Psycho's - Scott oil to front sprocket

[PsychoBikerBen]

This is the way I've managed to feed the chain with lube using a home made bracket to direct the ScottOiler to the front sprocket end of the chain.
No more unsightly pipework hanging off ya swing arm.
I've done this mod' for miself,Samster,Simster and the Colonel & apart from the Colonel (who just had this mod done this weekend)I've had no negative reports & have been running with this mod for more than a while.

First up - I got me some ally and formed this shape for the bracket.
It's spesificly shaped so that part of it fits into a recess in the inside of the frame.
I'm goin' to let the pics do most of the talkin' as once you've seen them,it should be pretty easy for those of you who have an art with a hack saw to make this or something similar.

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

Plate is now curved & one end.

so it fitts round the engine mount.It has also been drilled to allow atatchment with cable ties.

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

Small bracket is now made to hold feeder pipe

& can be adjusted for possition using allen bolt to get oil nozzle in correct place over chain.

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

Final pic of bracket in place

Showing how it locates into frame slot.

If you've got ya cable ties done up nice & tight-the bracket aint going nowhere.

This is a system that I seemed to have got working well-If you undertake it yourself and it all goes tits up-Don't come running to me.
Mi chain is oiling well and that's what counts-It's meant to be practical not a work of art.

 

[Bird Info guy]

2 requests & 1 suggestion

Good instructions Ben. Just a couple of queries first:

What are the dimensions of the bracket plate, or how did you decide on them, especially that angled edge?

Where's the last shot taken from? Is it from above and behind the upper frame rails?

Suggestion:

I'd file the edges of the cable-tie holes and the edge of the bracket around which they run just to reduce the possibility of the metal chaffing the plastic of the ties and causing them to snap eventually.

Nice neat solution mate, and as you say, it keeps all the plumbing outa sight.

 

[columbus]

Has the engine heat caused the cable ties to melt at all?

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

Yo Clive !

The shot was taken above the frame rails lookin' down but 'cause I cropped the image-this isn't too aparent (the tank is off )
I did file the holes as I too have worked out that the ties could get cut(Edges probably look rough but it's brobably dirt round the holes as mi paws weren't clean.(main plate looks clean in final shot as I tidied it up in Photoshop so it's more distinct for viewing.
Dagnabit !!! I knew someone was gunna pick up on the fact that I haven't put down the measurements and a drawing showing a flat version.Oops forgot:dunno:
As long as the feed pipe is angled at the same direction that the chain travels-everything is cool. If the feed pipe faces the oposit way and the chain jumps (If ya chain is slack as a bankock whore) then the feed pipe can get flicked and pushed up too high.

 

[PsychoBikerBen]

Has the engine heat caused the cable ties to melt at all?

No - Cool enough back there on the rear engine mount.

 

[Picquet]

THANKS FOR ABOVE INFO` BEN........

Took my Scottoiler off the VFR when I sold it but have not yet fitted it to the `Bird. Having now seen your details of fitting to front sprocket, I will have a go at doing similar at the week end.

:beer: :beer: :beer:

 

[Grey Wolf]

Dimensions

Any chance of the dimensions of the plate M8, Please


Cheers
:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

 

[ianrobbo1]

BOING,!! for MY benifit, and those that may not know of Bens genius :bow:

 

[Oldbull]

Bultech Oiler

Thanks to Bens great idea about oiling the front end of the chain instead of the rear, Ive been having a little play and took it one stage further ...

First off I decided to try and make a more simple bracket so I got an alloy roof slate/tile clip, the ones you see on the gable end of houses that clip the end two tiles together..
This was ideal cos it is very light alloy, easy to work with and I had one in my shed lol..

Basically I made a 'P' clip out of it, and shaped the overhang to run more or less level with the underside of the lower subframe rail to allow for a neat out of sight run of the tubing..
Bolted it to site and locktight stud to prevent misshaps..
Pics explain things better than I can...

what I did next was to make a manual oiler out of an old bottle and used two thickness's of tube.. the smaller tube is a tight fit inside the larger tube which allowed me to to cut the kinky end bits off two tywraps and push them up the end to make a double drip feed. Then I put about a 4" length at the bottle end which acts as your res.. I mounted the bottle there because there were holes predrilled from when I removed the piece of crap meta alarm..

Pics should be self explanatory but basically what you do is, give the bottle a gentle squeeze and put about an inch of oil into the tube.. gravity takes over then and it gently runs down the tube and drips from the end and onto your chain.

I know its manual but about an inch of oil is good for about 100 mile run and seeing as I lift my seat to swith radio / garmin on etc then it wont be any bother to squeeze a tad of oil while Im at it and the vacume hose can then carry on doing what it was intended to do

From what Ive read about manual oilers you soon learn to gauge how much oil you squeeze in, in relation to how far you are travelling....
downside is if you put too much in it will carry on dripping while your stood but hopefully with a little practice that wont be a problem...
BTW I have a spare bottle as well which I will put under the seat for touring..

Think that just about covers it ...heres the pics

 

[Oldbull]

few more pics

 

[Smix]

Hi Dave

Can you tell me how much bike I need to remove to get to the point of attaching the 'p' clip (think I can get one bent and drilled as per pics with no probs) - is it just hugger side fairing and front sprocket cover, or do I really have to take the undertray of (really hoping you did that just to take the pics!!!!

:k

 

[dufus]

I found an even easy way to lube the chain with no effort


Call jaws and book in for a scottoiler

 

[Smix]

I found an even easy way to lube the chain with no effort


Call jaws and book in for a scottoiler

errrrr - I HAVE a scottoiler - I just want to change where the pipe feeds the chain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! c7u8

duffnut :}:}

 

[dufus]

the front sprocket under the engine side plate cover is a known gunge trap, knowing this I would pressume you have to clean it quite regulary in order to stop a big gumball of old lube and grit etc

Can you tell me if you've had any downsides to the front placement of the lube tube and how long you've been running a lube tube to the front?

Ta Muchly

 

[Wolfie]

has anybody combined oldbulls homemade dual fed system( two cable ties ) with bens front feed bracket??

just done a quick test and the cable ties seem to work with just a clear tube and oil being poured down it, but do the ties straighten out bend in after a while? or even fall out??

where the fed is out i can see if the thing it working or not and if the fed is still there, but at the front end i aint sure you will be able to check on it without removing seat tank etc or am i wrong ??

 

[Oldbull]

Never had a problem with the ty wrap ends comming out Wolfie, I dipped the tube in boiling water before I pushed them in, tightens them up when it cools down..

If you look along the chain from the rear you can see the end feed easy enough to check if its working..
With the manual squeeze method it is hard to gauge how much oil is going on untill you get used to it.. but the double tywrap method defo works well.
It is a little more messy oiling at the front tho mate as you are oiling the top chain. You get a few drops on the floor when your parked as well...

I took mine off when they bought the slipper block out with the scottoiler..
slipper block basically didnt work as it went awol rather quickly lol..

Scottoiler sent me a double feed thing after a couple more slipper blocks but I didnt really get on with it so Im now running the original single feed method...

Keep meaning to try my double ty wrap method with the scott oiler as I think it would work really well and there is no need to wrap it round the sprocket... but I still havent got round to it yet mate ..

shout up if I can be of any help pal and dont forget that Ben will be watching your every move so you better make a job of it :bow:

 

[Wolfie]

LOL i fecked his bracket idea right up LOL did a special with some cable ties in the end got in all lined up and fitted, but aint tried it yet.