NOW It?s Hit the Fan!

[Dark Angel]

Twelve races to go in the most exciting, unpredictable season ever in MotoGP!

The ?curse of Sete? seems to have rebounded and settled on the shoulders of Valentino with a terrible vengeance and, while I suggested before the start of the season that Valencia might be the crucial, deciding race of the championship, yesterday?s result at Le Mans means that the Italian GP at Mugello has now achieved critical status in Rossi?s defence of his World Championship title. He simply must win this race ? that?s all there is to it.

More positively, Yamaha?s new ?Evo? chassis seems to have eliminated the well-publicised "chatter" problems experienced by both Rossi and Edwards, whose performances during the race suggested their long-awaited return to form. Rossi, whose storming, all-out charge to the front of the field was achieved at the expense of Randy de Puniet - and very nearly Danny Pedrosa, too - handed out a riding lesson to Pedrosa before his bike expired, while Edwards fought his way from seventeenth at the end of the first lap to finish sixth - due to Rossi?s ?Tony Elias impersonation? at the start of the race.

Rossi?s domination of Pedrosa and his fury at the failure of his machinery clearly demonstrated that, not only is he able to retain his title, but also that he expects to retain it! :bow:

SO DO I !!!

Come on, Vale!!! :yo:

Roll on, Mugello-o-o-o-o!R#?

 

[Duck n Dive]

Hmmm..... what about that incident at the start where it appeared the chaos was actually caused by Rossi?? He seemed to be running too hot into the corner and then running as wide as del boy and scooping up folks with him as he went.

I'd say there's not a few riders rightly have a "bone to pick" with Vale. Just 'cause he's desperate to get to the front quickly....... methinks that finally that mental preparedness has deserted him?

No doubt that once the race settled down it did start to look like "business as usual".........not so sure about "the lesson" he gave........ unless it was "I made a better rear tyre choice than you"..........

Rossi's bike does seem to be behaving itself better now (apart from actually stopping of course) so hopefully we can look forward to an interesting play off between Pedrosa & Vale in some of the later races. Yesterday wasn't it as the tyre issue left Pedrosa on the back foot.

However, I wouldn't write Rossi off....... with the bike appearing to be sorted (handling anyway) a lot will now depend on his usually strong mental condition..... game on!!!

b0x1

 

[Oldbull]

Well if it was anyone else but Rossi he would have got a two race ban for dangerous riding..(AGAIN) and Mugello wouldnt have mattered... I hope he goes cap in hand to the Kawa garage and appollogizes and to the others for that matter..but I somehow doubt it.. The year before Rossi knocked Sete off, Tamada got a one race ban for a 'harsh' overtake where very little contact was made and both riders stayed on..wtfd34l

but ignoring the rules.. it was a cracking race again (250 and 125 allso :yo
Rossi was determined to show them who's the boss and he would have finished half a lap clear of the rest of the field if his bike hadnt broke..
he is going to have to do it the hard way this time as it looks like lady luck has finally deserted him.. and hes definatley had more than his fair share along the way... but if anyone can turn it around he can and the title is still wide open..

bring it on b0x1


I still think Hayden is going to sneak the championship h1d1ng2

 

[RHINO]

Had Rossi's bike been a HONDA i would have assumed the 'FI' light had come on or the multi pin connector had furred up h1d1ng2

Does anyone actually know yet the reason his bike packed up :dunno:
Not heard a thing yet about WHY it stopped.

 

[Centennial Man]

I'm a bit of a Rossi fan, so forgive the rose tinted spectacles but didn't Rossi get chopped by Pedrosa? Didn't Rossi's front wheel make contact with Pedrosa's rear? Didn't that cause him straighten up and put him into the path of De Puniet?

De Punet was clearly the innocent party and I felt sorry that he'd been put out of his home race. It wasn't as straight forward as just saying Rossi was trying too hard though. Or is that the rose tinted spectacles again?

 

[Gerrard]

The GP

Its funny how we all read a race differently innit?
I think Rossi should have got a bollocking for knocking someone out of the race (yet again), but that will never happen just cos its Rossi, had it been anyone else war would have broken out.
As for Rossi showing Pedrosa the way, thats not how I saw it at all.
Rossi went into the lead while Pedrosa was in third place, Pedrosa then went second and stayed at about half a second behind Rossi for several laps and was holding station without too much to do.
The problem came when Pedrosa's soft, rear tyre failed and caused Pedrosa to slow as opposed to Rossi pulling away. Substantiated by the fact that when the race had finished Pedrosa was asked how he thought the race went and he said, 'I made the wrong choice of tyre', he will learn from that and won't make the same mistake again. He didn?t have the look of a man beaten by Rossi, only of someone who had made a wrong tyre choice which lost him valuable time.
So the championship is still anyones as there is no clear leader, I'm sure Stoner will win a race soon and Melandri and Pedrosa will win again. Nicky Haydon might even win one, although if Rossi only wins 4 of the remaining 12 he will still be in with a chance of the championship.
I suppose if you put in into perspective Rossi is having bad luck, but he has had a charmed life in racing terms over the last 7 years or so, and what goes round comes round as they say. So welcome to the real world Mr Rossi!
I bet Sete and Max if they're watching had a smile, and I'm not wishing Rossi any harm but the jammy buggers also been injury free as well where most other riders suffer some damage or other, which you will say is due to his consummate skill rather than luck.
You must all agree that with several riders in with a shout of the championship it makes better racing than Rossi winning 12 races and few of the others one each.
Good work from the Kwaks and the Zookis well done to them. :bow:

Zippo.

 

[Duck n Dive]

I'm a bit of a Rossi fan, so forgive the rose tinted spectacles but didn't Rossi get chopped by Pedrosa? Didn't Rossi's front wheel make contact with Pedrosa's rear? Didn't that cause him straighten up and put him into the path of De Puniet?

De Punet was clearly the innocent party and I felt sorry that he'd been put out of his home race. It wasn't as straight forward as just saying Rossi was trying too hard though. Or is that the rose tinted spectacles again?

Not the way I thought it played out, looked to me that Rossi make a pigs dinner of it, what I thought I saw was him almost taking out Pedrosa as well as he went wide and wild. I thought he was lucky not to have ruined the race for a lot more folks, I don't think he was that confident and wanted to make early progress.

In the past when Rossi has been confident he's tried to keep it clean at that stage knowing he could make it up later...... don't think he was sure of that this time.

 

[Cyclops]

I sometimes wonder if you lot watched the same race as I did ???????? c7u8



Rossi hit someones back wheel on the corner he had to pick it up and all those on the out side of him got punted off. Shit happens !!!!

Racing incedent no more no less.

After that he got his head down and made that sulky no personality Pedrosa look like he was going in reverse until his bike conked out.

 

[Grey Wolf]

My Opinion

For what it's worth

I sometimes wonder if you lot watched the same race as I did ???????? c7u8



Rossi hit someones back wheel on the corner he had to pick it up and all those on the out side of him got punted off. Shit happens !!!!

Racing incedent no more no less.

After that he got his head down and made that sulky no personality Pedrosa look like he was going in reverse until his bike conked out.

SECONDED :bow: :bow:

 

[Dark Angel]

Hmmm..... what about that incident at the start where it appeared the chaos was actually caused by Rossi??

Well if it was anyone else but Rossi he would have got a two race ban for dangerous riding..(AGAIN)

Didn't Rossi's front wheel make contact with Pedrosa's rear? Didn't that cause him straighten up and put him into the path of De Puniet?

Its funny how we all read a race differently innit?
I think Rossi should have got a bollocking for knocking someone out of the race (yet again), but that will never happen just cos its Rossi, had it been anyone else war would have broken out.

There seems to be some controversy surrounding the melee at the start of the race...

Many seek to blame Rossi but, to be fair, if Pedrosa wasn?t so slow, especially through the corners, then Valentino wouldn?t have accidentally clipped his rear tyre, now would he? In fact,Pedrosa should be deeply grateful for the two lessons he's had from Vale, namely:

1.....how to ride a MotoGP bike fast

2.....how to move over to let a better rider overtake him

Pedrosa must understand that he?s in with the big boys and I, for one, will certainly expect him to give way at Mugello when he realises that a much faster rider is on his way through. If anyone should be disciplined it?s Pedrosa and, perhaps, some of the marshals, who should be directed to show the blue flag much earlier, whenever Vale is "on a fast one? ? which is most of the race, usually! :bow:

I do feel it would be a tad harsh, however, to enforce a two-race ban on ?Danny Boy? for pootling around and cluttering up the track (although I?m sure De Puniet, Edwards, Gibernau ? and maybe even Valentino himself ? would all see that the justification for this was valid). But they should certainly disqualify Pedrosa from third place until he learns to ride the Honda in a half-way decent manner.

Blaming the tyres simply won?t do! sp1ttt3

Obviously, some people may disagree with my perfectly-reasoned argument, but then, as Jack Nicholson stated most concisely:

You can't HAN-dle the truth!! :rant:

(Now, now ? don?t push ? form an orderly queue please, fellas!!) :}

 

[Duck n Dive]

Not worth arguing over..... lets just see how the rest of season pans out.... bl4hbl4h

 

[Cyclops]

There seems to be some controversy surrounding the melee at the start of the race...

Many seek to blame Rossi but, to be fair, if Pedrosa wasn?t so slow, especially through the corners, then Valentino wouldn?t have accidentally clipped his rear tyre, now would he? In fact,Pedrosa should be deeply grateful for the two lessons he's had from Vale, namely:

1.....how to ride a MotoGP bike

2.....how to move over to let a better rider overtake him

Pedrosa must understand that he?s in with the big boys and I, for one, will certainly expect him to give way at Mugello when he realises that a much faster rider is on his way through. If anyone should be disciplined it?s Pedrosa and, perhaps, some of the marshals, who should be directed to show the blue flag much earlier, whenever Vale is "on a fast one? ? which is most of the race, usually! :bow:

I do feel it would be a tad harsh, however, to enforce a two-race ban on ?Danny Boy? for pootling around and cluttering up the track (although I?m sure De Puniet, Edwards, Gibernau ? and maybe even Valentino himself ? would all see that the justification for this was valid). But they should certainly disqualify Pedrosa from third place until he learns to ride the Honda in a half-way decent manner.

Blaming the tyres simply won?t do!

Obviously, some people may disagree with my perfectly-reasoned argument, but then, as Jack Nicholson stated most concisely:

You can't HAN-dle the truth!! :rant:

(Now, now ? don?t push ? form an orderly queue please, fellas!!) :}

Well said that man :bow: :bow:


oy wheatos head

Fook Off man8um b0x2

 

[Duck n Dive]

oy wheatos head

Fook Off man8um b0x2

Nothing like reasoned debate....... fook off yerself :neenaw: d04l1ng

 

[Dark Angel]

Last night, Fat Bloke down the pub was saying they should only be allowed to push wheelbarrows around (in the interests of safety), and that the new 800cc bikes would still be as fast... bl4hbl4h

Later a fight broke out after an argument about lightweight metals and special Kevlar gloves to prevent blisters when handling the 'barrows... b0x1

...I'm glad I left early...

 

[Duck n Dive]

Ah but did he say anything about what size barrows ducati wanted to use?

 

[Para045]

Had Rossi's bike been a HONDA i would have assumed the 'FI' light had come on or the multi pin connector had furred up h1d1ng2

Does anyone actually know yet the reason his bike packed up :dunno:
Not heard a thing yet about WHY it stopped.

I think someone put a Suzuki part on it c7u8

 

[Gerrard]

Ahead

There seems to be some controversy surrounding the melee at the start of the race...

Many seek to blame Rossi but, to be fair, if Pedrosa wasn?t so slow, especially through the corners, then Valentino wouldn?t have accidentally clipped his rear tyre, now would he? In fact,Pedrosa should be deeply grateful for the two lessons he's had from Vale, namely:

1.....how to ride a MotoGP bike fast

2.....how to move over to let a better rider overtake him

Pedrosa must understand that he?s in with the big boys and I, for one, will certainly expect him to give way at Mugello when he realises that a much faster rider is on his way through. If anyone should be disciplined it?s Pedrosa and, perhaps, some of the marshals, who should be directed to show the blue flag much earlier, whenever Vale is "on a fast one? ? which is most of the race, usually! :bow:

I do feel it would be a tad harsh, however, to enforce a two-race ban on ?Danny Boy? for pootling around and cluttering up the track (although I?m sure De Puniet, Edwards, Gibernau ? and maybe even Valentino himself ? would all see that the justification for this was valid). But they should certainly disqualify Pedrosa from third place until he learns to ride the Honda in a half-way decent manner.

Blaming the tyres simply won?t do! sp1ttt3

Obviously, some people may disagree with my perfectly-reasoned argument, but then, as Jack Nicholson stated most concisely:

You can't HAN-dle the truth!! :rant:

(Now, now ? don?t push ? form an orderly queue please, fellas!!) :}

Hi Da...
Eric me old mucker...We have had 5 GP races so far this season and how many times has Rossi finished in front of old slowcoach Pedrosa then ...I can recall only the once, so I think its Pedrosa 4 Rossi 1. b0x2 man8um
PS See you at Mugello or Prato to be exact in just over a weeks time...
Dont suppose there will be much too talk about :-:

Zippo

 

[Dark Angel]

Ah but did he say anything about what size barrows ducati wanted to use?

D&D - this is uncanny!! Apparently it was the Pizza delivery bloke who made the crack about "size"...Didn't go down too well, so I heard! (are you sure you weren't there, D&D?!)

Eric me old mucker...We have had 5 GP races so far this season and how many times has Rossi finished in front of old slowcoach Pedrosa then ...I can recall only the once, so I think its Pedrosa 4 Rossi 1.
PS See you at Mugello or Prato to be exact in just over a weeks time...
Dont suppose there will be much to talk about

Paul M8, stop living in the past!

Pedrosa's a Pud-Puller :tosser:

Rossi Rules!! :bow:

We can have a chat about it next week, if there's time. fl4g71

Safe journey - see ya soon!! :neenaw: :k

 

[Samster]

Has anybody actually watched the replays of the first corner?

Check the motogp website and you can view what went on from many angles including from the back of Pedrosa's machine.

 

[Gerrard]

D&D - this is uncanny!! Apparently it was the Pizza delivery bloke who made the crack about "size"...Didn't go down too well, so I heard! (are you sure you weren't there, D&D?!)


Paul M8, stop living in the past!

Pedrosa's a Pud-Puller :tosser:

Rossi Rules!! :bow:

We can have a chat about it next week, if there's time. fl4g71

Safe journey - see ya soon!! :neenaw: :k

Eric...M8.... Pedrosa might be a Pud Puller but that's still better than being a Shirt Lifter, and there's nothing wrong with Pud Pulling (so I've been told).
Anyway Pedrosa let Rossi go by and what does Rossi do? He stops by the side of the track and then gets a taxi back to the pits, so whats that all about then?
But who has more points in the championship....Hello its all gone quite. man8um
Zippo.