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R2B2 said:This IS a hoax of course!
Nitehawk has already told us that everybody has been silenced!!
Deadly Dave said:How 'bouts this Conspiracy theory :
The Government and the intelligence community were so blinded by their associations and dealings with certain Countries and individuals and that compounded by incompetance and proffessional rivalries and non co-operation between certain departments led to all living in denial, they made it easy for the Scumbags to strike.
Guess it don't make as good a story as a Government plot though.
nitehawk said:Sorry Dave but this wouldn't really explain the some of the key elements that suggest there is more to this than a bunch of pissed off Arabs with box cutters.
The interviews with the firemen are definitely not faked and neither is the report from the journalist on the scene.
Kudos to NoBBy for posting this :bow:
Deadly Dave said:'Guess it don't make as good a story as a Government plot though.'
Deadly Dave said:Have you ever asked yourself why it is that most of these websites present their 'theories' to rousing soundracks accompanied by a rapid bombardment of emotionly disturbing images and quotes quite often repeated multitudes of times throughout the the duration of the 'message' ?
LOL! You haven't learned much about me during these threads have you? I've already said I don't do knee jerk opinions, but I guess you speed read over that or simply do not remember.nitehawk said:I pretty much know your opinion R2B2
Oh dear, PRECISELY the opposite actually, lol. I've now watched the video a good few times. Sorry Nitehawk, but it simply doesn't support your theory at all. You have been sucked into this even further because you want to believe in it no matter what you see..... or, more importantly in this case, what you DIDN'T see. It could've been put together by Kermit and Fozzy - you would have believed it! Why? Because you haven't taken the blinkers off yet! What makes me think that? Because you have a selective memory and this video has made a bit of a fool of you. Why? Because you were busy absorbing the narration and you just didn't spot the HUGE visual flaws that are contrary to some of your own explanations in the other thread!nitehawk said:Surely after watching that you can't possibly believe all the official bull...
This video just goes a bit further towards proving it.
I have the same sources as you do, it just that I look at what's available without preconditions, and "see" things you don't want too.nitehawk said:You have your sources
Whoa, hang on a minute!!!! There was a LOT of other Boeing specific debris there. This is clearly shown in the same picture sets that have been used by the propaganda sites. Surely you cannot refuse to acknowledge this any longer.......nitehawk said:The last post you did on the other thread was linking to the site which said that the Pentagon was hit by a Boeing because the landing gear was there to see in the rubble
Most significantly, no mention of it from the eyewitnesses who DID see a Boeing though!. You must must agree, a Global Hawk looks VERY different to a 757? How would you explain all those named eyewitnesses mistaking a small GH for a huge Boeing? Are they all mistaken? :dunno:nitehawk said:No mention the the global hawk
LOL! You see, that is the underlying misconception that you have made about me throughout this debate. I don't need it to be at all, I'm open minded on this. I just look at everything we've seen on all these sites carefully, added in a measure of logic, common sense, and probability and then see what emerges. If you did the same you would see what I see! You DO have an incredibly closed mind and this propaganda/conspiracy site stuff is aimed directly at people like yourself because they know they can reel such folk in. I could post the most outrageous and stretched story in this forum and there will be a percentage of people who could give you a completely different analogy than most of the others. If I was after propagating a particular belief I would, to a greater or lesser degree, achieve it.nitehawk said:All your counter explanations are as flawed as you say the conspiracy theorists data is, it simply holds true in your mind because you need it to.
Yep, and so is the tooth fairy & the easter bunny.Wolfie said:i saw superman flying in a film once so is he real????
Piccie with wrong date.......... that was dumb of them wasn't it... proves they're hiding somehting and just didn't use a camera with the wrong date set..... I know I've done that before.. (the date I meant).frenchuk said:Pentagone, simple: release all the CCTV footage confiscated by the men in black - if you don't release it, you've got something to hide. the only pic released has the wrong date on it, FFS!!!
Twin towers: well nobody addressed my last post re. the protuberance under the fuselage. Oh, and the fact that one of the terrorist's passport was found in the debris. Oh, and the fact that the flying instructions AND the Koran were found inside the car used by the alleged terrorists, although a fundamentalist muslim would never separate himself from his Koran, especially if they were about to 'martyr' himself.
Nah - not a chance Pierre. It's too much like Nitehawks "everyone's been silenced" claim. Not with the general public anyway.... too James Bond'ish, you'd never keep it together.frenchuk said:Witnesses? Believe me Rob, you can find as many witnesses as you want for them to say whatever you want when you have the means to persuade them, so those witnesses count for nothing