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Why do they do it?

derek kelly

The Deli lama
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Coming home from the gym today, riding within the speed limit, when up ahead I noticed a car waiting to pull out from a side road about 200 yds away the car in front of me turned and as he did so I decided not to accelerate too much just in case the driver waiting to pull out had not seen me, as I got closer it became obvious that he had seen me and was waiting for me to pass, so I started to open her up a bit, when yep you've guessed it doddering old twat in a rover decides he hasn't seen me after all and pulls straight out, sees me panics and hits the brake, I hit my brakes and missed him by about a foot, the old get looked at me and just smiled then carried on as though nowt had happened :bang: :mad:
 

Minkey

Ok it was me
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nearly

Hey derek, your first thoughts are usually right, but either way dont trust em at all. Even if they wave to you they will still pull out on you. At least you missed him, thank God 8l1nd
 

mal 97

Registered User
a near miss then derek, and you wont find a traffic cop in sight cos they are all doing other stuff. glad you got home in one piece mate.
 

derek kelly

The Deli lama
Club Sponsor
mal 97 said:
a near miss then derek, and you wont find a traffic cop in sight cos they are all doing other stuff. glad you got home in one piece mate.


So am I the last time I wasn't so lucky.
 

Jaws

Corporal CockUp
Staff member
Moderator
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I have a new tactic for morons like that..
Turn around and take their number.. straight to nearest police station and report the driver as possibly drunk.
 
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bitontheside

Guest
Jaws said:
I have a new tactic for morons like that..
Turn around and take their number.. straight to nearest police station and report the driver as possibly drunk.



I like it!
 
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steve morris

Guest
mal 97 said:
a near miss then derek, and you wont find a traffic cop in sight cos they are all doing other stuff. glad you got home in one piece mate.

Yup, all the bastid traffic cops where on the A23 coming out of Croydon yesterday afternoon thus causing a 2-3 mile traffic jam thus causing me to get home late etc, beef, moan, etc!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
 

Punchy

Registered User
After reading this article on the BBC news site it looks like there will be even more of us stopped for henous crimes like small plates, race cans and dark visors just to get the % of solved crimes up a bit.

:bang: :bang:

Police are not solving enough crimes despite the government's three-year police reform programme, MPs have said.
The detection rate is still too low in England and Wales, according to a report by the all-party Commons Home Affairs Select Committee.

Only 19% of reported crimes lead to an offender being punished by the courts, but the Home Office aims to raise the figure to 25% by 2008, the MPs noted.

The Home Office said its reforms had led to a 30% reduction in crime.

The committee report said: "Some of the original aspirations expressed when the police reform process was launched have not yet been met - in particular, an improvement in the crime detection rate.

'Must adapt'

"It is still a matter for concern that too few criminals are brought to justice."

The Home Office, in response to the committee's report, said that while the chance of being a victim of crime was the lowest since 1981, more work needed to be done.

"Like all key public services, the police cannot be immune from further change and continuous improvement.

"It must adapt to meet new challenges," a Home Office spokesman said.

He highlighted improvements including "record" staffing of over 140,000 officers, and that there were more than 5,000 community support officers (CSOs) with funding of ?340m to pay for 24,000 by 2007-8.

We recognise that victims deserve to see offenders brought to justice for crimes committed

"A great deal of work is under way to help support forces in improving their performance in detecting crime, including targeted support to specific forces.

"We are also aware that detection rates vary by crime type, for example the murder detection rate for 2003-4 was 92% and violent crime 47%," the Home Office spokesman added.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said it took "all crime seriously" and was confident police were "catching and convicting the right people".

"We recognise that victims deserve to see offenders brought to justice for crimes committed," Acpo President Chris Fox said.

"However, whilst many criminals caught by the police have committed more than one offence, a successful prosecution and conviction will assist in the overall prevention of crime, even where the other offences committed may not be brought to a satisfactory conclusion."

Training 'squeezed'

The committee members also said ministers were wrong to include time officers spend on paperwork in the definition of "front-line policing".

They called for a change to the definition.

MPs also warned that evidence suggested spending on police training had been "squeezed".

"This is likely to prove a false economy," they concluded.

Use of on-the-spot fines had succeeded in freeing up police time to return to the beat, but was only "at the margins" of what could eventually be achieved, the report said.

'Acute need'

"The real potential for saving police time and resources lies in introducing more effective information technology," it went on.

The report noted an "acute need" for a computer system which would allow police, courts and the Crown Prosecution Service to communicate electronically.

"Police officers and staff are entangled in paperwork because they do not have the IT systems they need and want," it stated.

"Redressing this deficiency should be a Home Office priority."

Mr Fox, from Acpo, said that if reduced bureaucracy allowed more police on the streets they needed to be deployed strategically.

"More effective than having simply greater numbers on the streets is having the right people and the right numbers deployed in the right places, where the public want it and where they need it," he said.
 
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kflynn

Guest
Derek's near miss

I work under the assumption that every other "road user" is actively trying to take me out. This policy has keeped me alive for seven years of biking, and touch wood, will let me live long and prosper.

Ye should try driving in Ireland, It's hairy ,to say the least! About 20 yrs back the government had a driving licence amnesty. The queue for the driving test was too long so they just gave anyone who applied a full licence. The net result is that you now have all manner of drooling half wit driving. Add to that the shockingly low standards of road, the rediculously high cost of insurance and you have to be a real enthusiast just to keep going.

Oh and the weather is shite too.... :violin:
 

Nigel Newman

Registered User
Whats the real reason?

Punchy said:
After reading this article on the BBC news site it looks like there will be even more of us stopped for henous crimes like small plates, race cans and dark visors just to get the % of solved crimes up a bit.

:bang: :bang:

Police are not solving enough crimes despite the government's three-year police reform programme, MPs have said.
The detection rate is still too low in England and Wales, according to a report by the all-party Commons Home Affairs Select Committee.

Only 19% of reported crimes lead to an offender being punished by the courts, but the Home Office aims to raise the figure to 25% by 2008, the MPs noted.

The Home Office said its reforms had led to a 30% reduction in crime.

The committee report said: "Some of the original aspirations expressed when the police reform process was launched have not yet been met - in particular, an improvement in the crime detection rate.

'Must adapt'

"It is still a matter for concern that too few criminals are brought to justice."

The Home Office, in response to the committee's report, said that while the chance of being a victim of crime was the lowest since 1981, more work needed to be done.

"Like all key public services, the police cannot be immune from further change and continuous improvement.

"It must adapt to meet new challenges," a Home Office spokesman said.

He highlighted improvements including "record" staffing of over 140,000 officers, and that there were more than 5,000 community support officers (CSOs) with funding of ?340m to pay for 24,000 by 2007-8.

We recognise that victims deserve to see offenders brought to justice for crimes committed

"A great deal of work is under way to help support forces in improving their performance in detecting crime, including targeted support to specific forces.

"We are also aware that detection rates vary by crime type, for example the murder detection rate for 2003-4 was 92% and violent crime 47%," the Home Office spokesman added.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said it took "all crime seriously" and was confident police were "catching and convicting the right people".

"We recognise that victims deserve to see offenders brought to justice for crimes committed," Acpo President Chris Fox said.

"However, whilst many criminals caught by the police have committed more than one offence, a successful prosecution and conviction will assist in the overall prevention of crime, even where the other offences committed may not be brought to a satisfactory conclusion."

Training 'squeezed'

The committee members also said ministers were wrong to include time officers spend on paperwork in the definition of "front-line policing".

They called for a change to the definition.

MPs also warned that evidence suggested spending on police training had been "squeezed".

"This is likely to prove a false economy," they concluded.

Use of on-the-spot fines had succeeded in freeing up police time to return to the beat, but was only "at the margins" of what could eventually be achieved, the report said.

'Acute need'

"The real potential for saving police time and resources lies in introducing more effective information technology," it went on.

The report noted an "acute need" for a computer system which would allow police, courts and the Crown Prosecution Service to communicate electronically.

"Police officers and staff are entangled in paperwork because they do not have the IT systems they need and want," it stated.

"Redressing this deficiency should be a Home Office priority."

Mr Fox, from Acpo, said that if reduced bureaucracy allowed more police on the streets they needed to be deployed strategically.

"More effective than having simply greater numbers on the streets is having the right people and the right numbers deployed in the right places, where the public want it and where they need it," he said.


I sometimes wonder what the real reason is for the lack of police action. It seems to me that since the miners strike, when a lot were making huge amounts of money in overtime, they don't seem interested in "getting their hands dirty". In my county (Suffolk) nearly all the local station numbers are the headquarters in Ipswich, and on a number of occasions, I have got through to an answering machine!
I had a lot of trouble with my daughter's ex-boyfriend resulting in smashed car windows and threatening behaviour in the middle of the night. Every time I called the Police they had excuses as to why they were unable to do anything - and this was from 999 calls!

The reason why recorded crime is down? - You can't get through to bloody record it!

Rant over - cheers for reading it!
 
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