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Attn Norfuckers - Solar Panels

mick the knife

Registered User
I'll let you know as I've just registered

Estimated system cost ?5,395, so we'll see

2 quotes I already have are ?4,200 and ?4,900 on a 3kwh system
 

Rheumatoid

B.I.R.D Intellectual
just registered too - nothing lost. Looks like the max number of panels in the deal is 9 though unless I was looking at it wrong.
 

americanexpress

Registered User
Beware the terms of the contractors providing the service, I have heard reports of people being unable to sell their houses, because the contacting company have a claim to your roof (or some such stuff).

My main objection to solar panels on the roof is that they look hideous and you have to live to be about 150 to recoup the cost.:dunno:

(or both of those urban myths?)
 

mick the knife

Registered User
Beware the terms of the contractors providing the service, I have heard reports of people being unable to sell their houses, because the contacting company have a claim to your roof (or some such stuff).

My main objection to solar panels on the roof is that they look hideous and you have to live to be about 150 to recoup the cost.:dunno:

(or both of those urban myths?)

There is a deal where a company will fit panels for nowt, you get the free electric generatored but the company gets the feed in tariff, which is by far the better side of the deal. You are then correct, if you come to sell the property the new owner must sign to say they'll take over agreement, if not yer fecked.
Again yer correct, they look horrendous and are a mighty blot on the landscape, a bit like stone cladding in it's day. There is a better option, which is for new build, and that is solar tiles. They look a lot better but the cost for retro fit by far out weighs the savings.
Now the bit where yer wrong, if we work the figures to average and allowing for drop off ( panels are expected to by 30% less efficient in 20 years time) My system will cost ?5k, total free electric and feed in tariff and allowing 20% for bullshit from manurfactures allows me a generated ?490, so roughly speaking thats 11 years to recoup my up front costs. Even when taking in to account interest lost on the ?5k cost it's a good deal.
I use 6666kwh per anum so a dent in that is handy, coupled with unlimited free wood for the woodburner, and the oil boiler consuming only ?132pa, I can run a large six bedroom bungalow for under ?630 pa
 

Stevebrooke

Knee up, wheel down
Club Sponsor
I have some and was lucky enough to get them when the Feed-in Tariff (FIT) was 42p a unit. This means mine will pay for themselves in about 5 years, along with about ?400 p.a saved by using what they generate during the day. Unfortunately the FIT is around 16p a unit now so the income isn't brilliant, but with the savings made by using what's generated during the day I think they're still worth a punt. My figures are for a 16 panel 3KWh system.
 

Rheumatoid

B.I.R.D Intellectual
I have some and was lucky enough to get them when the Feed-in Tariff (FIT) was 42p a unit. This means mine will pay for themselves in about 5 years, along with about ?400 p.a saved by using what they generate during the day. Unfortunately the FIT is around 16p a unit now so the income isn't brilliant, but with the savings made by using what's generated during the day I think they're still worth a punt. My figures are for a 16 panel 3KWh system.

But I expect you paid more for the install and the panels are likely less efficient?
 

bmwdumptruck

Come on you Hatters
Bloody minefield this whole solar thing.

A mate of mine sells them, really rates them, and has shown me his receipts for two summer quarters showing an income of around ?500 from the FiT, and he's not on the highest rate, they've only been up a couple of years.

Whereas my neighbour was sold them on the understanding the FiT would cover the monthly loan cost, but she's having to subsidise that by about half.

And they are the same company!! When my mate saw the job on the system for my neighbour he rang me and tried to get me to do mine at the same time (for a better price, mates rates), but I'm far too nervous of the whole thing to get involved.

I do know that with what he was selling you own the system, therefore when you move they just go with the house, although someone told me the other day that the new homeowner doesn't get the FiT, ever. But I find that hard to believe:dunno:
 

Oldbull

Registered User
Beware the terms of the contractors providing the service, I have heard reports of people being unable to sell their houses, because the contacting company have a claim to your roof (or some such stuff).

My main objection to solar panels on the roof is that they look hideous and you have to live to be about 150 to recoup the cost.:dunno:

(or both of those urban myths?)

Agreed .. I know of two people in our village with leaking roofs ... they just keep emptying the buckets while they keep denying whos fault etc etc..

couple of hundred quid a year if they dont move the goalpost is not worth the risk... what happens if the roof needs repair work etc underneath them ..ie lose a slate or ridge tile etc d34l
 

Pugwash

Registered User
Read Only
I need to move house first. Where is this Norfolk sunshine of which you speak?
 

Stevebrooke

Knee up, wheel down
Club Sponsor
But I expect you paid more for the install and the panels are likely less efficient?

I assume panels have moved on recently, but they are only 3 years old and will be in profit in another 2.

It was about Nov/Dec 2011 the Govt decided to drop the FIT immediately from 42p to 22p a unit, even though there was a consultation going on that would see it reduced anyway in April 2012. I'd been given a quote for my system in October for 13 grand, which was out of my price range. As a result of the Govt action the environmentalists and other interested parties sought a judicial review of the decision and the Govt was forced to continue the consultation. In the ensuing uncertainty I was re-quoted the same system for 8.5K which I took up, paying a sizeable deposit, with the company taking the FIT to pay off the balance. As there is no credit agreement there will be no extra to pay and if I wish to pay the balance off early I can. The last three years have seen earnings of around ?1100 p.a. In a couple of years time this will be going into my bank.

What brought out the cynic in me was the almost instant reduction in the price due to the imminent reduction in the FIT, which confirmed to me that the panels were overpriced and the Solar companies were overcharging and ripping people off.
 

Rheumatoid

B.I.R.D Intellectual
Just had 4kw system fitted on garage for ?4.7k through the solar together scheme. Payback should be around 5.5 years or slightly less as me and the misses are at home most days so can try to use our own leccy most of the time. Approx 23% pa return slightly better than my best 2% Isas!
 

andyBeaker

Moderator
Staff member
Moderator
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Just had 4kw system fitted on garage for ?4.7k through the solar together scheme. Payback should be around 5.5 years or slightly less as me and the misses are at home most days so can try to use our own leccy most of the time. Approx 23% pa return slightly better than my best 2% Isas!

What happens if you sell the house during the contract?
 

ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
Kicking myself, should have done this years ago, or when I got laid off, could do with Yorkshite council starting a scheme like wot the Carrot cruncher s have!! :dunno: most of my electricity is used during the day, keeping Snakes nice and warm!! :-0)
 
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