a riddle for the clever ones

[Amsterdam]

Simple!

Problem is due to lack of grip c7u8

So, there was something on the road like diesel or oil or something else slippery, if not where you binned it then just before.

Or, there's a major problem with the tarmac, this happens, that's why they have those truck's with ton's of test equipment testing road surfaces. I've come across a couple of patches of road that were deadly when wet or damp. The worst one I ever encountered was the M48M roundabout at Chepstow (okay now it's resurfaced) where I used up underpants regularly :}

Amsters

 

[frenchuk]

No induction loop since I crashed about 30 to 40m after the light, no wind, good tyres, actually great tyres since they are Avons (Rhino :neenaw, Zoffo yes it was me, I can't remember what happened just prior so trying to reconstruct, not too serious on me (just shoulder ligaments torn and rasped knee) but the bike's plastics, tank, subframes are well and properly fuked... El Diablo, I already told you, I like your mate gatso's shy but you are a twat of humongous proportions, go fix a farmhouse in Spain or something :f

 

[Zoffo]

If you can't remember imediately before the crash how do you know someone didn't have you off. I was hit on a pushbike as a kid. Remember waking up with my knee bending the wrong way but nothing just before. Police tod me in hospital it had been a hit and run. To this day I can't remeber any of it.

 

[ianrobbo1]

you didnt pass anyone as they were eating a Banana did you??? :dunno:
just a thought like!!!

 

[derek kelly]

Or maybe you were laughing at someone humping coke bottles

 

[frenchuk]

No banana, no cock (sorry Bert), and I know I wasn't hit because there are two witnesses who say the rear end just slid while I was upright without any apparent reason...

 

[studleyroger]

Its the SALT, the road traffic crushers and grinds it, with a mixture of loose grit and water. It then drys to a very fine white powder, that then over a few days acts like a cutting compound on the road suface and infact polishes the surface of the individual stones/grit that make up the surface (thats why the roads look light grey when dry) then this powder acts like a bearing between the tyre and road, I bet the surface is quite warn on this patch of road, and if you look real close at each pebble it will be very smooth.

Thing is you try prove this in court, but this is the truth.

 

[Zoffo]

Its the SALT, the road traffic crushers and grinds it, with a mixture of loose grit and water. It then drys to a very fine white powder, that then over a few days acts like a cutting compound on the road suface and infact polishes the surface of the individual stones/grit that make up the surface (thats why the roads look light grey when dry) then this powder acts like a bearing between the tyre and road, I bet the surface is quite warn on this patch of road, and if you look real close at each pebble it will be very smooth.

Thing is you try prove this in court, but this is the truth.

Sounds like the voice of experience Studders. You've recently had an off haven't you?

 

[studleyroger]

Had a massive off Bike was snapped in two, but not due to Salt, due to blind git hitting stationary me, about 35Mph from behind. Walked away. just!, I AWAYS wear protective clothing with armour:bow: .

 

[frenchuk]

Its the SALT, the road traffic crushers and grinds it, with a mixture of loose grit and water. It then drys to a very fine white powder, that then over a few days acts like a cutting compound on the road suface and infact polishes the surface of the individual stones/grit that make up the surface (thats why the roads look light grey when dry) then this powder acts like a bearing between the tyre and road, I bet the surface is quite warn on this patch of road, and if you look real close at each pebble it will be very smooth.

Thing is you try prove this in court, but this is the truth.

So far that's the winner (roads were salted the day before if I remember well) - that combined with 1200Pete's hypothesis that I passed the light, I had to make a sharp right a bit further so released the throttle, maybe a gear down, didn't blip the engine enough, slight wheel lock, and shite surface as you describe: bob's your uncle, and norman's your paramedic.

 

[Aidey]

Frenchie, you really should move to that place in SW France, soon, for your own sake. You're record on Brit roads has been a disaster, Go while you still can! :f
The salt theory sounds most probable, especially if there is a high moisture content in the air and not enough warmth to evaporate miosture off the road.
Salt slime + moisture + throttle = slippy.

 

[Hornblower]

Pierre what reg is your bike? Mine is a 99 Fi one and I have a problem with my clutch. I believe that Ben and a few others on here have had it too. Sometimes when letting the clutch out with reasonably high revs(normaly from stationary) it makes a sort of vvviit like sound and goes from no drive to full drive instantly. In the dry you take off like a cat with a rocket up its arse. in the wet it can be quite fun (not). It has happened to me a couple of times between 2nd and 3rd but fortunately only in the dry on a good road. If this happened to you on a loose salty road it could be the explaination. Hope you are fit and well soon and you get the bike back on the road soon. :beer:

 

[Bainzer]

Overbanding ????

w;;v FUK, could it have been tar overbanding , the sealing compound they use to seal tar joints in the road ?? maybe if it has a rounded profile it could have made your wheel step out of line 'cos that stuff is as slippery as a slippery thing on slippery pills.


8ree!
Bainzer

 

[Gatso shy]

So far that's the winner (roads were salted the day before if I remember well) - that combined with 1200Pete's hypothesis that I passed the light, I had to make a sharp right a bit further so released the throttle, maybe a gear down, didn't blip the engine enough, slight wheel lock, and shite surface as you describe: bob's your uncle, and norman's your paramedic.

Oi Superfog

That's what I said reply post #13

where's me prize then................? :dunno:

 

[olkno9]

chain

I had a simlar instance on a cbr6 cple of yrs since, came off a roundabout started to accelerate in a straight line when bang, the back end locked up and i was skidding all over. luckily didnt lose it bad , when i got off and looked around the bike their was a piece of rag jammed between the chain and rear sprocket, if something had done the same to you it might have got chucked out after it had caused u to lose it. :dunno:

 

[bitontheside]

He fell over!

My guess is overbanding - the mastic that is poured onto a repair on the road. Was there any signs of recent works? There are standards for the way overbanding can be left i.e. the maximum width.

 

[eyebrows]

overbanding

I have just recieved a settlement (2 years on) from a road contractor who did overbanding wrong, the LAW is very specific: no more than 40mm wide (the bit that took me off was 250mm wide!) no more than 9mm high with a skid resistance of so many somethings (SRV).
All part of the the reparations to openings in the road act. If the overbanding is new and proud it is a killer, (north yorks bike bobby killed 10 years ago when overbanding took him of and slung him under a truck!!).

FUK check for it, there are precedents for prosecution.

Dave

 

[Coggy]

Did you run over a patch of diesel a few hundred yards back,making the tyre slippery but having no effect-because not much traction was required-until you put the power on when you lost grip?

 

[gypsy]

had the bike just had enough of you ?

 

[frenchuk]

gatso what you said included "(...)just as you turned right , this on cold tyres caused a loss of adhesion(...)" when I said I was going straight and had warm tyres so yes, you win a prize, the one for the blind git on the forum.
The bike is a 2000 and I never had any problem with the clutch, no overbanding apparent on the road (swiss cottage one way system coming from Adelaide Road for the Londoners out there), no trace of diesel on the tyre or any mark at all actually, okno that could be possible but I guess the cops on the scene (there were bike cops) would have spotted it... so salted surface is so far the best one. Aidey you're right, I ought to fuk off soon - BTW I'm gonna be on my third S1, any discount for frequent customers participating in extensive product testings w;;v Lumpy, at least I do it in style :f, Gipsy I couldn't blame her sometimes I have enough of myself and throw myself out of me
Thanks a lot for all your guesses that has helped a lot to try and recoonstruct, I am more at peace now :yo: