the norm for all uk police forces in the future.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997908/Police-FINE-mother-running-petrol.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4997908/Police-FINE-mother-running-petrol.html
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Serves her right, think of the carnage that could have followed.
Nothing new here - 'if' she was daft enough to say she was low on fuel having just passed a service station then no sympathy whatsoever.
Having said that, I was coming home from Sevenoaks in the dark years ago with not much fuel in the car, intending to fill up on the way home, and, being totally confident of the way home I accidentally ended up on the motorway (yes, I know) and was absolutely running on fumes for about twenty miles before getting ripped off at a motorway service station for £5 of fuel.
Having said that, I was coming home from Sevenoaks in the dark years ago with not much fuel in the car, intending to fill up on the way home, and, being totally confident of the way home I accidentally ended up on the motorway (yes, I know) and was absolutely running on fumes for about twenty miles before getting ripped off at a motorway service station for £5 of fuel.
It has always been an offence. It has always been the norm
The law has always been clear that you are permitted to stop on the shoulder in an emergency.
She had a fuel gauge that told her how much fuel she had, she will have passed several junctions where she could have left the motorway or probably passed a services where she could get a splash and dash, so the offence is and always has been absolute.
The problem is that we no longer have the number of motorway patrols that we used to so enforcement is sparodic and minimal at best in most areas.
The law has always been clear that you are permitted to stop on the shoulder in an emergency.
She had a fuel gauge that told her how much fuel she had, she will have passed several junctions where she could have left the motorway or probably passed a services where she could get a splash and dash, so the offence is and always has been absolute.
The problem is that we no longer have the number of motorway patrols that we used to so enforcement is sparodic and minimal at best in most areas.
I had a brand new Mercedes company car...the first time I used for a journey of any length I was driving home from Cambridge, the fuel warning came on saying there was fifty miles range left when I was no more than thirty miles home.....about twenty miles later I reached .the QE2 Bridge at the Dartford Crossing which is pretty steep and the blinking thing started spluttering on the way up...absolutely pooped myself, fortunately I got to the top and it picked up again in the way down.
Yes the above has always been an offence also I think not having your windscreen washer bottle with enough in is as well.
On another note being keen on real ale I frequently take my pushbike to the pub, wasn’t until I had a conversation with an old diving mate of mine (retired police officer) I learnt that you could be done for being over the limit whilst riding said bike and lose your driving licence as a result.
You live & learn heh
On another note being keen on real ale I frequently take my pushbike to the pub, wasn’t until I had a conversation with an old diving mate of mine (retired police officer) I learnt that you could be done for being over the limit whilst riding said bike and lose your driving licence as a result.
You live & learn heh
There are loads of offences that the rider can be done for.
The easist and quickest (when I served anyway) was dangerous or careless cycling, and if drunk (and is one of the few offences that a copper can give evidence of opinion) then the rider normally got arrested and thrown in the cells for the night with a day in court to look forward to.
Most cyclists know that they cannot be forced to provide a specimen of breath, but many do not realise the options that are available to the cops, and if you are from my generation, then section 15 of the ways and means act came in very handy (which in laymans terms means making it up as you go) but the above action usually worked.
You cannot get points on your licence simply because a drivers licence is not required to ride a bicycle, and a cycling offence is not transferable over to a driving offence.
I think you will find that there is a specific act under the Metropolitan Police Act 1829 and 1839 that covers this.
It is a unique act available only to Met officers as you may have gathered from the title
Interesting! But it doesn’t state at what level the rider is deemed to be “under the influence” if permission is granted for a specimen of breath could I assume that would be at the present drink drive levels?
I don’t cycle in a dangerous and careless way, always abide by the Highway Code, and my bike is in good roadworthy condition with lights bell etc. Also don’t cycle when I’m pissed but would be probably over the limit for a breath test Sooo if I keep my nose clean so to speak I should be OK? Good to know that the licence isn’t affected.
I suppose the excuse “I had to cycle home m’lord as I was to pissed to walk” wouldn’t cut the mustard much then
A year or two back a chap in London was successfully prosecuted for 'furious riding', an obscure bit of legislation going back over a hundred years. If I remember correctly he ran into a pedestrian and killed her.
You are correct. The civil case is still ongoing
As far as the limit is concerned, the drivers limit is only used as a guide (in the event that a breath test can be administered). The coppers opinion of being drunk has more weight, so if you have had a few, don't act and rife like a complete tosser, then there shoud not be a problem.
If however, a rider gets that p1ssed, then not only are they going to be arrested for being drunk and incapable, it is also for their protection and the protection of the public as the above case demonstrates (although in fairness, no booze was involved as far as we are led to believe).