Fork oil level, Eureka moment...... ;-)

[greenbriggs9]

So I have done my forks today.
New seals, new stanchions, new oil and Johns spring upgrade ;-)
After stripping them down, cleaning and checking every component for wear then reassembling using the HAYNES manual for the torque settings
It was time to give our John a ring for getting the oil level right.
After our conversation I found myself looking for my aquarium tube and syringe.
I found this method most inconvenient because not only was the tube not very straight, but it also had air bubbles in it and the whole method of checking started to do my head in.
Bloody oil everywhere and a syringe that I felt like throwing at the Cat.
I had to try another method, an easier method.
Then it came to me !
I ran down in to the cellar and grabbed a hack saw blade !
Then I tightened a cable tie around one end of the blade.
I needed this as a reference point.
After purging all the air out of the oil, I let it settle with the stanchions fully down, the springs installed and the forks stood on the floor under their own weight on a level floor.
Then I carefully lowered the hacksaw blade down in to the tube, alongside the spring until the bottom of the cable tie was flush with the top of the spring ;-)
Then I retracted the blade and measured the gap between the top of the oil and the bottom of the cable tie. Eureka lol
I had a dead accurate reading, just by using a hacksaw blade as a dipstick.
I hope this helps anybody in future.
:yo:

 

[AV8TOR]

This has to be one of the most simple tools to make
1, Syringe
2, PVC tubing
3, Copper tube (thin wall from B&Q or model shop)
Now fit PVC tube over the syringe end then insert copper tube in the other end of said PVC tube, now mark from bottom of copper tube required dipstick length, now insert copper tube into fork leg & simply draw off any excess oil with syringe simple.
Hope this helps instead of pissing about with hacksaw blades or other crap dipped into forks.

 

[greenbriggs9]

This has to be one of the most simple tools to make
1, Syringe
2, PVC tubing
3, Copper tube (thin wall from B&Q or model shop)
Now fit PVC tube over the syringe end then insert copper tube in the other end of said PVC tube, now mark from bottom of copper tube required dipstick length, now insert copper tube into fork leg & simply draw off any excess oil with syringe simple.
Hope this helps instead of pissing about with hacksaw blades or other crap dipped into forks.

Did you read what I typed ?
Are you not listening to me ?
Do you think I am docile ?
I am a fully qualified engineer.
Engineers don't create problems, they solve problems.
Now go back and read again before you try and tell me how to do something that is simpler than fecking about with bits of copper and syringes etc.
What is so complicated about what I said ?
I can add oil or withdraw oil as required.
I was using the hacksaw blade as a surefire means of measurement.
I work to microns and not millimeters at work.
I know how to read and measure.
Do it my way, then you will save time, rather than f**king about.
There is no need to be patronising.
You can even use a chopstick.
As I didn't have a chopstick to hand, I found another source of definitive measurement.
My way is more accurate. Trust me.
You mess about with your tubes and copper. I will be riding by then ;-)

 

[Me!]

Did you read what I typed ?
Are you not listening to me ?
NO
Do you think I am docile ?
YES
I am a fully qualified engineer.
SO AM I
Engineers don't create problems, they solve problems.
I CREATE LOTS
Now go back and read again before you try and tell me how to do something that is simpler than fecking about with bits of copper and syringes etc.
OR HACKSAW BLADES
What is so complicated about what I said ?
LOTS AS YOU LIE. DEREK SAID SO
I was using the hacksaw blade as a surefire means of measurement.
NOT BEST PRACTICE EH
I work to microns and not millimeters at work.
ME TOO
I know how to read and measure.
WITH A HACKSAW BLADE

I give mine to my retired neighbour. I don't care what tool he uses he does the fork oils and fits new seals for a tenner a side @tu*

 

[AV8TOR]

Did you read what I typed ?
Are you not listening to me ?
Do you think I am docile ?
I am a fully qualified engineer.
Engineers don't create problems, they solve problems.
Now go back and read again before you try and tell me how to do something that is simpler than fecking about with bits of copper and syringes etc.
What is so complicated about what I said ?
I can add oil or withdraw oil as required.
I was using the hacksaw blade as a surefire means of measurement.
I work to microns and not millimeters at work.
I know how to read and measure.
Do it my way, then you will save time, rather than f**king about.
There is no need to be patronising.
You can even use a chopstick.
As I didn't have a chopstick to hand, I found another source of definitive measurement.
My way is more accurate. Trust me.
You mess about with your tubes and copper. I will be riding by then ;-)

8rfl@8rfl@8rfl@ hang on I've taken a picture as you are to thick to get it

 

[AV8TOR]

8rfl@8rfl@8rfl@ hang on I've taken a picture as you are to thick to get it

Oh Mr I'm An Engineer (problem solver) the copper tube has a tie rap or a bit of heat shrink that can be slid up & down to set the oil level required so can be used on other bikes other than just the Blackbird don't worry I'm gonna make you one for you Christmas as I don't think your really that smart to get your head around this tool.

Why don't you become a sponsor of the BIRD site then you can PM me your home address & I'll send one to you FOC

 

[sr71caspar]

Question for greenbits69-

Why not use a rule for measuring oil level? No feckin about with complicated cable ties.:-0)



P.S. My credentials- C.N.C programmer, setter, operator nearly 25 years manufacturing fastenings and fittings to the aerospace industry, now machining specialist heavy metal alloys to formula 1, aerospace and pharmaceutical industries amongst others.
I too, machine to microns.

 

[greenbriggs9]

Oh Mr I'm An Engineer (problem solver) the copper tube has a tie rap or a bit of heat shrink that can be slid up & down to set the oil level required so can be used on other bikes other than just the Blackbird don't worry I'm gonna make you one for you Christmas as I don't think your really that smart to get your head around this tool.

Why don't you become a sponsor of the BIRD site then you can PM me your home address & I'll send one to you FOC

Thank you for your offer, that is most kind.
However I would prefer a simple explanation as to why my way isn't sufficient.
I don't need your revolutionary tool as I have now done the job to a very high standard.
Should I have to go through the mundane process of doing the forks on another Motorcycle,
I can always invest in some chopsticks as oppose to a hacksaw blade.
Thank you though, you are a very nice and thoughtful person x

 

[ScottyUK]

Which displaces most fluid : A chopstick or a hacksaw blade ?

 

[Boggymarsh]

Did you read what I typed ?
Are you not listening to me ?
Do you think I am docile ?
I am a fully qualified engineer.
Engineers don't create problems, they solve problems.
Now go back and read again before you try and tell me how to do something that is simpler than fecking about with bits of copper and syringes etc.
What is so complicated about what I said ?
I can add oil or withdraw oil as required.
I was using the hacksaw blade as a surefire means of measurement.
I work to microns and not millimeters at work.
I know how to read and measure.
Do it my way, then you will save time, rather than f**king about.
There is no need to be patronising.
You can even use a chopstick.
As I didn't have a chopstick to hand, I found another source of definitive measurement.
My way is more accurate. Trust me.
You mess about with your tubes and copper. I will be riding by then ;-)

Jeez, take a breath, have a sit down and chill dude! :k

 

[greenbriggs9]

My address is 5 west avenue. Bradford. Bd15 9ae. Send me this tool.
Then I can analyse it. Send it to Mr hadrian Briggs.

 

[greenbriggs9]

Which displaces most fluid : A chopstick or a hacksaw blade ?

Defo a chopstick as it covers a larger area.

 

[sr71caspar]

Defo a chopstick as it covers a larger area.

But if either calibrated measuring implement is not submersed in oil then they both displace the same amount (i.e. nothing (for those whom are pig's-ears rather than engineers))

 

[AV8TOR]

Thank you for your offer, that is most kind.
However I would prefer a simple explanation as to why my way isn't sufficient.
I don't need your revolutionary tool as I have now done the job to a very high standard.
Should I have to go through the mundane process of doing the forks on another Motorcycle,
I can always invest in some chopsticks as oppose to a hacksaw blade.
Thank you though, you are a very nice and thoughtful person x

Right this is for any (you) thick people.

Fill fork right to the top if you so feel or just a tad more than stated for the bike in question, now simply measure from the bottom of the solid tube the distance stated from top of fork 142mm on my bike for the amount of oil to be drawn off, move your marker (tie rap/bit of heat shrink) this is now your ruler now SIMPLY insert solid tube with your marker held in line with the top of the fork, NOW SIMPLY DRAW OFF EXCESS OIL UNTILL YOU GET NOTHING BUT AIR ---OIL LEVEL IS NOW 100% CORRECT & JOB DONE.
You are welcome & can pass this off as your own idea now & claim another problem solved.
PM me your address & I will make & send you one + a video with talkie talking on it so you don't get lost with how SIMPLY THIS NONE JOB REALLY IS.

 

[greenbriggs9]

But if either calibrated measuring implement is not submersed in oil then they both displace the same amount (i.e. nothing (for those whom are pig's-ears rather than engineers))

Now let's not start clouding the issue with logic ;-)

 

[greenbriggs9]

Right this is for any (you) thick people.

Fill fork right to the top if you so feel or just a tad more than stated for the bike in question, now simply measure from the bottom of the solid tube the distance stated from top of fork 142mm on my bike for the amount of oil to be drawn off, move your marker (tie rap/bit of heat shrink) this is now your ruler now SIMPLY insert solid tube with your marker held in line with the top of the fork, NOW SIMPLY DRAW OFF EXCESS OIL UNTILL YOU GET NOTHING BUT AIR ---OIL LEVEL IS NOW 100% CORRECT & JOB DONE.
You are welcome & can pass this off as your own idea now & claim another problem solved.
PM me your address & I will make & send you one + a video with talkie talking on it so you don't get lost with how SIMPLY THIS NONE JOB REALLY IS.

I'm sorry lad. didn't mean to upset you.
I just found a quicker and simpler method.
That is all ;-))

 

[AV8TOR]

Tune in next week to find out how to remove valve caps & pump up you tyres.
In another problem fixed series that I feel we might be seeing !

 

[sr71caspar]

Now let's not start clouding the issue with logic ;-)

Is that the same as 'not trying to confuse you with the facts'?:-0)

 

[Me!]

Is that the same as 'not trying to confuse you with the facts'?:-0)

Don't start factoring in logic.

 

[AV8TOR]

I'm sorry lad. didn't mean to upset you.
I just found a quicker and simpler method.
That is all ;-))

You really that thick m8 ?
What the fuck do you not get that your system is shit & Arrrrrr
Your right Lumpy about the popularity of biking killing......