It is expected that this will reduce shortly to ?602 million as the company moves towards dissolution. It is also expected that, over time, there will be a return to the Lottery of some ?70 million, which represents a 13 per cent share of the proceeds of the development of the Greenwich peninsula.

24 Oct 2005 : Column WA159



Lord Luke asked Her Majesty's Government:

• How much taxpayers' money has been put into the Millennium Dome project to date; and [HL1672]
  
  How much the Millennium Dome has cost the taxpayer to date since it was closed to the general public. [HL1673]

Baroness Andrews: From July 2001, when English Partnerships, the national regeneration agency, took ownership of the Dome, to the end of September 2005, the total cost to English Partnerships of the Dome was ?31.55 million, or ?30.15 million net after deducting income of ?1.4 million from interim events. These totals include ?9.76 million gross, or ?8.36 million net after deduction of income of ?1.4 million from interim events, for management, maintenance and security of the Dome, including English Partnerships' staff costs, and a one-off payment of ?588,000 for insurance. In addition, English Partnerships spent ?6.7 million on decommissioning some of the Dome contents, and ?14.5 million on the sale process from March 1999 to June 2004 when the commercial deal between English Partnerships and Meridian Delta Ltd and Anschutz Entertainment Group went unconditional.

Of the above totals, some ?1 million was incurred on the first sale process up until the Dome closed to the public on 31 December 2000. All other costs have been incurred after closure of the Dome to the public, in preparation for its future use.

The current average monthly cost of the dome to English Partnerships is around ?35,000, which is unlikely to change significantly. As indicated before, English Partnerships will hand over full responsibility for the Dome to Anschutz Entertainment Group in June 2007, when the arena inside the Dome is expected to be completed.

Not really sure quite what all that is telling me roXXo, except it cost a whole boat-load of money, that could have been MUCH better spent elsewhere, (Doctors, Nurses, Police, Teachers, Etc, Etc.) :rant: :rant: :rant: !!!!!

I think that what pisses people off is not that managers exist, but maybe sometimes managers or even whole departments exist for no good reason other than to justify their own existence (and paycheck).

In the company I work for, there are a number of people who (it is widely acknowledged) fall into this very category. g0551p


As I think Ianrobbo said, if many government funded and / or run services were run more like a business, where every penny needed to be earned and properly justified, then they would be a whole lot more efficient :} :}

 

[roXXo]

Don't disagree with abbeytec.

Just posting the costs of the Dome to back up your case.

 

[ianrobbo1]

Don't disagree with abbeytec.

so your actually saying you AGREE with what Abbeytec is saying then??
or am I reading to much into your answer??

 

[roXXo]

so your actually saying you AGREE with what Abbeytec is saying then??
or am I reading to much into your answer??

yep

I don't disagree with everything Ian. :}

But there is always more than one way of looking at things.
Question everything as Socrates said.

 

[Wolfie]

yep

I don't disagree with everything Ian. :}

But there is always more than one way of looking at things.
Question everything as Socrates said.

and believe nobody. Because nobody is always right.

 

[gypsy]

You want to try telling my missus that

 

[Wolfie]

that is your job!!!


PS if i did tell her that would i get taxed on it?????