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Cougar377

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Look, can we get this right. A plane is a woodworking tool. An aircraft flies! Doh. :smash2:
And let's not forget .... there's fixed wing and rotary wing. Prop jobs and blow jobs. eh..... best not dwell on the last one.
 

Duck n Dive

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And let's not forget .... there's fixed wing and rotary wing. Prop jobs and blow jobs. eh..... best not dwell on the last one.

There's also prop pushers.

Never flown in a piaggio yet but I'm told it's very quite in the cabin.
 

Artemis

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Living in mid-Wales we get to see lots of military jets as this is one of their playgrounds, and in one house we lived one they used to fly below us!

Mind you, working at Kemble (now Cotswold Airport) we got to see loads of them, up close and personal.
 

Duck n Dive

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Many years ago I used the Heathrow/Gatwick helicopter shuttle service.

Operated as a joint venture between BA and British Caledonian.

BA pilots and BCal cabin crew.

I could actually see loose rivets shaking on the strut between the main helicopter body and the wheel bay. :)
 

Squag1

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Many years ago I used the Heathrow/Gatwick helicopter shuttle service.

Operated as a joint venture between BA and British Caledonian.

BA pilots and BCal cabin crew.

I could actually see loose rivets shaking on the strut between the main helicopter body and the wheel bay. :)
Where was your hammer???
 

Pow-Lo

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When I lived in Lincoln as a kid.
Vulcans used to fly over every week.
Terrified the feck out of me with the noise
and very low altitude.
Lancaster flew over once and I remember
the pilot waving back at me.
He was pointing and pissing himself laughing, screaming “would yer look at that fuckin’ jacket that poof down there is wearing!”
 

Pow-Lo

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Many years ago I used the Heathrow/Gatwick helicopter shuttle service.

Operated as a joint venture between BA and British Caledonian.

BA pilots and BCal cabin crew.

I could actually see loose rivets shaking on the strut between the main helicopter body and the wheel bay. :)
I spent a few years working offshore in the North Sea and off Namibia. I’m scared of flying anyway but putting on a survival suit and then flying to and from the rigs in helicopters scared the shit out of me.
 

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Slightly off tack.....remember sitting in the front row of a 737 or,similar that was delayed by four hours at Luton on a sweltering hot day. To keep the plane cool the front and rear doors were opened. When it was eventually time to go the front door wouldn’t close properly. An engineer turned up with his toolbox and spent some time in front of us adjusting the door before getting his hammer out and whacking it a few times. A piece of aluminium about a foot long fell off, the engineer spent a few minutes looking at it then put it in his toolbox, did a bit of paperwork and departed after trying the door a few times. I remember hurtling down the runway thinking ‘that's interesting, wonder if you are supposed to see daylight round the door during takeoff?’

Bizarrely I also remember not being alarmed and thinking it would seal itself when the cabin pressurised.

Apparently I was right.
 

Duck n Dive

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On a more topical note involving aircraft

Our present Secretary of State for Transport has a ppl and his own light aircraft.

One might have thought he'd be motivated to sort out some of the idiosyncrasies of the CAA (Campaign Against Aviation) which results in quite a few PPLs deciding to register their aircraft with the FAA and getting an FAA PPL licence - but no, his own aircraft is N (US) registered.
 

Phil manning

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On a more topical note involving aircraft

Our present Secretary of State for Transport has a ppl and his own light aircraft.

One might have thought he'd be motivated to sort out some of the idiosyncrasies of the CAA (Campaign Against Aviation) which results in quite a few PPLs deciding to register their aircraft with the FAA and getting an FAA PPL licence - but no, his own aircraft is N (US) registered.
Hi,
Grant Shaps ,strange name sounds like a 80s porn star ,regardless ,I believe his PPL is a North American one. Please don’t let any Cabinet minister near Aviation issues, recall Boris idea of the Estuary Airport plan FFS!
BTW the loud RyanAir CEO is very quiet lately.....oh why??
 

Duck n Dive

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Yep, he's got an Faa (USA) ppl, you can either do the course there or do a UK ppl first. It's really straightforward then to get an Faa ppl based "piggy-backed" on that.

Main reasons folks do it is that US has a much more reasonable approach to maintenance for light aircraft plus a sensible training/exam approach to the instrument rating.

If the Secretary of state sees the sense in registering his aircraft in the US and having a US ppl you'd think he of all people would be in a position to try and start to address the UK issues.

But apparently not.
 

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Not totalled ‘plane’ related, but War Factories on Yesterday is a really good watch. I am three episodes into a series which looks at manufacturing capability, industrial economics and the arms race before and during WW2. First episode focused on the development of the Luftwaffe.

Basicslly the Nazi regime cocked it up, the Allies stepped up.

Intriguing stuff.
 

Cougar377

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Not totalled ‘plane’ related, but War Factories on Yesterday is a really good watch. I am three episodes into a series which looks at manufacturing capability, industrial economics and the arms race before and during WW2. First episode focused on the development of the Luftwaffe.

Basicslly the Nazi regime cocked it up, the Allies stepped up.

Intriguing stuff.
The biggest cock up for the Luftwaffe at the beginning of the war was not having any strategic bombers. By the time they had the He 177 it was too little, too late.
 

andyBeaker

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The biggest cock up for the Luftwaffe at the beginning of the war was not having any strategic bombers. By the time they had the He 177 it was too little, too late.
The He177 is discussed at length in the programme - interesting why it never really went into production. They also ended hostilities with pretty much the same aircraft that they started with compared to the Allies who introduced new models consistently.
 

Cougar377

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The He177 is discussed at length in the programme - interesting why it never really went into production. They also ended hostilities with pretty much the same aircraft that they started with compared to the Allies who introduced new models consistently.
Large numbers of 4 engined heavies consistently hitting ports, airfields and production centres would've crippled the country if they'd been able to do it at the start of the war.
Luckily the Germans built their airforce up based on experience gained in the Spanish Civil War, on the premise of close air and battlefield support and never progressed much beyond the He 111.
 

slim63

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Not totalled ‘plane’ related, but War Factories on Yesterday is a really good watch. I am three episodes into a series which looks at manufacturing capability, industrial economics and the arms race before and during WW2. First episode focused on the development of the Luftwaffe.

Basicslly the Nazi regime cocked it up, the Allies stepped up.

Intriguing stuff.
I have seen a few episodes of that now, one thing that really surprised me is the amount of armaments we were able to produce in such a short time, other countries with more available workforce and much bigger manufacturing capability produced less for much of the war
What also surprised me is the amount of armaments we were able to export to russia
 
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