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Smoked stator - DAMMIT!!!!!!

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Warchild

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Well, it was a good run while it lasted.... about 3 1/2 years, and 60,000 miles, but sadly, it appears that my stator is now toast.
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Background:

I noticed that my Datel voltmeter has been acting ape-shit since for a good couple weeks now... the voltage would be all over the place, changing every 2-3 seconds... a typical sequence would be: start the bike, Datel goes to 12.6v, then 14.1v, then jump to 12.3v, then 13.5v, 12.2v, 13.8v, 12.7v, 14.3v, 12.5v.... repeat, repeat, repeat. The voltage jumping around had no rhyme or reason, no discernable pattern. It occurred at all RPM speeds, from idle up to 6000RPM and beyond.

Did all the usual tricks, check all connections, even replaced the R/R with a new one that I had bought last year as a precaution. No change in the bizarre voltage readings.

The battery itself appears healthy enough... seems to be able to keep a good charge. Even after several weeks of inactivity sitting in a cold PacNorWest winter garage, I'll slap the Fluke multimeter leads on it, and it still reads a healthy 13+ volts. Bike starts up just fine. But obviously something is dicked up. I confirmed the Datel's readings with the Fluke, and the scattered voltage readings were identical to the Datel.

Now, when all this first starting happening, I could get the Datel to stabilize at around 13.9v - 14.1v, but only if both headlights were turned off (my low-beam is a HID unit that I can switch off). Obviously, this eliminated any night-time riding. After a couple weeks, even this wasn't enough to stop the wild voltage readings. Yeah, I was pretty much thinking that I was essentially fucked at this point.

Testing:

Sooooooo...... I break down and start the heavy-duty trouble-shooting using ElectrexUSA's excellent 4-page Fault-Find flowchart: Electrex Fault Finding Flowchart I slap the Battery Tender on the battery for 24 hours, and started all these test with a good 13.5v showing on the battery before starting the bike up and going through the fault-finding diagrams.

At first all the preliminary tests check out good, but sure enough, when I get to the point where I am measuring AC voltage between all three legs of the stator (bottom of pg 2 from above link), the tests fail. In this test, a good stator will have all three legs outputting the same voltage, and this voltage needs to be over 50 volts AC. These measurements are taken at 5000 RPM.

The readings confirmed the worst: none of the three legs measured the same voltage, and even if they did, the highest of the lot was a paltry 18 volts AC.

Fuuuuuuuuck.
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All this pretty well points to a smoked stator. I am inclined to go with the ElectrexUSA stator for the XX, as it looks to be a pretty high-quality unit: http://www.electrexusa.com/electrex_stators.html

If anyone has any experience with ElectrexUSA stators, I'd sure like to hear it. If anyone can think of anything I've missed, I'm all ears.
 

Bob Pinder

Registered User
I think they have a pretty good name over here.
I've not used them but I know folks who have with good results.
Suppose this is just another excuse to ride the FJ more:dunno:
 

ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
stupid question realy

But what the fuck is a stator, !!:dunno:

and a ''smoked stator'' is that owt like a smoked haddock!!:dunno:
 
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dpbxx

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Stator

Part of the alternator, the bit with all the wound copper wires, the bit that eventually shakes itself to death.
Although these days they are almost indestructable. My old Norton Dominator used to eat them for breakfast.

:beer:
 
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Warchild

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Ian, here's what a stator looks like (this is off the Electrex web site above):

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ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
IT'S

A THINGAMYBOB :bow: gotcha, pardon my stupidity, as Lumpy is bound to tell you its a regular thing with me,:rolleyes:
 
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reefer

Guest
just over an hour gone and no bumpy yetg0551p :eek:

man8um man8um
 

ianrobbo1

good looking AND modest
Originally posted by reefer
just over an hour gone and no bumpy yetg0551p :eek:

man8um man8um

I should think he is getting some ammunition ready for Grampi, after all he took a bloody good verbal kicking today, easily beaten on the smart ''and funny'' comeback by the ''old northerner'',

bring it on monday, if not sooner,:bow:
 

1200Pete

Registered User
Warchild, just before you go and buy one of these it is well worth having a look at the stator drum first. I have seen them with a large build up of black sludgy type stuff on them blocking the charging feild. Could save you a few bob ($)

How much do Electrex want for one ?
 
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Amsterdam

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Originally posted by Warchild
Well, it was a good run while it lasted.... about 3 1/2 years

Well it isn't surprising m8, last time we spoke you were blasting out enough lumens to defrost Alaska :lol:

Is that replacement stator uprated or standard output (590W)?


Amsters
 

1200Pete

Registered User
Not bad, that is about ?150 cheeper than Honda, I shall make a note :beer:
 
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frenchuk

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590W upgraded to 575W? Wouldn't that be downgraded?
Also, remember it's ?94 leaving america, then you've got delivery, import duty, clearing duty, everything-and-the-rest duty, so that makes it ?347,821.35 then!
 
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Warchild

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590W upgraded to 575W? Wouldn't that be downgraded?
The Blackbird's factory alternator is rated at 460-watts @ 5000 RPM, nominal. The techs at Electrex claim their aftermarket stators will average ~25% greater output... so roughly 575-watts, thereabouts.
Also, remember it's ?94 leaving america, then you've got delivery, import duty, clearing duty, everything-and-the-rest duty, so that makes it ?347,821.35 then!
Or.... you could just buy the stator there in England, and pay a mere ?59.00 excluding VAT & shipping: http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/
 
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frenchuk

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Originally posted by Warchild
Or.... you could just buy the stator there in England, and pay a mere ?59.00 excluding VAT & shipping: http://www.electrexworld.co.uk/

Which makes a lot of sense - although they have a bug on their uk site, I'm sure it'll be fixed soon! am also interested in uprated rotor since I run few extra electrics as well...
 
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Warchild

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HID is something I wouldn't rule out when I land on few bobs...
I just slapped a pair of Philips HID Driving lamps on my FJR over the winter....

Philips HID Driving Lamps install

These fookers are the Night Sun; they definitely make my PIAA 910 lamps on my Blackbird look light a couple of small flashllights in comparison.... they most definitely turn night into day:

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