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andyBeaker

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Who said it was dead.

mother in laws new front door....AA3BB4B1-B3DA-43E3-B99C-6F6BAC977E9C.jpeg

lord knows why the photo has flipped 90 degrees
 

Squag1

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Why is it upside down??
Must be expecting a lot of letters.
 

johnboy

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Does she still have a second delivery in her area?
 

Cougar377

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TWO letterboxes...? Now that IS posh. His and Hers...?
 

slim63

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Standard stuff that I bet she paid an arm & a leg for ? & yes i do know how much a door like that costs & how long it takes to fit

Weather strip isn't central which would hack me off no end but having said that its better than mine which I broke in half a couple of weeks ago, thanks for the reminder to get that sorted
 

ogr1

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Hope they're gonna clean up the expanding foam or at least cover it up.
Craftmanship? They throw em up. Will look nice when it's finished.
 

derek kelly

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Doors are so easy to fit nowadays, bung em in the hole & fill gaps with expanding foam then trim off & cover with plastic strips.
 

slim63

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Doors are so easy to fit nowadays, bung em in the hole & fill gaps with expanding foam then trim off & cover with plastic strips.

If you want them fitted properly that is exactly what you don't do :(
 

andyBeaker

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TWO letterboxes...? Now that IS posh. His and Hers...?
Amusingly had the ‘we’re just checking you are happy with the job can you make payment now' call last night.

That didn't go well from their perspective.

They called back and said it was a six week lead in to have the side panel remade. I suggested it was a no week lead in if it went to the top of the queue rather than the bottom.

Waiting for another call back.....
 

andyBeaker

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True, but then there are "professionals" & real professionals who know how to do the job properly rather than bang them in & run with the cash
Genuine question - what's the 'right' way of fitting them?
 

slim63

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Genuine question - what's the 'right' way of fitting them?

No easy answer to that one mate as a lot depends on who measures them up EG if they are measured up wrong & the gaps are too big then you end up with plastic trim around the edges & that to me is wrong, a 3 to 5mm bead of frame sealant is all that should be needed no more than that, expanding foam is not needed if its done right. measuring under to make fitting easier & quicker is common practice hence all the crap trim you find on 99% of houses, doing it right leaves a much better finish but takes more time

Sills should have a bead of silicone before being screwed to the bottom of the frame but rarely are (note that is similar but not the same as frame sealant)

A minimum of 3 frame fixings a side are needed for a door & one with a window on the side will usually need one or more through the head as well, proper plastic wedges should be used rather than bits of wood or other crap & the fixings should be tightened to them to insure the unit stays square, just hammering in a frame fixing isnt good enough. Getting the frame square is the hardest part of the whole job, particularly with doors

Inside reveals should be plastered to take up any gaps, bits of plastic trim are not acceptable in my world, I have spent hours removing them from my previous houses & doing the job properly, plastic window boards are ok if fitted correctly, plastered in & sealed to prevent any drafts from the cavity (if there is one)

Finally glazing units should be fitted on spacers to allow for expansion & contraction, too may times I have seen a double glazed unit sitting way down in a frame or over to one side because someone couldn't be arsed to space it properly (if at all) these are usually the units that have the seal broken & end up with condensation between the panes
 

andyBeaker

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No easy answer to that one mate as a lot depends on who measures them up EG if they are measured up wrong & the gaps are too big then you end up with plastic trim around the edges & that to me is wrong, a 3 to 5mm bead of frame sealant is all that should be needed no more than that, expanding foam is not needed if its done right. measuring under to make fitting easier & quicker is common practice hence all the crap trim you find on 99% of houses, doing it right leaves a much better finish but takes more time

Sills should have a bead of silicone before being screwed to the bottom of the frame but rarely are (note that is similar but not the same as frame sealant)

A minimum of 3 frame fixings a side are needed for a door & one with a window on the side will usually need one or more through the head as well, proper plastic wedges should be used rather than bits of wood or other crap & the fixings should be tightened to them to insure the unit stays square, just hammering in a frame fixing isnt good enough. Getting the frame square is the hardest part of the whole job, particularly with doors

Inside reveals should be plastered to take up any gaps, bits of plastic trim are not acceptable in my world, I have spent hours removing them from my previous houses & doing the job properly, plastic window boards are ok if fitted correctly, plastered in & sealed to prevent any drafts from the cavity (if there is one)

Finally glazing units should be fitted on spacers to allow for expansion & contraction, too may times I have seen a double glazed unit sitting way down in a frame or over to one side because someone couldn't be arsed to space it properly (if at all) these are usually the units that have the seal broken & end up with condensation between the panes
It must be difficult to get a neat bead of silicone when meeting brickwork - not one I think I would try personally, sure I would make a mess of it.
 

slim63

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It must be difficult to get a neat bead of silicone when meeting brickwork - not one I think I would try personally, sure I would make a mess of it.

Not silicone Andy frame sealant, good stuff is twice the price of normal silicone & although they are similar they are actually quite different to use, frame sealant is a lot stiffer & harder work to pump out of the gun but comes out slowly so its actually easier to make a neat job once you get the hang of it & frame sealant wont attract mold like some cheap silicone does

I once contracted out to a draughtproofing company & part of that job was resealing windows & doors on council properties I was going through 24+ tubes of frame sealant a day most days, often hanging out of tower block windows to do it & if it wasn't good you didn't get paid until you had done it again, I quickly learned to get it right & soon ended up with a right forearm like Popeye & grip like a vice
 

Squag1

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Someone I know was fitting out a house.
The owner measured the bay window.

She ordered the metal curtain rail.
I didn't fit at all.

Owner measured in inches, she thought it was metric. Don't know who paid.......
 

Martin L Batley

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Someone I know was fitting out a house.
The owner measured the bay window.

She ordered the metal curtain rail.
I didn't fit at all.

Owner measured in inches, she thought it was metric. Don't know who paid.......
There's à hotel in Dubai or someplace like that with a huge swimming pool. The architect drawing was in imperial but the pool built in metric dimensions. All's well as ends well though. The owners love the huge pool and it's now a bragging point.
 
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