Thank you for elaborating.
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[QUOTE="derek kelly, post:] but not our illegal visitors.
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Who's "illegal"?
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Who's "illegal"?
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Who's "illegal"?
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The thousands arriving at our shores without visa's for a start then there are those on false pasports (with visa's) and those that come on their own "legal" passports who hide serious criminal convictions
Need i continue
If they arrive to claim asylum then they're not "illegal".
That's what they're supposed to do
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then there are those on false pasports (with visa's)
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Thos should be stopped by our highly trained Border Force who's job it is.
If they get in its surely our fault?
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those that come on their own "legal" passports who hide serious criminal convictions
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I'd agree with that!
Problem is that's down to us as well.
For example if you wish to work at a UK airport you have to show at least five years traceable residence and employment history plus a CRB check.
Unless you come from an Eastern European country in which case you don't and your UK CRB check always comes back clear.
Previously we were told that European free movement meant we couldn't stop them.
Now we've "taken back control " why is it still allowed?
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If they aren’t illegal then why travel by dinghy?
There was a picture only last week (too graphic to share on here) of a terrorist holding a severed head, the picture next to it was the same guy seeking asylum in UK.
There was a picture only last week (too graphic to share on here) of a terrorist holding a severed head, the picture next to it was the same guy seeking asylum in UK.
I don't go around saying things that are offensive to people, so I don't see why people should be able to make offensive comments to me.
They shouldn’t but we can’t control other people, we just have to accept that our society doesn’t allow us to cull scum.
Because they have be on English soil and speaking to a Border Force Officer to claim asylum and without papers they can't use legitimate ways to get here.
Do you really believe that nobody who arrives by dinghy is running from horrors that we can’t even imagine?
Yes because they are bypassing several safe Countries on their way.
As a little experiment, stand outside an immigration centre & watch as a bus load turns up, give it time for them to be processed & shown to their nice clean rooms, then watch them emerge with their mobile phones stuck to their ears & are soon met by their drug dealing mates, yes I have witnessed this on many occasions, it has even been caught on the prison cameras, I don’t know if the Police are powerless or not interested.
The crux of the matter is whether or not they are legitimately claiming asylum, or whether they are economic migrants.
If they are economic migrants then are they here to seek an improved standard of living through legitimate and gainful employment, or are they here because they wish to take full advantage of our benefits system and "protected" freedoms.
Correct but why are they risking a dodgy channel crossing when they could apply from anywhere in europe and maybe gain legal entry after all the correct checks, the simple answer is they have something to hide in most cases and know when they land on these shores they will get all the benefits afforded to GB residents with no questions asked
Not at all but when so many are traveling thousands of miles through safe countries the is something wrong and our system is broken
Whatever the reason they first claim asylum.
We can stop it tomorrow by making it possible to claim asylum without being in the UK.
Allow asylum claims to be processed at British Embassies in other countries.
That way potential asylum seekers can apply to the British Embassy in France, Germany, Spain etc.
Then anyone arriving here by other means really is an illegal.
The current system is like making the rule that all car driving tests must be taken in Central London.
Then passing a law banning learner drivers from London.
The politicians won't change anything as it suits them to be able to drum up outrage for their own political gain and to appease party members.
I expect people who come in by air are checked and are on cctv/security camera at point of departure.
It seems simple to me, if they have no documentation, to obtain information from security/airline in order to see who they are and where they originated from. Then maybe send them back to where they should be.
Or is that too simple???
It seems simple to me, if they have no documentation, to obtain information from security/airline in order to see who they are and where they originated from. Then maybe send them back to where they should be.
Or is that too simple???
Nope, that's easy and why no asylum seekers usually arrive by air or ferry these days.
If they do the airline or ferry get fined £2,000 per person plus have to pay for all detention/accommodation costs and repatriation costs.
That's why they arrive on little boats.
I don't doubt that your intentions are anything but genuine and honourable. However, just because something is inoffensive to you, it doesn't mean that someone else won't be offended by it. That pretty much sums up everything that's wrong with society today (and social media has a lot to answer for).