Barrie
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We all need a little lubrication, don't we?
mickvfr800fiw
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There was a very good reason for that noobie . Go on I'll let you explain what that reason was :whi5tl:
If you haven't given the correct answer within 24 hours I will tell you exactly why it happened
mickvfr800fiw
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No you posted the info .. go ahead
noobie
Clueless in most things
I'll add a bit more then, thank you
The seven countries listed in Trump's immigration ban did come from Obama's Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act, which he signed in 2015. That law barred citizens from those seven countries from accessing the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.
Is that okay for you?
A small edit whilst your trawling google:-0)
What's your opinion on Austria's announcement today that over the next 18 months they will be banning the full viel in public places and will force migrants granted the right to stay in Austria, to sign an 'integration contract' and a 'statement of values'. or leave Austria?
Neither of which Trump has proposed
The seven countries listed in Trump's immigration ban did come from Obama's Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act, which he signed in 2015. That law barred citizens from those seven countries from accessing the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa.
Is that okay for you?
A small edit whilst your trawling google:-0)
What's your opinion on Austria's announcement today that over the next 18 months they will be banning the full viel in public places and will force migrants granted the right to stay in Austria, to sign an 'integration contract' and a 'statement of values'. or leave Austria?
Neither of which Trump has proposed
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mickvfr800fiw
a right waste of space
No I already knew that .
You haven't answered my question , so I'll answer it for you as you are just a bigoted google search engine that knows fuck all :wank:
the State Department in 2011 stopped processing Iraq refugee requests for six months after the Federal Bureau of Investigation uncovered evidence that several dozen terrorists from Iraq had infiltrated the United States via the refugee program.
Those are totally separate issues to those currently being debated in this thread .
noobie
Clueless in most things
Silly sausage
the State Department in 2011 stopped processing Iraq refugee requests for six months
Is a ban by any other name, your hate for Trump shows your lack of clarity and objectivity
Those are totally separate issues to those currently being debated in this thread .
Incorrect, the thread was Trumps visit based on his recent suspensions of travel, so the majority of the questioning of whether Trumps visit should be allowed, do keep up chap.
the State Department in 2011 stopped processing Iraq refugee requests for six months
Is a ban by any other name, your hate for Trump shows your lack of clarity and objectivity
Those are totally separate issues to those currently being debated in this thread .
Incorrect, the thread was Trumps visit based on his recent suspensions of travel, so the majority of the questioning of whether Trumps visit should be allowed, do keep up chap.
mickvfr800fiw
a right waste of space
I presume although can't be certain that you're talking about Saudi Arabia Barrie the bigot , who are by far the largest exporter of terrorism yet have been left of the list because of oil you say ... maybe ...
But They are the direct financiers of most islamic terrorism. But not banned.
Responsible for 9/11. But not banned.
mickvfr800fiw
a right waste of space
He banned a specific identified threat you silly sausage no all muslims
I have no problem with him visiting , perhaps ask the question instead of trying to second guess my opinion
As I said 2 different subject . If I can't answer your irellivant post then why post it in the first place
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mickvfr800fiw
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All muslims on the banned list , do keep up chap
noobie
Clueless in most things
Nope, the suspension applies to peoples from those countries, it does not mention religion at all, could you show me where it says muslims will be banned from those countries? but everyone else from those countries can come in?
Most of those countries have some form of multi religions unless you are saying Islam is the only religion in those countries?
If it was a Muslim ban then many more countries than these would have been affected
Most of those countries have some form of multi religions unless you are saying Islam is the only religion in those countries?
If it was a Muslim ban then many more countries than these would have been affected
mickvfr800fiw
a right waste of space
do you think Islamic terrorist are Christian then who in case you hadn't noticed have been virtually wiped out in the ME .
You really aren't keeping up here are you noobie 8rfl@
It does beg the question why Saudi Arabia , Pakistan , UAE , Afghanistan have not been put on this list who do export terrorism and those on the current list have never once comitted a terror attack in America doesn't it
I don't hate trump , but I do despise racists . He is.clearly one of those
You really aren't keeping up here are you noobie 8rfl@
It does beg the question why Saudi Arabia , Pakistan , UAE , Afghanistan have not been put on this list who do export terrorism and those on the current list have never once comitted a terror attack in America doesn't it
I don't hate trump , but I do despise racists . He is.clearly one of those
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noobie
Clueless in most things
And you are deliberately avoiding answering what questions have been asked
the suspension applies to peoples from those countries, it does not mention religion at all, could you show me where it says muslims will be banned from those countries? but everyone else from those countries can come in?
Most of those countries have some form of multi religions unless you are saying Islam is the only religion in those countries?
If it was a Muslim ban then many more countries than these would have been affected
Also What's your opinion on Austria's announcement today that over the next 18 months they will be banning the full viel in public places and will force migrants granted the right to stay in Austria, to sign an 'integration contract' and a 'statement of values'. or leave Austria?
Neither of which Trump has proposed
All of the above questions you bypassed and refused to clarify, I suspect for good reason.
I could agree with you, but then we both would be wrong
the suspension applies to peoples from those countries, it does not mention religion at all, could you show me where it says muslims will be banned from those countries? but everyone else from those countries can come in?
Most of those countries have some form of multi religions unless you are saying Islam is the only religion in those countries?
If it was a Muslim ban then many more countries than these would have been affected
Also What's your opinion on Austria's announcement today that over the next 18 months they will be banning the full viel in public places and will force migrants granted the right to stay in Austria, to sign an 'integration contract' and a 'statement of values'. or leave Austria?
Neither of which Trump has proposed
All of the above questions you bypassed and refused to clarify, I suspect for good reason.
I could agree with you, but then we both would be wrong
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mickvfr800fiw
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The sole ostensible rationale for this ban ? it is necessary to keep out Muslim extremists ? collapses upon the most minimal scrutiny. The countries that have produced and supported the greatest number of anti-U.S. terrorists ? Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Qatar, UAE ? are excluded from the ban list because the tyrannical regimes that run those countries are close U.S. allies. Conversely, the countries that are included ? Syria, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Iran, Sudan, and Yemen ? have produced virtually no such terrorists; as the Cato Institute documented on Friday night: ?Foreigners from those seven nations have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015.? Indeed, as of a 2015 study by the New America research center, deaths caused by terrorism from right-wing nationalists since 9/11 have significantly exceeded those from Muslim extremists."
You are a grumpy old bear these days, fat boy. You going through the manopause or something?
I thought that the power vacuum caused by regime change in Iraq and the support of various rebel groups in Syria led to the rise of Islamic State across both of these countries..Hence the temporary ban on travel...Trump has stated that he plans to destroy Islamic State has he not???
noobie
Clueless in most things
If an admin or mod comes in, even grumpy lumpy pants :-0) I wonder if they would think it is time to move this thread into the house of commons section?
Trump has stated that he plans to destroy Islamic State has he not???
This is the funny thing, Syria has been going on for 6 years and when there has been a ceasefire it has not been Syria themselves calling it, it's been other players all with their own agenda
Then Trump comes along and says, I don't care who I work with and with no preconditions, I want to end this and smash isis.
The people who let this roll on for 6 years with millions dying and millions more moved away from their home country have been grumbled at, Trump says lets all work together and beat this bastards, and everyone turns on him.
It becomes clear after a while that some have such a bias against Trump that they would rather have more of the same than a politician doing what he promised.
Me personally I'd rather wait and see what he does in the long game rather than what he does in the first 10 days
Trump has stated that he plans to destroy Islamic State has he not???
This is the funny thing, Syria has been going on for 6 years and when there has been a ceasefire it has not been Syria themselves calling it, it's been other players all with their own agenda
Then Trump comes along and says, I don't care who I work with and with no preconditions, I want to end this and smash isis.
The people who let this roll on for 6 years with millions dying and millions more moved away from their home country have been grumbled at, Trump says lets all work together and beat this bastards, and everyone turns on him.
It becomes clear after a while that some have such a bias against Trump that they would rather have more of the same than a politician doing what he promised.
Me personally I'd rather wait and see what he does in the long game rather than what he does in the first 10 days
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I don't think anyone with an ounce of decency has a problem with 'smashing ISIS'.
It is the shotgun approach that is being taken that is Scary.
While I really want to agree that he should be given time to show what he can do - after all, he was elected in a democratic vote - I am fearful that the mass alienation that we have seen in the first ten days is the tip of the iceberg.
It is the shotgun approach that is being taken that is Scary.
While I really want to agree that he should be given time to show what he can do - after all, he was elected in a democratic vote - I am fearful that the mass alienation that we have seen in the first ten days is the tip of the iceberg.