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derek kelly

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Not what the judge decided, although it would appear he agreed with the ‘dickhead’ bit.. Quite a long story that continued well after she moved on from Wakefield And excelled in her profession.
Judges are often deceived by professionals, she was a horrible woman & a number of decent Officers were dragged through the mud because of her, I will always call it as I see it & she preferred Prisoners to Prison Officers.
 

andyBeaker

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Judges are often deceived by professionals, she was a horrible woman & a number of decent Officers were dragged through the mud because of her, I will always call it as I see it & she preferred Prisoners to Prison Officers.
if you want to read the books to hear the other side I would be happy to forward them to you.
 

derek kelly

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if you want to read the books to hear the other side I would be happy to forward them to you.
I don’t need to read the other (biased) side, I remember the events, one particular event, an Officer spent the night in Police cells & all he did was drive into town to pick his mate up.
 

Jaws

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I wish I had know you were after one....I was given one to heat the workshop.. but I will prob never use it...got a remote control and everything.
Would still be VERY interested in it mate... I am desperate for a second unit for the workshop and yo are not too far for me to come over
 

derek kelly

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Generally I have no time for Psychiatrist, first of all Psychiatry is not an exact Science, it is often an easy degree for Medical student drop outs.
The Psychiatrists working in Prisons see Prisoners for a couple of hours per week & only observe them in a controlled classroom setting & convince themselves that they can cure them, when Prison Officers give their observations based on hours of daily observations the Psychiatrists regard us as talking out of our backsides.
Generally Psychiatrists are arrogant & believe they are better than they are.
When I worked in the control room we had an alarm in the programmes dept (psychiatrist’s domain) my colleague rang the department to tell them to evacuate, the phone call was taken by the head of department “Dr Syriol David” she replied “we can’t evacuate we’re in the middle of important sessions” Pat responded “if you don’t get your arses out now then you’re going to burn” she reported him to the Governor & Pat had to explain to the Governor why he spoke to her so bluntly.
 

andyBeaker

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I'm with Dezza on this one. Anyone can write anything in a book. However, there is little substitute for first hand experience and observing the subject person(s) in situ.
i can see both sides. Personally I would want to read what the lady in question has to say if I was as close to it all as Derek says he was. It may be a load of cods but on the other hand going into print makes the writer and publisher wide open for libel; as such publication of such material would normally be subject to a pre publication legal review.
 

derek kelly

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I am sure she won’t have told any lies but don’t for one second believe that she was all innocent
 

ogr1

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Psychiatric professionals are basically curtain twitchers of the mind.
No amount of reports regarding individual assessment is ever going to work unless
the individual has or is willing to keep an
open mind during they're assessment.
Most don't keep appointments with our internal psychiatrists and they don't have
to attend either....They have no obligation
to commit themselves for fear of self incrimination. Which is ironic as they have
been detained under section 17 of the mental health act. The very act that landed them in hospital in the first place.
A long drawn out battle ensues with the
in house professional bodies.
Another department is Occupational Therapy and I think they are the most inept part of the organisation.
Treating grown up adults like they are in a creche is feckin cringe worthy, makes my piss boil.
 

slim63

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Won and paid for another shotgun stock so bought another vintage style fitting to turn it into another lamp at some point
 

Pow-Lo

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i can see both sides. Personally I would want to read what the lady in question has to say if I was as close to it all as Derek says he was. It may be a load of cods but on the other hand going into print makes the writer and publisher wide open for libel; as such publication of such material would normally be subject to a pre publication legal review.
Fair enough.

Most of my work is writing; I have to write technical reports that must be clearly understandable for non-technical people and they have to stack up in court. A good writer can get away with murder by carefully caveating opinions and choosing their words. Also, it's often more about what's not said than what is. If this burd is a psychiatrist worth her salt, she'll be able to pretty much say what she wants, stating opinion as fact and leaving herself just enough wriggle room to avoid a lawsuit.

It's wrong to judge a book by the cover, I know, but just from looking at her, I wouldn't trust her with a dead match.
 

andyBeaker

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Fair enough.

Most of my work is writing; I have to write technical reports that must be clearly understandable for non-technical people and they have to stack up in court. A good writer can get away with murder by carefully caveating opinions and choosing their words. Also, it's often more about what's not said than what is. If this burd is a psychiatrist worth her salt, she'll be able to pretty much say what she wants, stating opinion as fact and leaving herself just enough wriggle room to avoid a lawsuit.

It's wrong to judge a book by the cover, I know, but just from looking at her, I wouldn't trust her with a dead match.
Were you bullied at school?
 

Bluelagoona

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Would still be VERY interested in it mate... I am desperate for a second unit for the workshop and yo are not too far for me to come over
Its yours john.
Pm me for an address and arrange a time
 
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