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Switzerland, Austria, Germany.

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2300 miles later and we're home. Brilliant time.
Switzerland.
You'll need a Vignette to ride the roads here. Costs 40shillings a bike and lasts all year. Need to have the sticker in plain view on your screen. Great when you're only there for a week or so. Stopped in a superb campsite in Lauterbrunnen a few miles north of Interlaken and 580 miles from Dunkerque. Did the Shilthorn and Jungfraujoch (pop the names in your search engine) while we were there. Cost ?220 for the pair of us but WELL worth it. The roads are brilliant. We did the Susten (Bit of a wake-up here. At the highest point a biker had come to grief. Bike trashed against the armco and he's in the middle of the road with an oxygen mask on. Hope he's OK! His buds weren't too sure), Furka and Grimsel passes and they are superb. Everything from weaving corners to 180 degree switch backs right out of the Italian Job. But beware, there are lots of speed restrictions and no-overtaking stretches and the Swiss Dibble take no prisoners. The locals also make a habit of phoning them and bubbling you up if you're breaking the law.
Austria.
330 miles later we're in Zell am See. You'll need a Vignette to ride the Motorways here. We did a sneaky and didn't bother. Got away with it but there you go. No idea what it costs but they are available to buy in all the service stations. We did the Gerlos Pass, Grossgockner Hochalpine Strasse and the N108 from Lienz to Mittersill. As one German told me the Austrians can make money from shit. How true. There are toll points (look for the word Maut and you'll know you've got to pay) all over the place. The Gerlos cost a few Euros, the Grossglockner 17 Euros each (28 in a car) but lasts all day so you can go over it as many times as you want but the the last vehicles through is at 21:45hrs! and the tunnel on the N108 8 Euros each. Pretty much all the Alpine passes in Austria cost something. However the roads are brilliant and deserving of a right good thrashing, especially the Grossglockner which has special Biker Points along it with free safes for your kit and Bikers Only parking areas. Fantastic. Everything from smooth, winding bends to 180 degree switch-backs. Couldn't wish for more.
Germany.
450 miles later and we're camped on the Mosel. Not much to say really. The roads are nice but a real come-down after the exhilarating alpine passes. Still we did the Rhine and Mosel Wine Strasse.

Some of the Alpine passes have minimal corner protection and having an off means a lot of fresh air before hitting ground again. Transiting the coutries can be a pain because of all the speed restrictions and no-overtaking stretches even on straight main roads. The Dibble cruise the motorways in 911 Porches so don't mess them about. The Swiss and Austrians love their tunnels. Some are a few miles long and you end up travelling through thick exhaust fumes and not all of them are free either.
If you're going it might be worth having a look at www.AlpineRoads.com a great site that goes over lots of stuff.
 

yoshibird

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Looks like you guys had good time will speak to you soon i hope you have got your green wellies ready:eek:
 
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We sure did!

Had agreat time Chris. See you in a couple of weeks. Hope to be at yours around midday for the ride to the 'fest.
 

Lebowski

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Good to hear you both had a good time Stuart. :yo:

We're off to Austria and Italy in 5 weeks and fours days (not that I'm counting...) Even going to have a crack at that there camping.

How busy was the Grossglockner? Any idea if there is a quieter time of the day to do it?
 
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Yo matey!

Good to hear from you. The Grosseglockner is pretty much all go from opening to closing time but it's still great fun. If you're camping we stopped at a site on the Lake by Zell am See at the north end called Seecamp www.seecamp.at not bad prices, good facilities but the ground is tent-peg bending stuff. Not too impressed with that but a 20min walk around the Lake to Zell and it boasts an excellent restaurant. While you're there the Krimml Waterfalls are a good ride out. Take some walking gear to change into cos as you go by the Waterworld on the main road (you can see the falls) there's a Biker Point around the corner with free safes for your kit! Ride the 'glockner to Lienz, turn around and come back over again. Wont get better roads and you'll get your moneys worth. Stop off at the points recomended on the web site in the first thread, you wont be disapointed there either. Which way you riding down there?
 

Lebowski

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Now that is what I call a campsite with a view! :yo:

Unfortunately(?) we're staying with some friends whilst we're in Austria. Although they're not far from the Grossglockner, so we will be doing it, thanks for the tips. :bow:

The route (at the moment!) is to cross France and stop in the north of the Black Forest, camp there for the night then ride the B500 down and then work our way towards Austria. We'll stop somewhere near to the Neuschwanstein castle and then get to Uttendorf the next day.

Having looked around that website you posted I think we'll try to fit in a few sights on our way there.

After Austria it's down to the Italian Dolomites.

So if you know of any campsites in any of those areas?

By the way, top marks to Sharon, that's a big ride in your first year! :bow:
 
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Sorry,

Italies not my thing yet Bike wise. Route sounds great and as for the view, you'll be riding it on the Grossglockner. Have a cracker:yo:
 

Jaws

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Sounds like you had a great time ! :p

I tend to avoid toll roads like the plague.. and have never once paid the vignette as it is only needed if you are going on motorways.. If like me you find the ordinary roads you do not need one .. In fact the one time I did use the motorway I was coming home in a hurry and still never bothered ! ( But you get caught and it will cost your the equivelent of ?60 ( thats Euros not quids ) plus the price of the vignette on top ! ( which is ?17.00 near as dammit )
 
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