Interesting DVLA

[ogr1]

Driving License renewal: Online £14.00 = Valid passport license required...Which i ain't got.
At the Post office: £21.50 Includes £7.50 to have a postage size photograph, cheeky bastids.

You must get a new licence if:

• you change your address. (Nope)
• your licence has been defaced, lost, stolen or destroyed (Nope)
• you change your name - you must apply by post using paper form D1 or D2, you can get them from most Post Offices (Nope)
• you’re getting a Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) driver qualification card (DQC) (Nope)

If none of these apply (Which it doesn't) and your paper licence is still valid, you do not need to exchange it for a photocard version.

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[Malone]

Just renewed the RFL for the MH online - only £165pa. no photo required.

 

[ogr1]

I will sleep better tonight...Thanks.

 

[andyBeaker]

Driving License renewal: Online £14.00 = Valid passport license required...Which i ain't got.
At the Post office: £21.50 Includes £7.50 to have a postage size photograph, cheeky bastids.

You must get a new licence if:

• you change your address. (Nope)
• your licence has been defaced, lost, stolen or destroyed (Nope)
• you change your name - you must apply by post using paper form D1 or D2, you can get them from most Post Offices (Nope)
• you’re getting a Driver Certificate of Professional Competence (CPC) driver qualification card (DQC) (Nope)

If none of these apply (Which it doesn't) and your paper licence is still valid, you do not need to exchange it for a photocard version.

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I thought driving licences had an expiry date at which time they must be renewed?

 

[sr71caspar]

I thought driving licences had an expiry date at which time they must be renewed?

Only photocard licences, not paper ones.

 

[Jaws]

Only photocard licences, not paper ones.

Paper ones do as well.. It is the date of your 70th birthday

 

[jerryt]

Recently got a reminder to renew my HGV Tacho card that I can't drive without! Sent the £19.00 and received the card in two days! When I checked the date my old one expires I found it still has 3 months left to run!

 

[sr71caspar]

Paper one do as well.. It is the date of your 70th birthday

Yes, true. I presumed Beaker meant the 10 year expiry of the photocard.

Plus I'm that far off 70 that it didn't cross my mind.

 

[Jaws]

Plus I'm that far off 70 that it didn't cross my mind.

So am I... but the wrong side of it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[T.C]

Yes, true. I presumed Beaker meant the 10 year expiry of the photocard.

Plus I'm that far off 70 that it didn't cross my mind.

Your photo licence is still valid until aged 70, but it is a requirement to update your photo on the licence which is why there is a 10 year expiry date. It is not your licence that expires but your photo.

The offence is failing to renew the photo which carries up to a £1,000 fine but there are no points on the licence.

Some experts will say that you are not covered by insurance either, however this is down to the individual insurance companies as they make it clear that the policy holder must hold or have held an appropriate driving licence and not be disqualified from driving.

A photo is only required to update the digital records and to help avoid fraudulent licence applications and disqualified drivers staying on the road, but the licence still remains in place, slo I think the insurers would have difficulty in using the expired excuse as an argument not to honour an insurance claim.

 

[ogr1]

So I don't need to renew the photo card?
Still have a pristine paper license.
It was not (if I remember?) obligatory to
have the card when they first appeared.
Everyone at the time thought it was another Brussels money making directive.
Which it was.

 

[Duck n Dive]

On the insurance angle.

I would say you are insured.

You don't actually have to hold a driving licence to take out insurance, you can lie!!

It's up to the insurance companies and I'm not aware if any that insist you prove that you hold a licence.

Every motor insurance certificate issued in the UK carries the words to the effect that no actions by the insured can prevent a third party claim.
It's a requirement of being an issuer of motor insurance.

The legal minimum insurance required to drive on the road is third party, so even if you take out fully comp. but through your actions negate the fully comp bit (drunk/drugs/no MOT/any other reason) the insurance company must still accept third party claims.

If you think about it, it does make sense. Technically being drunk invalidates "your" insurance - but anyone hit by a drunk insured driver can claim against the insurance.

The folks that drew up the laws that first brought in compulsory vehicle insurance were smart enough to realise that it would be worthless if the insurers could avoid liability by claiming the insured had done something to break the contract.

 

[Jaws]

You don't actually have to hold a driving licence to take out insurance, you can lie!!

Sorry mate.. In the T's & C's of every policy I have it says I am insured 'providing I hold a current valid licence to drive the vehicle'
You might possibly be covered for the legal minimum ( basic third party ) but def nothing further

 

[Martin L Batley]

So I don't need to renew the photo card?
Still have a pristine paper license.
It was not (if I remember?) obligatory to
have the card when they first appeared.
Everyone at the time thought it was another Brussels money making directive.
Which it was.

When they first introduced the photo card they'd been trying, and failed, to introduce I.D. cards. I've always thought of the photo driving licence as introducing ID cards through the back door.

 

[ogr1]

When they first introduced the photo card they'd been trying, and failed, to introduce I.D. cards. I've always thought of the photo driving licence as introducing ID cards through the back door.

According to DVLA there are over 2 million cards that need renewing.

 

[Duck n Dive]

Sorry mate.. In the T's & C's of every policy I have it says I am insured 'providing I hold a current valid licence to drive the vehicle'
You might possibly be covered for the legal minimum ( basic third party ) but def nothing further

It says it, but you don't prove it.

You break the terms & conditions they still have to compensate a third party.

Then they'll try and recover what they've had to pay out from you.

But...... you've still been insured and they are still liable to any third party. That would include passengers are they would be third party claimants.

That's what I was saying - once they issue a certificate they are liable to third party claims

 

[derek kelly]

Many insurance companies ask for your driving license number even though you are not legally obliged to give it to them

 

[slim63]

When they first introduced the photo card they'd been trying, and failed, to introduce I.D. cards. I've always thought of the photo driving licence as introducing ID cards through the back door.

Exactly why I refused to have a photo licence until I had no choice in the matter

 

[Pow-Lo]

Exactly why I refused to have a photo licence until I had no choice in the matter

What’s the problem with ID cards? I had to carry mine at all times when I lived in Singapore, which was never a problem as I never went anywhere without my wallet. They’d certainly weed out illegal immigrants.

 

[derek kelly]

What’s the problem with ID cards? I had to carry mine at all times when I lived in Singapore, which was never a problem as I never went anywhere without my wallet. They’d certainly weed out illegal immigrants.

Did you live in Singapore? You’ve never mentioned it.