In the News Stabbed copper

[Cougar377]

I hope he makes a full recovery. Good on him for still managing to Taser the scrote who attacked him.

I don't get why the scumbag is being done for GBH. A machete is quite capable of inflicting fatal injuries with the minimum of hits and if someone starts swinging one at you then they're intent is not to inflict a "flesh wound".

The charge should be attempted murder. Nothing less.

 

[T.C]

In order to be charged with attempted murder, there are various criteria ranging from the extent and severity of the injuries to the mental state of the offender and a number of other tests that have to be satisfied.

The offences against the persons act is wide ranging, and so when charged, the offence will have been decided on the evidence, the circumstances and so on, not just on the waepon that was used or in his possesion.

On top of that, if you charged the more serious offence, the Crown Prosecution Service I guarantee will knock it down to the lesser offence as part of a plea bargain thereby avoiding having to do some proper work for once.

 

[Cougar377]

The law is much like the NHS these days... saving money is far more important than the needs/rights of the victim/patient.

 

[Malone]

He needs a suspended sentence


I’ll provide the rope.

 

[Cougar377]

Isn't it amazing how people can find the time to whip out their phone and film something like this, but despite the fact that a man is fighting for his life, won't do anything to help.

What a fantastic society we live in today.

 

[Pow-Lo]

And the culprit’s name is Muhammed. Hands up who’s surprised. Bastard.

 

[T.C]

I see that he has now indeed been charged with attempted murder, so obviously the test was passed whch is good news.

Now watch the CPS plea bargain and cop a guilty plea to GBH or wounding with intent in order to save themselves doing some real work.

They will no doubt argue that to go to trial for attempted murder is not in the public interest which is the standard excuse when a copper is involved as they consider street cops expendable.

 

[Cougar377]

Some senior copper on the same force has been quoted as saying that it's due to people "having no fear of the police". Nice one, you twat. The anti - police, anti-government Liberal lefties will jump on that with accusations of "police state".

What he should have said was that they have a "lack of respect" for the law and police.

 

[derek kelly]

I remember a Prisoner we had several years ago, his girlfriend had dumped him, he went to her house with a large knife in his work bag, he pleaded with her to talk, she let him in on the proviso he kept his voice down as her parents were asleep upstairs.
When it became evident she wasn’t going to take him back he put his hand over her mouth & nose, when she passed out he got the knife from his bag & cut her clothes off, he then inserted the knife in her vagina & sliced her up to her neck.
The Police later discovered detailed notes of what he had planned.
He was charged with manslaughter.

 

[slim63]

Some senior copper on the same force has been quoted as saying that it's due to people "having no fear of the police". Nice one, you twat. The anti - police, anti-government Liberal lefties will jump on that with accusations of "police state".

What he should have said was that they have a "lack of respect" for the law and police.

I'm not a liberal anti government leftie as you well know but I have little or no respect for the police as if you are in their sights for whatever reason it certainly does seem like we are living in a police state , I sincerely hope you never have to experience what that feels like!

Back to the original post, I don't know the circumstances of this incident & am not overly interested but if the copper was not being part of the cause & only doing his job within the confines of the law I am definitely in the hang the bastard camp

 

[Cougar377]

I'm not a liberal anti government leftie as you well know but I have little or no respect for the police as if you are in their sights for whatever reason it certainly does seem like we are living in a police state , I sincerely hope you never have to experience what that feels like!

Back to the original post, I don't know the circumstances of this incident & am not overly interested but if the copper was not being part of the cause & only doing his job within the confines of the law I am definitely in the hang the bastard camp

I've had my share of unwarranted attention from plod, Slim. I ended up selling a motorbike because it became a bit of a regular target for the local plod patrol cars after I complained about being harrased by one of them. All the same, not all coppers are bad and society would be a far worse place if we were policed as the Yanks are. I don't think the police forces are the problem as such, it's the "divorced from real life" liberal f*ckwits who dictate policy who are mainly to blame. I also think that no copper should be allowed to progress to senior rank until thay have served at least 10 years of public facing police work on the front line.

 

[Malone]

I had a very good mate who, about 17 years ago after a failed marriage, met a lovely separated woman with a young set of twin girls.

They were ideally matched for each other and on occasion we’d get out for a meal, they attended our 25th wedding celebrations, and he and I were strong golf partners.

Her ex husband was a dickhead and she had an order to keep him away from her and the kids, she had pressure sensors in the house along with panic alarm buttons.

My pal was followed home one evening by 2 blokes, he thought they were there to warn him off. So, knowing he was in for a seeing to and turned to take it head on with them. They realised he wasn’t for mucking around with being 6-2 and 18 stone of burly Scotsman and they turned back.

One day, ignoring advice she let him in to see the girls and he cut her to ribbons with a large knife in front of the girls. Mercifully she survived the attack and he got 15 years - as far as I’m aware he did the full term as he made threats from within prison.

My pal and her, the girls and her family were relocated to a place unknown for their own safety (definitely Antipodean) and started an anonymous new life there away from the UK.

Me and my wife both miss them, it’s almost more difficult in a way than if they’d died as we can never see or speak to them again. But it’s definitely rewarding to know they are alive and well and will prosper there.

The most worrying thing is that her job before she got cut up was as a Police Domestic Violence Support officer - and ignored her own advice.

 

[T.C]

I also think that no copper should be allowed to progress to senior rank until thay have served at least 10 years of public facing police work on the front line.

I agree with your sentiments, but now that new coppers will be required to have a degree in Policing, and/or can be accepted straight into CID as a detective (superstar) recruit without serving their time on the streets and senior officers of Superintendent and above can be recruited from business and appointed straight into the rank (a senior command rank at that) without having served one day on the streets,learning the job, things are going to get far worse before they get better.

It worries me big time.......

 

[derek kelly]

I have served 39 years in the Prison service, 36 of these in high security, it makes me laugh that a person in their early twenties can come straight from working at Sainsburys into a Governors position because they have a degree in photography or something & think they know the job better than me.

 

[Cougar377]

I agree with your sentiments, but now that new coppers will be required to have a degree in Policing, and/or can be accepted straight into CID as a detective (superstar) recruit without serving their time on the streets and senior officers of Superintendent and above can be recruited from business and appointed straight into the rank (a senior command rank at that) without having served one day on the streets,learning the job, things are going to get far worse before they get better.

It worries me big time.......

The whole "must have a degree" thing is already proving to be an abject failure in nursing and I'm sure it'll have the same "success" in the police forces. Ever since they did away with proper apprenticeships there has been an unbelievably naive assumption within certain elements of society that experience can be "learned" on the fly (almost Matrix-like) rather than gained from years of on the job experience. The day that mindset reaches the upper echelons of the Armed Forces will be the day that the next Putin or Jinping will come knocking.

 

[Nige F]

Thank god I've retired....

 

[Duck n Dive]

We get senior HR managers in our workplace insisting that as long as you ensure new staff have "competencies" then they can learn any job.

There's no longer any value placed on experience or accumulated knowledge.

The very people responsible for recruiting have no idea what the actual job involves (and no desire to know) and any managers from the area requiring staff have been promoted into the positions because they are from the required mold.

UK companies/organisations these days require administrators, not good old fashioned managers.

It just keeps getting worse as the oiks running things don't actually even realise what they don't know.

Victor Meldrew mode off ......

 

[Squag1]

In education we now have to have lecturers in the tech colleges with master's degrees, INCLUDING tech and trades who really don't have equivalent qualifications. AND maybe PhDs as well.

Now as real tradesmen are retiring we are filling up with people who have never worked - anywhere.

I said this to my physio a few years ago and said this would be bad if it happened in medicine. "it's happening not far from here" was the response.

Explains a lot!!!!

 

[Squag1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

 

[T.C]

Thank god I've retired....

I am with you on that.

Not sure I would have lasted with the way things are now.

The Police service now is certainly very different to the one I joined.

The whole "must have a degree" thing is already proving to be an abject failure in nursing and I'm sure it'll have the same "success" in the police forces.

The Police service have had the graduate entry scheme since forever.

What this means is that a graduate enters the job, does his/her basic training and within 3 years of joining they are a Sgt and go on the accelerated promotion course nd climb the ranks at speed.

These "Educated" people were the worst to work with. Great at the theory, but have no common sense, practical skills and a real lack of ability to talk to people.

I had one of these individuals on attachment once (they still have to do a couple of weeks attachement to various departments) and within a couple of days I was pulling out whatever remaining hair I had. He was as thick as shit and really could not apply himself.

He ended up becoming a Superintendent within about 6 years. Nobody had any respect for him, old sweats like me had to ignore some of hos orders because he thought he was in charge of specialist divisions such as traffic as well as his own sub division, and he showed even less respect to the chaps and chapesses under his command.

Trouble was, this was not a one off, most of the graduate entry bods were cut from the same cloth.

But those who did their time, passed the exams and got promoted on merit (and Lord Peter Imbert who finished as Commisioner of the Met was a prime example) became not only well rounded and respected commanders, they got results.

If I was still serving, I would have opened my mouth far too often which no doubt would have resulted in me being dismissed of that I am sure.