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Bluey
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Centaur said:
d34l,back to red
Bob Pinder
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Have I missed something here, why is your chain so rusty?
Bluey said:
Have I missed something here, why is your chain so rusty?
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karlos2000
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left field ....
..... I dunno how many others share this view, but that Scottoiler product looks like something I would have made at junior school in 1974. I cannot get at all get my head around a product that is in effect an over-engineered answer to such a simple problem. Don't get me wrong, I'm not slapping anyones choices here, so don't get all out of joint if you think you've wasted money, it is after all, your money. But in my view a retro fit device designed to lengthen chain life should perhaps be at least one of the following > simple in design, effective, hassle free and show a quanitfiable benefit. This looks horrid and nasty, seems to cause trouble and relies on a bespoke product to maintain its effectiveness ie: a continued investment in scottoil. My other sub concern is that it looks like it will simply destroy itself at some point, especially if it ran out of oil.
I lube my chain after every ride if I remember or at very least after every fuel fill up, using a quality chain lube. The bike is 12 years old this year, has 23k miles on it, has the original chain and sprockets in good condition and has 1 to 2 notches of adjustment left on it. :dunno: I dunno, but this Scottoiler thing smacks of that famous NASA Space pen issue versus the Russian pencil solution .... hhhmmmmmmm
..... I dunno how many others share this view, but that Scottoiler product looks like something I would have made at junior school in 1974. I cannot get at all get my head around a product that is in effect an over-engineered answer to such a simple problem. Don't get me wrong, I'm not slapping anyones choices here, so don't get all out of joint if you think you've wasted money, it is after all, your money. But in my view a retro fit device designed to lengthen chain life should perhaps be at least one of the following > simple in design, effective, hassle free and show a quanitfiable benefit. This looks horrid and nasty, seems to cause trouble and relies on a bespoke product to maintain its effectiveness ie: a continued investment in scottoil. My other sub concern is that it looks like it will simply destroy itself at some point, especially if it ran out of oil.
I lube my chain after every ride if I remember or at very least after every fuel fill up, using a quality chain lube. The bike is 12 years old this year, has 23k miles on it, has the original chain and sprockets in good condition and has 1 to 2 notches of adjustment left on it. :dunno: I dunno, but this Scottoiler thing smacks of that famous NASA Space pen issue versus the Russian pencil solution .... hhhmmmmmmm
mick the knife
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Scottoilers are purely a labour saving device and many peeps will pay large sums of dough for the convienience.
Has your wife got a washing machine or does she walks to the river with a couple of rocks?
Has your wife got a washing machine or does she walks to the river with a couple of rocks?
Bob Pinder
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mick the knife said:
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karlos2000
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predictably .....
2. Let's be honest, I personally can't see how it saves any time mate; nada, zot, zilch, not one second, it's another gadget. So, it won't take Sherlock Holmes to work out that you've got one then?
1. That's quite funny when you consider my wife, who's just a little old fashioned when it comes to things like washing, as no, we actually employ a cleaner, who does the laundry and ironing too, so we're progressive enough to outsource all of the household labour. I don't mind real work, but washing? hhmmmmm nah.mick the knife said:
2. Let's be honest, I personally can't see how it saves any time mate; nada, zot, zilch, not one second, it's another gadget. So, it won't take Sherlock Holmes to work out that you've got one then?
mick the knife
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Well I've just asked one of the menials where the kitchen is (west wing ) and had a wander down to look and yes we have, at least I think it is.karlos2000 said:So, it won't take Sherlock Holmes to work out that you've got one then?
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karlos2000
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changing the subject very slightly
I don't have wings on this place Mick, this cottage is tiny, we just have some bird who cleans the gaff a bit, and irons, and breaks the odd glass, cup, jug and picture now and then ...... oh, and sometimes brings her kids, who then bugger around with the PVR box which means none of the programmes we set to record actually get recorded, but hey, it beats taking 2 rocks down to the river huh
good lad ........... now then, I am about to use this new Wurth Chain Lube stuff, that got a "Ride Survey Thumbs Up" type award, so far I haven't used it in anger, ie: thus far to just keep it lubed during the winter, but I get the gut feeling that it's not going to be up to the job, it just looks a little dry after application, dunno if anyone else has used it so far? I had a couple of cans of PJ1 which I've now used up, so hhhmmmmm, we'll see ......mick the knife said:
I don't have wings on this place Mick, this cottage is tiny, we just have some bird who cleans the gaff a bit, and irons, and breaks the odd glass, cup, jug and picture now and then ...... oh, and sometimes brings her kids, who then bugger around with the PVR box which means none of the programmes we set to record actually get recorded, but hey, it beats taking 2 rocks down to the river huh
karlos2000 said:2. Let's be honest, I personally can't see how it saves any time mate; nada, zot, zilch, not one second, it's another gadget. So, it won't take Sherlock Holmes to work out that you've got one then?
I think it's like most things on our bikes - it's a personal choice, like race pipes, HID, luggage, etc*. Personally I've had one on my last few bikes and would rather not be without it for sheer ease of use, especially on long tours. Then again, I'm quite lazy! & yes, I've got a Slipperblock in the post, at least I think I have - quite a lot of "interesting" post (as opposed to bills c7u8) has gone missing recently, just to make my life even more fun.
*HID, luggage, standard pipes for me.
mick the knife
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PM Jaws, he knows something about the Wurth chain lub !!!!karlos2000 said:good lad ........... now then, I am about to use this new Wurth Chain Lube stuff, that got a "Ride Survey Thumbs Up" type award, so far I haven't used it in anger, ie: thus far to just keep it lubed during the winter, but I get the gut feeling that it's not going to be up to the job, it just looks a little dry after application, dunno if anyone else has used it so far? I had a couple of cans of PJ1 which I've now used up, so hhhmmmmm, we'll see ......
I don't have wings on this place Mick, this cottage is tiny, we just have some bird who cleans the gaff a bit, and irons, and breaks the odd glass, cup, jug and picture now and then ...... oh, and sometimes brings her kids, who then bugger around with the PVR box which means none of the programmes we set to record actually get recorded, but hey, it beats taking 2 rocks down to the river huh
I've checked again and apparently we have a cottage or two by the meadow.
germanfrank
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mick the knife said:
p0pc0rn41
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karlos2000
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Wurth and the salseman of the year award, not . . .
. Anyway, it's a long story, but the bottom line is that he hadn't worked properly for years and was a bit of a bullshitter to say the least. You know the ones, he did actually once own this pub we all drank in, but split with his wife, so now he doesn't own it, bl4hbl4h . he played golf, but reckoned he was playing off a 3 (this is good I'm told), but when challenged to a round "couldn't make it" bl4hbl4h , anyway, he got a job, and told me it was ?billions basic + ?Trillions commission, and "my own choice of any car", so as anyone does in that position, he got an Astra Diesel Estate; now there's nothing wrong with them, but if someone says "any car", well, you get the idea and you can kinda smell the bullshit now. Anyway, the company? yep, Wurth. He actually spent more time in the pub than on the road as he "had some big rural farming contracts, so the job's a doddle". He always promised me "all the bike products you can get into the back of your car free of charge", which of course he never did, and to top it all, I found out that after I had moved and about 4 months into his employment he had a heart attack due to the stress. Jeezus, stress? I think it was just too much bullshit production ......... you know who you are IAN, and FYI, nobody believed you the day you said that one of your old jobs was "to fly anywhere in the world (1st class naturally) at a moments notice for AMEX to deliver new credit cards to people who had lost theirs......... " what a :tosser:
can't PM as I'm on scuffer setting (non sponsor), but no doubt he'll pick up the reference. When I was temporarily living elsewhere a few years back there was this guy who came into the village pub (as people domick the knife said:
. Anyway, it's a long story, but the bottom line is that he hadn't worked properly for years and was a bit of a bullshitter to say the least. You know the ones, he did actually once own this pub we all drank in, but split with his wife, so now he doesn't own it, bl4hbl4h . he played golf, but reckoned he was playing off a 3 (this is good I'm told), but when challenged to a round "couldn't make it" bl4hbl4h , anyway, he got a job, and told me it was ?billions basic + ?Trillions commission, and "my own choice of any car", so as anyone does in that position, he got an Astra Diesel Estate; now there's nothing wrong with them, but if someone says "any car", well, you get the idea and you can kinda smell the bullshit now. Anyway, the company? yep, Wurth. He actually spent more time in the pub than on the road as he "had some big rural farming contracts, so the job's a doddle". He always promised me "all the bike products you can get into the back of your car free of charge", which of course he never did, and to top it all, I found out that after I had moved and about 4 months into his employment he had a heart attack due to the stress. Jeezus, stress? I think it was just too much bullshit production ......... you know who you are IAN, and FYI, nobody believed you the day you said that one of your old jobs was "to fly anywhere in the world (1st class naturally) at a moments notice for AMEX to deliver new credit cards to people who had lost theirs......... " what a :tosser:
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mick the knife
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One of our gardeners is known for his bulshit, prolly cos he spends all day shuffling it.
If asked his occupation he tells people he's a pilot,,
only cos he piles it here and piles it there and in fact piles a lot
If asked his occupation he tells people he's a pilot,,
only cos he piles it here and piles it there and in fact piles a lot
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karlos2000
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doesn't matter who you are, Pilot related tale for the gardener
seeing as it's still snowing and I watched the F1 at 7am, and finished my little projects ahead of schedule yesterday bl4hbl4h ....... well, there's always somebody around to make you feel inadequate. For me , it's my father in law, who now lives in the states, he's 69 years old, and you would have though now retired, oh no he doesn't want to, but what does he do? he teaches people to fly 747's and 777's, and he used to fly Vulcans, his level of excitement is somewhat above mine, bike or no bike, but I don't rate his gardening skills though to be fair ........
EDIT : I just remembered another Ian tale, one day I was chatting to a group of people and he was at the bar but listening in, I mentioned that I was going home to cook soemthing with a bernaise sauce, so, he comes right over and says, "I can give you a recipe, I'm a fully qualified cordon bleu chef" (exact words), fuck me!. I really got the impression though that everyone genuinely loved and liked him. But I saw one of his big buddy regulars in my local about a year later and he then spent about 30 mins slagging him off & explaining how everybody used to just tolerate his tall tales and how they even cultivated them for their entertainment .......
fucking snow ............
seeing as it's still snowing and I watched the F1 at 7am, and finished my little projects ahead of schedule yesterday bl4hbl4h ....... well, there's always somebody around to make you feel inadequate. For me , it's my father in law, who now lives in the states, he's 69 years old, and you would have though now retired, oh no he doesn't want to, but what does he do? he teaches people to fly 747's and 777's, and he used to fly Vulcans, his level of excitement is somewhat above mine, bike or no bike, but I don't rate his gardening skills though to be fair ........
EDIT : I just remembered another Ian tale, one day I was chatting to a group of people and he was at the bar but listening in, I mentioned that I was going home to cook soemthing with a bernaise sauce, so, he comes right over and says, "I can give you a recipe, I'm a fully qualified cordon bleu chef" (exact words), fuck me!. I really got the impression though that everyone genuinely loved and liked him. But I saw one of his big buddy regulars in my local about a year later and he then spent about 30 mins slagging him off & explaining how everybody used to just tolerate his tall tales and how they even cultivated them for their entertainment .......
fucking snow ............
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Trumpet
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I know ! I know ! I Know! good one. Starting an April the 1st Joke early about a new Scotoiler ! And there's an airlock in the scotoiler feed to the slipperbock in the previous pics ! And I fly as well, is that the connection ?
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Bluey
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Bob Pinder said:
Thats not rust just bloody dirty
Smix
Fcuk Up Fairy
that PJ1 is good stuff - apparently its 'carried' in a solvent, so it goes on nice and easy, and as the solvent evaporates, the chain lube sticks to the chain lots!!!
Of course, that just what the butler told me, and the gardener told the butler, and the garage boy started the rumour after overhearing something the mechanic was saying to the lady wot does!!!!!!!! So could be all Bollox really!!!!!!!
Of course, that just what the butler told me, and the gardener told the butler, and the garage boy started the rumour after overhearing something the mechanic was saying to the lady wot does!!!!!!!! So could be all Bollox really!!!!!!!
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karlos2000
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indeedSmix said:Of course, that just what the butler told me, and the gardener told the butler, and the garage boy started the rumour after overhearing something the mechanic was saying to the lady wot does!!!!!!!! So could be all Bollox really!!!!!!!
x 100000. My mate Matt used to use some big gay pink sparkly stuff on his 748 chain, the name escapes me ........ or was it really called Slippitin? sounds unlikely, but then again ....... ??